Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5258] [Kompas Productions]
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- Jun 19, 2017
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I think it's a fine line to walk for DC. Ultimately it's the tech update (widescreen) and the countless refinements added, which will help the game to stay popular and which will probably make it an actual "classic" once we are talking about NSFW-games. Given how well good 2D art ages in general, there's no real objective need to hurry.
I've thought about it at times during these last years and he's probably right to add all these details instead of just pushing content as fast as possible.
As an example, yes, he spent 2 streams drawing a pet goat in 10 different postions in Missy's house, but details like these are what differentiates the game from almost everything else on the market. It's those small things and details which keep people invested, make them take a second or third look and which create that atmosphere and "first time wow factor" that so many other games lack.
I'm not saying that it isn't a real shame that posing and coding became such big issues, but at least he seems to be using the time to add content, that'll benefit the game in the long run.
- Feb 4, 2017
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Nice to see the blog posting hasn't stopped and people are still whining as if their opinion mattered.
- Aug 12, 2018
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diagree completly, what differentiated STS from other games (and what made it such a success) were reliable updates from DC, him engaging with his community on picarto, a cast of relatively well written characters that covered almost every vanilla taste and of course the relative open nature of the game (it was partly more point and click adventure than a straight VN)
those details you talk about don't make the game better a single bit just like the meme characters didn't
- Jun 19, 2017
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We are talking about very different things here. SS was certainly a bit of a pioneer in some regards back in the days, but if you look at these regular pre 0.16 updates, you'll see how objectively bad the game was back then. Yes, the game would have probably be finished for quite some time if DC had continued to release these kind of updates, but it likely would have also been forgotten by now.
So it's right for DC to focus on those things which will make the game stay popular and which will attract new players. It's bad for those who are waiting for updates, but it's good for those who'll play the game for the first time.
It's not that I like those meme characters that much, but I don't think they really hurt the game, either.
I mean, let's face it, the alternative to these meme characters wouldn't have been "no new characters" but just "non meme characters" with similar character traits.
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- Feb 25, 2018
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TBH, I wish there were alternatives to the meme characters. They kinda distract from the overall experience as a whole.
- Jun 19, 2017
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Yeah, though I guess it really depends on personal taste. I don't mind characters like Ricky, Tina, Kim, the 3 mafia girls, etc. while I personally don't like Keeves, Gamsay and to some degree Raz.
The only meme I'm actually looking forward to is Mr. Matthews. But maybe that's just because I really liked Scrubs back in the days and because it's likely going to be actual fun reading these dialogs.
Edit: In case anybody wants to have a look, they already updated the wiki, so it includes all of these new characters like Mr. Matthews, Ms. Irfan, Mrs. Boyle, Catherine, Jade, etc.
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Honestly if I have to guess DD started the development of the tech update after the 20.16 and only have before that a concept or just an idea or maybe he start everything again. That is the most positive vision I can have.
Check the fan art thread. Theres a few fan artists in there who take commissions that look very very similar to the real thing. Its probably the best bet for most people to get their kicks at this point
Personally speaking? I wish they hadn’t chosen to add all these meme characters to the game. The problem is, they were added, and have more Content than girls that have been there since the very beginning of the game. Which if you think about it it’s just kind of sad.
Plus, they kind of date the game a bit. As I have said before with mayor rump the whole thing is a big orange man bad meme, mixed with’ hey, wouldn’t it be fun to bang his wife and daughter?’ Which I mean… we are years past that point.
So it feels dated. I don’t think their existence is the issue. I think it’s much more than all these meme characters at this point tend to get more focused on then the actual girls original to the game.
Judith, is just one example but think about how kind of wild it is Mia the obvious main love interest has less scenes and attention than a meme version of trumps daughter.
Plus, they kind of date the game a bit. As I have said before with mayor rump the whole thing is a big orange man bad meme, mixed with’ hey, wouldn’t it be fun to bang his wife and daughter?’ Which I mean… we are years past that point.
So it feels dated. I don’t think their existence is the issue. I think it’s much more than all these meme characters at this point tend to get more focused on then the actual girls original to the game.
Judith, is just one example but think about how kind of wild it is Mia the obvious main love interest has less scenes and attention than a meme version of trumps daughter.
- May 14, 2020
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Well, that's how DC's patrons voted.
Then again, it's not like it's going to stay that way. Iwanka is a somewhere between tertiary/secondary tier and that's where she's going to stay, while Mia and Judith are supposed to get proper stories, just like Roxxy and Eve.
As said above, if there hadn't been these meme characters, the corrupt "not-Rump-mayor" would likely have had a wife and daughter, too.
Yes and yes. But it'll almost certainly either be a small surprise update or one of the last updates we'll get. It's just not very popular compared to basically everything else DC could add.
- May 14, 2020
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On top of the answer already given, I'd like to add that atm it's been alluding to happen. Actual gay scenes between those two don't exist in the game.
i don't understand why those game come with satisfying content in their first months, like multiple characters, scenes, locations, and then they stop and only update once a year or less, with limited content. Is it just to milk patreon money? I don't understand how it can take so long for one path on one character, when they already did 5-10 characters. Did they take 10 years to release their first version?
- Mar 9, 2020
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Have there been no none tech related updates these past 3 years?
I keep checking back on this game expecting some change but its always the tech update.
Sure its important to optimize and modernize the game but the dude gets like 70k a month, can't he get some other people to help him or something?
I keep checking back on this game expecting some change but its always the tech update.
Sure its important to optimize and modernize the game but the dude gets like 70k a month, can't he get some other people to help him or something?
- Aug 26, 2020
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There are no benefits for him to finish updates faster, bro is farming paychecks to retire with 7 figures in his bank account off this one game. Don't think its a coincidence the game was nearing completion and then updates essentially stopped for years. I wouldn't expect to hear from dc again once this game is finished, if it ever is.
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it never really seemed like it was a caricature of trump as a politician. more of him as the kinda scummy rich guy we knew him as before he got elected. i don't think either of them would've been very funny, but the way don is portrayed seems more "mid-2000s" than "snl alec baldwin". i agree with your point that they shouldn't have been in the game, but it always felt like more of a general shitpost than any pro- or anti-trump sentiment lmao