Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5258] [Kompas Productions]

[Omnikuken]

What happens when the Rhonda update is finished before the tech update?

If you are hinting that it could be released before tech update - highly unlikely.

The art appears it could have been done for a bit, already (or at least a good chunk of it). I would suspect that not a single bit of the coding or posing has even started on it - because those folks are working on the tech update.

The posing would need to be done in 4:3 ratio for the current version if it were even considered what you're hinting at. Then that posing would need to be updated to 16:9 for the tech update - making extra work for the staff and more expenses for DC to pay. Similar with the coding - it would need written to be compatible with the current code AND the code after the update or first compatible for current code and then revised for the code after. Again more work and more cost.

Or how to ask for another year+ of delay without asking for another year+ of delay

 

[McSlut]

What happens when the Rhonda update is finished before the tech update?

he could have stayed at the 4:3 format and put out rhonda and annie updates a year ago by now while hiring additional coders and posers who could have worked on the tech update in the background. just draw the backgrounds for the new updates in 16:9 and cut of the sides so it can be used in 4:3. sure he would have to swap those backgrounds eventually for the 16:9 versions eventually and it would result in some additional work but that way nobody would have cared much if the tech update would have taken 3 or 5 more years.

 

[itsyeboii]

he could have stayed at the 4:3 format and put out rhonda and annie updates a year ago by now while hiring additional coders and posers who could have worked on the tech update in the background. just draw the backgrounds for the new updates in 16:9 and cut of the sides so it can be used in 4:3. sure he would have to swap those backgrounds eventually for the 16:9 versions eventually and it would result in some additional work but that way nobody would have cared much if the tech update would have taken 3 or 5 more years.

I kinda get your logic but that's all way easier said than done.

 

[Omnikuken]

I kinda get your logic but that's all way easier said than done.

What logic ? Dude is saying to do the same work 2x with 50 more devs for what amounts to basically nothing, aside saving him some time he doesn't know won't happen.

 

[itsyeboii]

What logic ? Dude is saying to do the same work 2x with 50 more devs for what amounts to basically nothing, aside saving him some time he doesn't know won't happen.

His logic = DC and his team works on the updates as usual, as well as doing art for the tech-update on the side, while a dedicated team does everything for the tech-update. Pretty much developing both ends and merging together at some point.

I'm not saying the logic is impeccable, it's unrealistic as hell, hence why I said that it's way easier said than done, starting with finding good enough full time coders in the first place. I'll take what we have now instead of that hypothetical shitshow lol

 

[ynyn]

Is the android version patched? Cuz the game won't start via Joiplay (as is the case for almost every RenPy game on Joiplay ).

 

[Omnikuken]

His logic = DC and his team works on the updates as usual, as well as doing art for the tech-update on the side, while a dedicated team does everything for the tech-update. Pretty much developing both ends and merging together at some point.

I'm not saying the logic is impeccable, it's unrealistic as hell, hence why I said that it's way easier said than done, starting with finding good enough full time coders in the first place. I'll take what we have now instead of that hypothetical shitshow lol

Bolded would never happen though. That's the main reason for the tech build : dump all that ~6 years of trash coding by 4+ dudes and redo it once. They wouldn't merge the 2 of them together, otherwise they'd already do it and the tech build would be out last year

 

[McSlut]

Pretty much developing both ends and merging together at some point.

that's exactly what i meant. i think the something unlimited devs are doing something similiar. i don't know my idea might be bad but i don't know if waiting 2 years and who knows how much longer for a this stupid tech update is much better

 

[Count Morado]

Is the android version patched? Cuz the game won't start via Joiplay (as is the case for almost every RenPy game on Joiplay ).

No. But you can go check the couple of Mod threads listed in the OP to see if they have a solution.

 

[josh963]

Debbie’s route should be redone!! Sadly, I think it Will take at least 3 years until that happen

 

[Count Morado]

Debbie’s route should be redone!! Sadly, I think it Will take at least 3 years until that happen

You think her route should be redone so that she and the MC never connect? So that she is a serial killer? So that she is revealed to be the real criminal mastermind behind the MC's father's death? Your post is VERY vague.

But, you are quite correct about at least 3 years ... it's more likely to be 5 or more years, if ever ("if ever" being the highest probability). She isn't winning any polls any time soon.

Now, If you mean her route should be officially redone in such a way to violate Patreon's policies - yeah, that won't happen until DC no longer promotes it as part of his portfolio on Patreon.

 

[Joop501]

There are other games! Life is more fun when you embrace things josh963.

 

[Omnikuken]

that's exactly what i meant. i think the something unlimited devs are doing something similiar. i don't know my idea might be bad but i don't know if waiting 2 years and who knows how much longer for a this stupid tech update is much better

Lolnope, SU's dev can barely do what he says and what he puts in the changelog. He's not gonna remake the game anytime soon .....

 

[ynyn]

No. But you can go check the couple of Mod threads listed in the OP to see if they have a solution.

Thanks! Already did and got it to work!

 

[mastodonte69]

Did DC say something about the update on the last stream?

 

[itsyeboii]

Bolded would never happen though. That's the main reason for the tech build : dump all that ~6 years of trash coding by 4+ dudes and redo it once. They wouldn't merge the 2 of them together, otherwise they'd already do it and the tech build would be out last year

Yeah pretty much.

that's exactly what i meant. i think the something unlimited devs are doing something similiar. i don't know my idea might be bad but i don't know if waiting 2 years and who knows how much longer for a this stupid tech update is much better

I mean, they seem to be struggling enough as it is to get a flat tech-update out, imagine them trying to merge two versions together, I'd rather chew on some pre-tech updates while waiting way too long for a tech-update than to witness that dumpster fire.

You also have to take into consideration how complicated things get. Like I said, you have to find a bunch of good, willing, full time coders in the first place, guide them through the process of unraveling the spaghetti code and then guide them in how to rebuild the code. It's not like you can throw a bunch of nerds at the code and say "make a better game".

DC and probably some of his main technical devs have to oversee all that happening while still making regular updates which also take time and effort, simultaneously piling onto the content that needs to be converted to the modern build. All of this takes good planning, communication and honestly, a bigger and better team than Kompas Productions is right now. I'll take what we have now thank you very much

Debbie’s route should be redone!! Sadly, I think it Will take at least 3 years until that happen

Probably one of the only things I'm interested in any more when it comes to SS. Hope we'll get it anytime soon but I doubt it.

 

[itsyeboii]

You think her route should be redone so that she and the MC never connect? So that she is a serial killer? So that she is revealed to be the real criminal mastermind behind the MC's father's death? Your post is VERY vague.

But, you are quite correct about at least 3 years ... it's more likely to be 5 or more years, if ever ("if ever" being the highest probability). She isn't winning any polls any time soon.

Now, If you mean her route should be officially redone in such a way to violate Patreon's policies - yeah, that won't happen until DC no longer promotes it as part of his portfolio on Patreon.

Redone as in remade, come on bro lmao

I wonder why you think "if ever" is the highest probability, like, she might never get an update because DC doesn't want to risk Patreon raising a stink over it? That would be so lame... I don't see how Debbie's update would be any different from Jennie's or Diane's. I think no one in their right mind expects DC to add in incest but just give Debbie the Jenny treatment and unofficial patches will do the rest.

 

[Count Morado]

Redone as in remade, come on bro lmao

I wonder why you think "if ever" is the highest probability, like, she might never get an update because DC doesn't want to risk Patreon raising a stink over it? That would be so lame... I don't see how Debbie's update would be any different from Jennie's or Diane's. I think no one in their right mind expects DC to add in incest but just give Debbie the Jenny treatment and unofficial patches will do the rest.

I won't make that assumption about what the guy meant because we all know there is a significant number of people who drop messages here who want DC to make incest official, again.

You wonder why I think the way I do? Come on. It's pretty simple if you take a moment.

She could get an update, sure. But she is either going to have to win a poll first or DC wanting to actually revisit her story. He's given little to no indication on the latter and she's not done well with the former. Her part was nearly complete before the v0.20.9 update that finished the main story line:

If her story line finished up in v0.20.9 - then the likelihood is even less for her stuff to get a redo. There is a small possibility and I don't say "never"... but that's why I say "if ever" as the highest probability because he's got a shitton of other pans in the fire that he has ahead of considering to redo her story.

 

[itsyeboii]

I won't make that assumption about what the guy meant because we all know there is a significant number of people who drop messages here who want DC to make incest official, again.

Honestly, I can't recall anyone ever saying such a thing, I'm sure there have been some people but they're far from significant.

Redone and remade are pretty much the same thing in the context of game development. You can even argue the same when someone says remade, because you don't know what way they want it remade. Weird thing to get pedantic about, that's why I said come on. (You say redo yourself btw)

You wonder why I think the way I do? Come on. It's pretty simple if you take a moment.

I asked that as a genuine question, no reason to be petty and do a little uno-reverse on me lol

She could get an update, sure. But she is either going to have to win a poll first or DC wanting to actually revisit her story. He's given little to no indication on the latter and she's not done well with the former. Her part was nearly complete before the v0.20.9 update that finished the main story line:
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If her story line finished up in v0.20.9 - then the likelihood is even less for her stuff to get a redo. There is a small possibility and I don't say "never"... but that's why I say "if ever" as the highest probability because he's got a shitton of other pans in the fire that he has ahead of considering to redo her story.

So, what happened to "DC will make all the content eventually, polls just choose the order of it"? I get that Debbie has substantial content already but it's old as hell and not up to par with the rest of the game at all, leaving that part of the game borderline unfinished because he doesn't feel like it would be a dick move. With that logic he could leave Erik's quest unfinished as well, or Mia's.

DC has other priorities and voters want new character quests instead of remakes right now, pretty logical, but there's a chance Debbie will get her remake once the fan favorites are out of the poll pool, or that DC himself choses to do her remake because he actually cares about SS. Why else would he propose her remake in the polls in the first place? Just because he doesn't directly indicate that he wants to remake Debbie's story, doesn't mean that's reason to speculate he will never update her. I hope I'm right for defending DC over this but I see no reason why she wouldn't get an update, even if it would be near the end of development.

 

[PebbIes1]

I love this game since the release!