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Marphey

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May 13, 2019
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Yeah, I found F95 while I was still a patreon for this and a few other games, then saw the progression made by people who get paid better than some AAA game devs and just stopped. I still want to see the end of this game. But hope is wanning.
Many AAA games have been made in the same amount of time as this "tech update" is currently taking. I admit i don't know nothing about programing but it seems bit odd that it takes this long. I mean he is making enough to employ people full time.
 
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Count Morado

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Many AAA games have been made in the same amount of time as this "tech update" is currently taking.
No. They haven't. The average AAA game takes 3-5 years (remember, Cyberpunk 2077 took over 8 and it was a fucking mess on release) and hundreds of staff, as well as hundreds of millions of dollars to produce. While the tech update has taken much longer than expected - there is no need for hyperbole and made up information to support that fact.

Everything else in your comment makes sense.
made by people who get paid better than some AAA game devs and just stopped
Average AAA hourly wage is $50-$60 USD (based upon $100k-$120k annual salary). While you may be correct that a couple of the people on staff might get paid that much (DC being one) - just like the person above, there's no need to exaggerate or use false assumptions to make the case that this tech update has taken a long time, longer than anyone expected.
WALKTHROUGH PDF Please
There's a wiki that has a walkthrough (link in OP). There's a dedicated thread on F95 for walkthrough and help tips (link in OP).
 

Marphey

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No. They haven't. The average AAA game takes 3-5 years (remember, Cyberpunk 2077 took over 8 and it was a fucking mess on release) and hundreds of staff, as well as hundreds of millions of dollars to produce. While the tech update has taken much longer than expected - there is no need for hyperbole and made up information to support that fact.

Everything else in your comment makes sense.
Average AAA hourly wage is $50-$60 USD (based upon $100k-$120k annual salary). While you may be correct that a couple of the people on staff might get paid that much (DC being one) - just like the person above, there's no need to exaggerate or use false assumptions to make the case that this tech update has taken a long time, longer than anyone expected.

There's a wiki that has a walkthrough (link in OP). There's a dedicated thread on F95 for walkthrough and help tips (link in OP).
I mean you can continue making excuses but it doesn't change the fact that this "simple" tech update is just taking too long.
 

Qianke

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you guys are wasting your breath, this thread is moderated and soon all your posts will get cleaned by jannies for reasons you may suspect. Afterwards, some other users will start their shifts and start praising the game and circle will be complete.

As for the "tech update", even if it came out tomorrow I would not change my mind. Followed this game very early on and already noticed it was a scam roughly 4 years ago. I think the confirmation was when the dev decided to redraw the game, he also kicked out several coders, in retrospect, I think they were honest lads and simply didn't agree to put up with the malicious intentions. To me it was obvious at that point, and with luck there could stil be my posts in this thread from back then unless they were moderated(back then they werent deleting posts as often). So yeah, even if the update came out tomorrow it is still only after milked millions so yeah. Honestly good for the dev, may this serve as an example that most people are dumber from apes.
 
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Lesson of life if you pay for nothing you get nothing,if you wants to reward someone, do it once or twice until him deliver no more than that or you are spoil him or make him a lazy bastard. This works in real life, I don't thing why it won’t work in patreon.

P/D: When he blackmail you or demand more that is were you known that you are spoiling him.
 

reynold.biplane

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Hey, I got a question for the old hands here:
Which is the last version, before layered character art was introduced to the game and where can I download that version?
I want to rip the images from it. Layered images from the newest version are too much of a hassle to deal with, and I'd like to see the un-remade characters anyway.
 

Count Morado

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I mean you can continue making excuses but it doesn't change the fact that this "simple" tech update is just taking too long.
Who was making excuses? I stated quite plainly in my replies in my post that "the tech update has taken much longer than expected" and "this tech update has taken a long time, longer than anyone expected." I agreed with the two people I replied to in that aspect - where I disagreed were the fabricated/hyperboled AAA excuses made for comparison.
You know porn game devs like the ones for SS have made more appreciative of normal Indie devs because they manage to finish bigger and better games in less time than it takes for one "Tech Update".
You are incorrect about time necessary for bigger games by Indie developers. Larger indie games take 3-5 years - just like AAA games, just smaller budgets and staffs than AAA games (and - usually - smaller games than AAA games). But yes, this Tech Update is taking a long time, longer than anyone expected. You don't need to exaggerate, make up false statements to make the same point.
 

chanceman

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It's honestly a prime example of why management is a skill and why good managers are needed in any company. His general attitude of "I can't be bothered" is fine for a supermarket clerk but isn't any good when you're the lead. This attitude is causing 99% of the problems and complaints with the development but oh well.
That is insane. I'd be livid if I was supporting this with zero updates for months. Crazy.
 

NeroMustDie

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you guys are wasting your breath, this thread is moderated and soon all your posts will get cleaned by jannies for reasons you may suspect. Afterwards, some other users will start their shifts and start praising the game and circle will be complete.

As for the "tech update", even if it came out tomorrow I would not change my mind. Followed this game very early on and already noticed it was a scam roughly 4 years ago. I think the confirmation was when the dev decided to redraw the game, he also kicked out several coders, in retrospect, I think they were honest lads and simply didn't agree to put up with the malicious intentions. To me it was obvious at that point, and with luck there could stil be my posts in this thread from back then unless they were moderated(back then they werent deleting posts as often). So yeah, even if the update came out tomorrow it is still only after milked millions so yeah. Honestly good for the dev, may this serve as an example that most people are dumber from apes.

Oh, I've been "off topic"d & yeeted multiple times in this thread while actively discussing the game just in the last few days. Apparently, critique & criticism of the game & it's dev isn't "on topic"
 
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you guys are wasting your breath, this thread is moderated and soon all your posts will get cleaned by jannies for reasons you may suspect. Afterwards, some other users will start their shifts and start praising the game and circle will be complete.

As for the "tech update", even if it came out tomorrow I would not change my mind. Followed this game very early on and already noticed it was a scam roughly 4 years ago. I think the confirmation was when the dev decided to redraw the game, he also kicked out several coders, in retrospect, I think they were honest lads and simply didn't agree to put up with the malicious intentions. To me it was obvious at that point, and with luck there could stil be my posts in this thread from back then unless they were moderated(back then they werent deleting posts as often). So yeah, even if the update came out tomorrow it is still only after milked millions so yeah. Honestly good for the dev, may this serve as an example that most people are dumber from apes.
That's how it usually works here, but other threads(Wal for example) are not better and go full-simping and delete criticism as well without valid reasons.
 
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