Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5258] [Kompas Productions]

[Count Morado]

I know this is tongue in cheek, but this is still bullshit. I don't understand how you can consider a game completed because the main story is done, that's not at all a threshold for completion, especially considering the game has many unfinished parts, many of which have been part of the game's roadmap for a long time such as dating, the prom, certain fetishes, and character stories that haven't been developed. Calling it free DLC as if it's additional post-game content is wrong.

It is tongue in cheek, but you got offended with something that was meant in jest - but with a bit of a serious point to make. People had been complaining that DC should just finish this game and start a new one if he wants to rework things ... this was in response to that -- to consider changing their mindset toward the game. Which, I have noticed over the past 6 months, I have seen your mindset slightly change about certain things - or at least publicly showing acceptance of certain aspects of this and pushing back against the trolls. I find myself agreeing with you a lot more often the past several months than I did last year.

My post goes back to my usual contention that people need to stop thinking of games with "beginnings" and "endings" but more like anthologies and sequels and long-running television series. The game will have an ending when the developer decides they are done with the creation. Meanwhile things will take time, there will be additional content added, and when necessary, backend work in coding/visuals/etc will need to be done.

 

[itsyeboii]

It is tongue in cheek, but you got offended with something that was meant in jest - but with a bit of a serious point to make. People had been complaining that DC should just finish this game and start a new one if he wants to rework things ... this was in response to that -- to consider changing their mindset toward the game. Which, I have noticed over the past 6 months, I have seen your mindset slightly change about certain things - or at least publicly showing acceptance of certain aspects of this and pushing back against the trolls. I find myself agreeing with you a lot more often the past several months than I did last year.

My post goes back to my usual contention that people need to stop thinking of games with "beginnings" and "endings" but more like anthologies and sequels and long-running television series. The game will have an ending when the developer decides they are done with the creation. Meanwhile things will take time, there will be additional content added, and when necessary, backend work in coding/visuals/etc will need to be done.

Like you said yourself it was made in jest but did have an underlying point in it to sway people's mindsets. I wasn't offended, I just called bullshit on something I very much disagree with. I don't see how a game can be considered completed when a lot of features in the game haven't even been developed, features that have been part of the roadmap since the beginning or for a very long time at least.

When the dating, prom and girls + Kevin's quests are developed, then you can call it completed because that's what the game set out to do, anything after that is additional content, which is completely fine since it's an open-ended sandbox game after all. I don't disagree with you that people should have a different mindset towards this game, but I would not call it completed when there's features and core quests missing.

I would be lying if my own mindset hasn't changed a bit, but I'm generally still consistent with my opinions back then. I never called DC a scammer or milker, but I found the website to be a bit misleading, and the lack of communication or any professionalism whatsoever downright disrespectful to the patrons who are making it possible for DC to do whatever the fuck he wants for a generous amount of money. I never wanted him to change his ways tho, just be clear about how you don't give a fuck and just want to draw like you claim so that people can manage their expectations better when donating money, many people donate with the thought that it will help DC in developing SS but we've already hit that ceiling years ago, yet on the site and Patron he's still e-begging for money while he's doodling away on stream with ~20k in the bank every month.

I'm just not vocal and salty about it because I don't really give a damn nowadays, that's why I'm not playing the devil's advocate for milkers anymore, and I've sometimes called them out because they've been increasingly active in this thread and lack any logic whatsoever.

 

[mattius77]

For those of us who have felt like SS was 'completed' sometime in 2019, this announcement feels sort of anticlimactic.

 

[PayneToTheMax]

I know this is tongue in cheek, but this is still bullshit. I don't understand how you can consider a game completed because the main story is done, that's not at all a threshold for completion, especially considering the game has many unfinished parts, many of which have been part of the game's roadmap for a long time such as dating, the prom, certain fetishes, and character stories that haven't been developed. Calling it free DLC as if it's additional post-game content is wrong.

You say that like other games haven't pulled that one in the past. Milky Touch immediately comes to mind, which was ultimately rushed to the end with only 2 real routes out of who knows how many, and still a pot of unfinished stuff in it, but still has a Complete slapped on it.

 

[itsyeboii]

You say that like other games haven't pulled that one in the past. Milky Touch immediately comes to mind, which was ultimately rushed to the end with only 2 real routes out of who knows how many, and still a pot of unfinished stuff in it, but still has a Complete slapped on it.

And?

 

[PayneToTheMax]

And?

And people have just swallowed it. We both know it's not the case with Summertime Saga, but you can be sure there are people unironically willing to swallow Count Morado's tongue-in-cheek post.

 

[ZeroxAlpha]

Unofficially complete and no Annie Romance or Naughty Scene? Super Sad, not even Mrs. Smith naughty scenes.

Or what they do at night inside that room at school. They both need more content

 

[Deleted member 5002149]

Unofficially complete and no Annie Romance or Naughty Scene? Super Sad, not even Mrs. Smith naughty scenes.

Or what they do at night inside that room at school. They both need more content

this, the hall monitor clearly has like a spanking/dominance fetish, also the principal's house was a fucking sex dungeon lol.

 

[Count Morado]

ZeroxAlpha and zbamf91 --

You know my post was in jest, right? I mean, I hold no position on the development team. I used superlatives and sardonic phrasing to elucidate. In other words, it was meant for people to get over themselves and to consider looking at the development in another perspective.

Do you believe everything typed on the internet?

 

[ZeroxAlpha]

ZeroxAlpha and zbamf91 --

You know my post was in jest, right? I mean, I hold no position on the development team. I used superlatives and sardonic phrasing to elucidate. In other words, it was meant for people to get over themselves and to consider looking at the development in another perspective.

Do you believe everything typed on the internet?

Pray, good sir or madam, dost thou taketh me for a fool? Methinks thy words, cloaked in jest, doth ill befit thy guise. Thou claimest to hold no sway in the realm of developers, Yet thy verbiage, drenched in irony, dost confound.

In sooth, I comprehend thy intent to provoke, To bid others cast aside their pride and see anew. Yet must I question, with grave concern, Whether thou truly believest all the web doth portend?

Forsooth, the internet is a realm of much deceit, A labyrinth wherein falsehoods oft find their abode. Though one must not swallow every word as truth, Nor be swayed by fallacies that falsely masquerade.

So, good sir or madam, be not so quick to assume, That I, a mere conjurer of language, am a gullible fool. I wield the power of knowledge, within my virtual domain, And with discernment, I separate truth from falsehood's reign.

But to be clear, I just want more Annie content. Jeez, can't even make a show of desire without someone being pissy.

 

[ZeroxAlpha]

this, the hall monitor clearly has like a spanking/dominance fetish, also the principal's house was a fucking sex dungeon lol.

I wouldn't mind being the dominant boyfriend to Annie. She is 100% my type

 

[PayneToTheMax]

He wasn’t being pissy, he was pointing out that he was bullshitting.

Case in point lol.

 

[Count Morado]

Pray, good sir or madam, dost thou taketh me for a fool? Methinks thy words, cloaked in jest, doth ill befit thy guise. Thou claimest to hold no sway in the realm of developers, Yet thy verbiage, drenched in irony, dost confound.

In sooth, I comprehend thy intent to provoke, To bid others cast aside their pride and see anew. Yet must I question, with grave concern, Whether thou truly believest all the web doth portend?

Forsooth, the internet is a realm of much deceit, A labyrinth wherein falsehoods oft find their abode. Though one must not swallow every word as truth, Nor be swayed by fallacies that falsely masquerade.

So, good sir or madam, be not so quick to assume, That I, a mere conjurer of language, am a gullible fool. I wield the power of knowledge, within my virtual domain, And with discernment, I separate truth from falsehood's reign.

But to be clear, I just want more Annie content. Jeez, can't even make a show of desire without someone being pissy.

Nice use of an online Shakespeare translator. And yes, yes I do - the lord doth protest too much, methinks.

Annie content is scheduled to come after the tech update and the R(h)onda update, but before the Judith update.

 

[Merlin2013]

is this game worth playing or wait for complete version?
and
what are the lack content this game needs to have for complete version?

 

[Count Morado]

is this game worth playing or wait for complete version?
and
what are the lack content this game needs to have for complete version?

If you wait for "complete" version - you will never play this game because that is years away, if ever.
The dating sim component remains that results in taking a date to the dance. However, the development is stalled because the tech update is still being done, 2 years after starting it. If you want to know more, see the 88th posting of my FAQ since Feb 2022 here: #71,274

 

[Merlin2013]

If you wait for "complete" version - you will never play this game because that is years away, if ever.
The dating sim component remains that results in taking a date to the dance. However, the development is stalled because the tech update is still being done, 2 years after starting it. If you want to know more, see the 88th posting of my FAQ since Feb 2022 here: #71,274

thanks for the link helps alot
i searched for estimated time to complete the game at current version but couldent find it
so how long it take to complete (play) the game at current state?

 

[Count Morado]

thanks for the link helps alot
i searched for estimated time to complete the game at current version but couldent find it
so how long it take to complete (play) the game at current state?

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[Juidas]

thanks for the link helps alot
i searched for estimated time to complete the game at current version but couldent find it
so how long it take to complete (play) the game at current state?

There is plenty of content in the original game that can keep you amused for quite a while, but how long it will take depends on your stamina!!

 

[Dardanit]

Holy fuck i wasn't following this thread for a long time now and thought hey let's play the last 1 or 2 updates or maybe there are even more but wtf almost a year since the last update that is fucking saddening.

 

[teraptuss]

ZeroxAlpha and zbamf91 --

You know my post was in jest, right? I mean, I hold no position on the development team. I used superlatives and sardonic phrasing to elucidate. In other words, it was meant for people to get over themselves and to consider looking at the development in another perspective.

Do you believe everything typed on the internet?

no no now ...I might be new to the internet, but pretty sure I know the number one rule. Which is everything I read on the internet must be true. I read what you said and it was indeed on the internet so by the laws of the internet you are now the main Dev.