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PayneToTheMax

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Feb 4, 2017
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I think a lot of people underestimate how much work reworking code and an engine can take.
Typical consumer mentality, really. Want it done yesterday rather than tomorrow, lest something could upset them. As we can repeatedly see in these threads. Nothing screams this

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more than the last couple of hundred of pages. It shows who are actually the butthurt ones over those who supposedly can actually go and wank it to other games.
 

McSlut

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Aug 12, 2018
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I think a lot of people underestimate how much work reworking code and an engine can take.
the whole tech update rework was a mistake in the first place. what DC should have done is finish the remaining girl routes the same way he did before, rework mia and erik. maybe do one last harem update where you can fuck some of the girls in the beach house, then work on the ending where asking one of the girls should be a simple question you can ask them to go to the ball with you at the end of each route and then call it done and start working on a new game or summertime saga 2 where he can reuse lots of background pics and convert them to 16:9 without having to do that for every single background that exists. not every side character nobody cares about is going to get content, not every girl gets a pregnancy feature, who cares.

the dating system is a pipe dream anyway that will never get implemented. if you think DC is going to take 3 additional years to implement a dating system for every girl you are supposed to "date" you are delusional.
 

beldr

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the whole tech update rework was a mistake in the first place. what DC should have done is finish the remaining girl routes the same way he did before, rework mia and erik. maybe do one last harem update where you can fuck some of the girls in the beach house, then work on the ending where asking one of the girls should be a simple question you can ask them to go to the ball with you at the end of each route and then call it done and start working on a new game or summertime saga 2 where he can reuse lots of background pics and convert them to 16:9 without having to do that for every single background that exists. not every side character nobody cares about is going to get content, not every girl gets a pregnancy feature, who cares.

the dating system is a pipe dream anyway that will never get implemented. if you think DC is going to take 3 additional years to implement a dating system for every girl you are supposed to "date" you are delusional.
I do agree that doing the tech update 6 years into development was not the wisest idea, but it mighrt have gotten to a point that it was needed to continue working the way he wanted.
I think this is a case of wanting way more of the game that could be done with the base he had. For example Four Elements trainer chapter 1 is very barebones compared with rest of game but dev said that it would be way more trouble than worth reworking it.
 
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The joke is on him, though. He turned his passion into an endless slog, and the bad will he generates will make a follow-up almost impossible.
How is the joke on him? The man is making stacks of cash, to the point that he won't need to make a followup of anything. He can transition to works somewhere else, invest a bunch, and go enjoy life with all that cheddar. I think he's good.
 
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Typical consumer mentality, really. Want it done yesterday rather than tomorrow, lest something could upset them. As we can repeatedly see in these threads. Nothing screams this

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more than the last couple of hundred of pages. It shows who are actually the butthurt ones over those who supposedly can actually go and wank it to other games.
Well you being here every hour and every day,sure means you're the butthurt one.
 

FlamesOfVengeance

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Jul 16, 2019
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Kinda insane how slow the dev team is apparently working... It feels like everytime I look at the progress bar it's stuck somewhere between 70% and 80%. And it's been like that for a year or so now... I miss this game so much but I only wanted to jump back in when the tech update is here but it sure is taking its sweet time.
 
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How is it possible that after so long without a decent update this guy still has 27k+ patreon subs? Are people just too lazy to stop their $1 pledge?
I believe is a loop... A lot of people stops paying the patreon but at the same time a lot of new players discovers the game and see that you can "support" with only one buck without knowing the actual status of the development, they pay and then they see the reality and there is no other remedy that to wait to your pay month to finish....

DC found himself in a cycle of "eternal" income product of the ignorance of new players (that's why I believe he hardly make a status update).
 

kofu

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Nov 22, 2017
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Hey, how do you get the Achievement "Long lost father"? The father's already in jail; do I need him to be free in order to get it?
6 years later but still gonna answer.
You have to do it right after Larry get arrested and ask you to say a few words to Erik, go on Erik's house on the mailbox and read the letter.
 

dkatryl

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May 26, 2018
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DC found himself in a cycle of "eternal" income product of the ignorance of new players (that's why I believe he hardly make a status update).
I think another major factor that often gets overlooked is simply the timing of when SS was released. It was one of the earlier Ren'py games out there and had the benefit of having not as many options.

If it was released more recently, say at the same time as a comparable game in style and development/release cycle tims, What a Legend, then it would probably be much closer in Patron numbers.
 

emixam2005

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Jan 2, 2020
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The loading bar has dropped to 75% but I also see that the loading bar of the "art" part also dropped while being at 100% before.
I gues that means DC want to ask even more content for the "who knows when" coming uptate.
Which might of course increase the workload and so delay again the release date.

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As if it was not a nightmare already ^^'
 

Green83rry

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I believe is a loop... A lot of people stops paying the patreon but at the same time a lot of new players discovers the game and see that you can "support" with only one buck without knowing the actual status of the development, they pay and then they see the reality and there is no other remedy that to wait to your pay month to finish....

DC found himself in a cycle of "eternal" income product of the ignorance of new players (that's why I believe he hardly make a status update).
The loading bar has dropped to 75% but I also see that the loading bar of the "art" part also dropped while being at 100% before.
I gues that means DC want to ask even more content for the "who knows when" coming uptate.
Which might of course increase the workload and so delay again the release date.

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As if it was not a nightmare already ^^'
Ah yes. The cycle continues...
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TwoHeavens

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How is it possible that after so long without a decent update this guy still has 27k+ patreon subs? Are people just too lazy to stop their $1 pledge?
Id bet a good amount of his supporters are people who forgot about it. Ive seen much smaller devs who have basically been completely silent for years still making hundreds of dollars a month from people who just forget about it. If patreon made patrons confirm their subscription every couple of months these scamming devs would actually have incentive to update their games. But I doubt that will ever happen. The whole business model of patreon is pretty anti consumer to begin with.
 

dkatryl

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Id bet a good amount of his supporters are people who forgot about it. Ive seen much smaller devs who have basically been completely silent for years still making hundreds of dollars a month from people who just forget about it. If patreon made patrons confirm their subscription every couple of months these scamming devs would actually have incentive to update their games. But I doubt that will ever happen. The whole business model of patreon is pretty anti consumer to begin with.
Considering Patreon gets x% off every $, it's in their financial interest to let zombie subs continue indefinitely.
 
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