Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5258] [Kompas Productions]

[Marphey]

I guess my point is complaining doesn't necessarily involve disagreement. Unless we want to include arbitrary disagreements like the folks who say pineapple on pizza is a sin. I mean, if you don't like it you have a right to complain if it's on your slice but let me eat my Hawaiian in peace.

I belive people who are criticizing pineapple on Pizza are pretentious as hell and they haven't actually try it.

 

[Count Morado]

Lol, did you even see the comment I replied to or you just jumped to attack anyone who dare to say anything about the creator like you always do. It's truly pathetic to be that terminally online, defend some creator of a game that too on this site.

This sure is "Pirate site" for some games but there a whole lot of games and creators who post their games her first and are even active here. This is a great funnel for looking for supporters for their patreons. People have every right to make comments here since DC doesn't care or even here. So, why are your so mad about? Also I rarely come here.

As for your "facts", it's nothing than delusion. I mean the Patreons who still support, or who have supported him in the past, recognize and call out his lazy and greedy behavior but you're still blinded by it. I don't even need to compare him to other creator and consider the amount of money he gets per month, to make an observation of being wrong. Either you're deluded or you're getting paid to do that(I hope so, else you need to introspect). I honestly can't tell.

Thanks for proving my point. As Hamlet says, you "doth protest too much, me thinks." Have a lovely day.

 

[shane001]

I only push back against the notion that he owes anyone anything in exchange for the money that they gave him voluntarily.

WTF are you even talking about. Patreon isn't a donation website. It's a membership platform, that provides business tools for content creators to run a subscription service. It helps creators and artists earn a monthly income by providing rewards and perks to their subscribers. So his current and old subscribers and supporters have every right to complain if they feel like they are being cheated on or not getting the benefits and still supporting him in the hope of things getting better(though I think they should just save their money and buy it when it comes out). Also there is nothing wrong in calling out lazy and greedy behavior of someone even if they're aren't the supporters on Patreon or not anymore since this thread is literally about the Game. Why are you so mad about it ?
But anyways, I am out.

 

[Gato21]

I belive people who are criticizing pineapple on Pizza are pretentious as hell and they haven't actually try it.

What if they have tried it and still hate it?

 

[sucklepuck]

Pineapple on pizza is mid.

 

[Xuketsu]

can't hate on WaL even though their updates are slow because

"WaL"? what is it?

 

[ImTransAndTiny]

I belive people who are criticizing pineapple on Pizza are pretentious as hell and they haven't actually try it.

Oh, I've tried it. You don't want your pizza to be sweet. It contrasts with the pizza sauce.

 

[Gato21]

"WaL"? what is it?

What a Legend

 

[Carmen Sandiego]

Oh, I've tried it. You don't want your pizza to be sweet. It contrasts with the pizza sauce.

Depends on the sauce. If it's tangy then sweet could match the sauce. With that said, I don't like pineapples so keep them shits away from my pizza!

 

[ImTransAndTiny]

WTF are you even talking about. Patreon isn't a donation website. It's a membership platform, that provides business tools for content creators to run a subscription service. It helps creators and artists earn a monthly income by providing rewards and perks to their subscribers.

Sure, it's all of those things. None of those things make it GoFundMe or Indiegogo, in which money is donated in return for a specific return on investment. They've gotten what they were promised for their membership. Anything they get beyond that is gravy.

Also there is nothing wrong in calling out lazy and greedy behavior of someone even if they're aren't the supporters on Patreon or not anymore since this thread is literally about the Game.

Well, actually, there is. As should be abundantly clear by now, we don't like the thread being full of people whining about a problem that we have no power to fix. Negativity brings people down. Positivity lifts them up. We have enough problems without other people airing their grievances against someone who isn't here. If you need to vent, yell into a pillow. It will accomplish exactly as much, but it won't piss anyone else off.

 

[Xuketsu]

What a Legend

THAnk you a lot!

 

[Zardoz23]

Depends on the sauce. If it's tangy then sweet could match the sauce. With that said, I don't like pineapples so keep them shits away from my pizza!

I don't know if it's "official" but every Hawaiian pizza I've had has been with BBQ sauce instead of regular pizza sauce. So yeah, a sweet and tangy sauce with cheese as the base. Then pineapple and ham on top.

And I also don't like pineapple. At least when it's on it's own or as a flavor of candy. The only way I eat pineapple is on pizza.

 

[Gato21]

I don't know if it's "official" but every Hawaiian pizza I've had has been with BBQ sauce instead of regular pizza sauce. So yeah, a sweet and tangy sauce with cheese as the base. Then pineapple and ham on top.

I might actually like that, or at least tolerate it that way; I already like BBQ chicken pizza. Standard pineapple with just Canadian bacon (ham), IMO, is trash-tier pizza.

 

[ImTransAndTiny]

I don't know if it's "official" but every Hawaiian pizza I've had has been with BBQ sauce instead of regular pizza sauce.

The Hawaiian pizza was created by Sam Panopoulos in Chatham, Ontario, in 1962. It used traditional tomato sauce. Someone wrote, without citation:

In the United States, some restaurants use barbecue sauce and pulled pork with pineapple and cheese as an alternative to the more traditional combination featuring tomato sauce and either ham or bacon.

I've seen pizza with barbecue sauce, but topped with chicken. I've never seen Hawaiian pizza with barbecue sauce.

 

[shane001]

They've gotten what they were promised for their membership

Huh? If that were the case, most of his supporters wouldn't have called him out or were frustrated with him. Even other creators have called out this. It's weird for you to act as his representative "They've gotten what they were promised for their membership".

we don't like the thread being full of people whining

We?? You mean you and the other terminally online guy who would jump on anyone at the mere criticism of the creator. If there are a lot of people complaining or voicing their opinion here on the game thread about the game and it's creator, then that means there is most likely a legitimate cause and should be called out. You can just easily ignore and move on.
If you get mad about people sharing opinion about the creator than, maybe it's time to touch some grass, go offline and do something else other then defending the creator on this thread 24/7.

but it won't piss anyone else off.

If you get that pissed at the mere criticism of the this creator, then maybe self introspect. Maybe the problem is you.

 

[ImTransAndTiny]

Huh? If that were the case, most of his supporters wouldn't have called him out or were frustrated with him.

I'll be happy to look at the survey you took that found that most of his supporters are frustrated with him. I guess that's why everyone cancelled their Patreon membership, right?

Hey, no doubt some people think they've been scammed. Those people don't understand how Patreon works or what a contract is. Being frustrated doesn't make them right!

If you get that pissed at the mere criticism of the this creator, then maybe self introspect. Maybe the problem is you.

You can criticize DC all you want. I've done it lots of times. (I can find some examples if you're too lazy to use the search functionality to find my criticism of his terrible project management.) Just don't misrepresent the facts and call him a scammer for not delivering on a contract he never made with people to whom nothing is owed.

But, let's say that you're right that I get pissed at the mere criticism of my lord and personal savior, DC, and the problem is me. What is the very best case scenario when you come here and call DC a scammer? Some people agree with you. DC is unaware of the conversation, and absolutely nothing was accomplished. Um, yay? That's the very best case scenario! 100% of people agree with you, and it changes nothing.

Realistically, what's far more likely to happen? You're going to start a fight! And does that make people feel good or bad? Remember when you were five and your mom told you not to spread your bad day to other people? It's still good advice. Complaining doesn't solve your problem, but it pisses people off.

So, you get unanimous agreement and it doesn't do anyone any good, or you start a fight. If that seems like a good idea, maybe the problem is you?

 

[Deleted member 105120]

You said people are whining, I only post after you guys those who support the dev continue to said that just wait for the tech update. 2 comment 1 is to again your people keep telling people to support a project that getting fund by other and one to again the lie Count Morado is telling every one.
I known that my English bad yet you could still read it and understand it. So tell me why I wait for 2 year just to reply on the matter. Do you think I don't support them? for almost 2 year I sub as highest tier. So it is you who don't have the right to telling me not to talk about it. There are other game only have 2k or 4k, they still update every weak or haft year with a huge update or they just hold the account if they don't have time for the game. There are many acting like the dev of this game and they being call scammer yet I don't see you walking around defend them.
"Realistically, what's far more likely to happen? You're going to start a fight! " => what is this? start a fight? so we don't have the right to talk about what is wrong and if we talk about it like we going to start a fight. Do you even in a fight before? with me if you only using word, it just a debate that all there is. Maybe any one have a voice again it is wrong to you.

 

[Sthr ▚ nix]

Do you think I don't support them? for almost 2 year I sub as highest tier.

If you truly support them, as highest tier, moreover. You know you got special access to their discord and you know for sure that you can complaint directly to DC. Yet, you are here and call Count Morado a liar?

And it's not like you can't talk shit about the game. It's just that it's pointless to do that here.

 

[ImTransAndTiny]

"Realistically, what's far more likely to happen? You're going to start a fight! " => what is this? start a fight? so we don't have the right to talk about what is wrong and if we talk about it like we going to start a fight.

Again, I find it difficult to understand what you're saying. As for this part: of course you have a right to complain, but why do it if you know that it will accomplish nothing positive and will make some people angry with you?

I say again, the best case scenario is that everyone agrees with you, and DC doesn't read it, and absolutely nothing happens. But if not everyone agrees with you, then there's an argument that wastes your time and everyone else's time and, again, nothing happens. The Tech Update doesn't get finished any faster and no one gets their money back. Complaining here is as useful as farting in a can day after day and praying that someday you'll save up enough farts to make a porn game get updated sooner.

 

[Sthr ▚ nix]

Complaining here is as useful as farting in a can day after day and praying that someday you'll save up enough farts to make a porn game get updated sooner.

Now that's an awesome analogy.