Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5258] [Kompas Productions]

[CassidyPRO]

Idk, it really wouldn't take that much effort to change it. Just certain dialog would need to be fixed, most if not all of the artwork is fine the way it is. Seeing as how DC has already promised this and a good portion of his patron base is expecting it, I doubt he'll forget about it, especially if he decides to make another game after SS. In fact, if there was a good enough incest patch out for it by the time of completion, they could just integrate that and be done with it. Idk, maybe you guys are right and he'll just drop the ball on us like that, but I really doubt it.

Its about management and dev processes.. If you intend to do something like that, there is NO REASON to do the new content in a way that will make it much more difficult to restore the old stuff.

Dc is experienced in that field.. If he is not doing it, its because he wont restore it.

 

[DrFog]

If you intend to do something like that, there is NO REASON to do the new content in a way that will make it much more difficult to restore the old stuff.

He redid the family scenes to have them make more sense while the game is in development. Yeah, it's a questionable move for sure, but even so, it really wouldn't be that hard to change back to true incest. The story lines may have changed some, but not so drastically that it would be that hard to restore.

 

[j4yj4m]

What he said. Pretty sure DC won't put back thr incest in the game. Our only hope are fan patches for that

I think both are possible. If fans can patch it back in within a reasonable amount of time, DC and his team can certainly do it as well in even less time - of course only once the game is fully done and removed from patreon. Yes, a lot will depend on the reworks but at least in for example Diane's case the amount of work that's needed to properly adapt her story is small. A few new dialogs/poses and that's it.

Its about management and dev processes.. If you intend to do something like that, there is NO REASON to do the new content in a way that will make it much more difficult to restore the old stuff.

Dc is experienced in that field.. If he is not doing it, its because he wont restore it.

I'm not sure about that. Right now it's clear that SS will stay on patreon and that the whole situation won't change for a long time. He can't and won't release a crippled game which doesn't make sense, so changes to adapt the new story had to happen. He simply hasn't got a choice but to move on right now. But that doesn't mean that dialogs and a few items can't be adapted later on. I mean, he's spending a way bigger amount of time on reworks right now and he was always willing to change things if he wanted it. So I don't see why it's "impossible" for him and his team to spend ~4 to 6 weeks at some point to create the "final version".

 

[CptRexx]

lol and Do you believe in that?

The sctructure of the dialogue is COMPLETLY different for it. Things that could work for the non incest thing but would make it easier for them to "fix" the game adding back the incest later are NOT being implemented lol.

DC wont bother with it. dont fool yourselfs. XD

You should watch his streams and ask questions about if the game will ever get incest content. Btw, stop making wrong accusations.

 

[Genji]

You should watch his streams and ask questions about if the game will ever get incest content. Btw, stop making wrong accusations.

indeed,you can just ask him

 

[Dogeek]

Just chiming in for a quick note : the characters are being redrawn, yes, it takes time yes, but there's some very specific reasons as to why we're doing that.

First, art quality. We want to keep the game's overall graphics standards as high as possible.

Second, game size. Don't forget that we're building a game that can be installed on mobile devices. As it stands, the game is about 800 MB heavy. Not too much by PC standards, but huge for a mobile game. And a large part of the community is playing on mobile devices.

Third, future update speed. Redrawing and remaking character poses not only reduces the overall file size, but also increases flexibility. DC no longer has to make full body poses, just arms or facial expressions. That way, future updates won't require some poses, if they can be made with existing art. The downside is that it's an investment of time. Takes longer now for future benefits.

 

[Genji]

Just chiming in for a quick note : the characters are being redrawn, yes, it takes time yes, but there's some very specific reasons as to why we're doing that.

First, art quality. We want to keep the game's overall graphics standards as high as possible.

Second, game size. Don't forget that we're building a game that can be installed on mobile devices. As it stands, the game is about 800 MB heavy. Not too much by PC standards, but huge for a mobile game. And a large part of the community is playing on mobile devices.

Third, future update speed. Redrawing and remaking character poses not only reduces the overall file size, but also increases flexibility. DC no longer has to make full body poses, just arms or facial expressions. That way, future updates won't require some poses, if they can be made with existing art. The downside is that it's an investment of time. Takes longer now for future benefits.

it is really true DC into pregnant stuff?

 

[Bruce_Wayne18]

Just chiming in for a quick note : the characters are being redrawn, yes, it takes time yes, but there's some very specific reasons as to why we're doing that.

First, art quality. We want to keep the game's overall graphics standards as high as possible.

Second, game size. Don't forget that we're building a game that can be installed on mobile devices. As it stands, the game is about 800 MB heavy. Not too much by PC standards, but huge for a mobile game. And a large part of the community is playing on mobile devices.

Third, future update speed. Redrawing and remaking character poses not only reduces the overall file size, but also increases flexibility. DC no longer has to make full body poses, just arms or facial expressions. That way, future updates won't require some poses, if they can be made with existing art. The downside is that it's an investment of time. Takes longer now for future benefits.

Is incest coming back to the game? I think that's what most people are worried about. I know DC said yes because I asked him about it on stream, but hearing it from you would put a lot of people's minds at ease, including my own

 

[Trapezio]

Just chiming in for a quick note : the characters are being redrawn, yes, it takes time yes, but there's some very specific reasons as to why we're doing that.

First, art quality. We want to keep the game's overall graphics standards as high as possible.

Second, game size. Don't forget that we're building a game that can be installed on mobile devices. As it stands, the game is about 800 MB heavy. Not too much by PC standards, but huge for a mobile game. And a large part of the community is playing on mobile devices.

Third, future update speed. Redrawing and remaking character poses not only reduces the overall file size, but also increases flexibility. DC no longer has to make full body poses, just arms or facial expressions. That way, future updates won't require some poses, if they can be made with existing art. The downside is that it's an investment of time. Takes longer now for future benefits.

Fine, but I think you should realize that Time is your worst enemy.

No one REALLY needs Summertime Saga: we will move on to something else because life goes on, you know. Meanwhile, there are TONS of lewd/porn games we can download HERE and play.

To put it bluntly, dude,

"So long, and thanks for all the fish": it was fun while it lasted.

 

[Glorious Cat]

And a large part of the community is playing on mobile devices.

Really ?
Out of curiosity, can you share some numbers (if you have some) ? Like x% on windows, x% mac, x% mobile etc.. ?
And those numbers came from the download count ?

 

[Hero1]

No one REALLY needs Summertime Saga: we will move on to something else because life goes on, you know. Meanwhile, there are TONS of lewd/porn games we can download HERE and play.

While it is true that no one needs Summertime Saga, everybody moaning about the speed of the development time clearly WANTS it. Otherwise they wouldn't complain about the time between updates.
Somebody that doesn't care or has moved on is not giving input on how to improve what is being done wrong (in their minds). What would be the point?

 

[Trapezio]

While it is true that no one needs Summertime Saga, everybody moaning about the speed of the development time clearly WANTS it. Otherwise they wouldn't complain about the time between updates.
Somebody that doesn't care or has moved on is not giving input on how to improve what is being done wrong (in their minds). What would be the point?

This is just idle chatting. People come and go, then they get sick and move on to something else.

 

[j4yj4m]

This is just idle chatting. People come and go, then they get sick and move on to something else.

That's pretty normal though and happens to every game. The advantage of SS in that regard is simply its top 5 spot on patreon, no. 1 spot for NSFW games on patreon and the fact that most people who play NSFW games have heard of it. If somebody is looking for any NSFW game they'll find SS at some point, which is quite a difference compared to most smaller games. So it's not like the game is solely dependend on one small userbase - people come and go while others will return at some point.

 

[Hero1]

People come and go, then they get sick and move on to something else.

And if the amount of pages in this thread is any indication, they'll eventually come back.

 

[TwilightPinkiePie]

Quick question! Who’s storyline is DC focusing on for the next update? Thanks!

 

[j4yj4m]

Quick question! Who’s storyline is DC focusing on for the next update? Thanks!

Right now it's Jenny for 0.18. After that Eve for 0.19 and the main story for 0.20.

 

[PatreonTed]

Fine, but I think you should realize that Time is your worst enemy.

No one REALLY needs Summertime Saga: we will move on to something else because life goes on, you know. Meanwhile, there are TONS of lewd/porn games we can download HERE and play.

To put it bluntly, dude,

"So long, and thanks for all the fish": it was fun while it lasted.

Orrrrr, you could enjoy all those other games AND enjoy the SS update when it comes out. I've found so many other games I enjoy to fill the time.

 

[DrFog]

Orrrrr, you could enjoy all those other games AND enjoy the SS update when it comes out. I've found so many other games I enjoy to fill the time.

Wait, what? You mean to tell me that there are other games here besides Summertime Saga? That's crazy.

 

[Bruce_Wayne18]

Orrrrr, you could enjoy all those other games AND enjoy the SS update when it comes out. I've found so many other games I enjoy to fill the time.

Haha agreed! If not for the huge amount of time between updates for SS I may have never discovered other games such as Milfy City, The Twist, Dark Neighbourhood and others!

 

[j4yj4m]

DC just said that he's thinking about adding a ~1 month 0.18.5 update once Jenny is done to move MC's art to the rig system and to make general improvements.