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Count Morado

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Not defending him btw :ROFLMAO:
Not defending him. I was making a point that the person had no point. They were making a strawman argument around "taking time off" something we all do from our work.

It's ridiculous the level of entitlement shown when anyone wants to take time off from work on developing a game ... or needs to because they are sick, or has family obligations.

Heaven forbid if your cumshots in your dirty socks are less important than the developer taking care of oneself. Especially... again... for a game that is free to play.

Honestly, people need to grow up and stop throwing tantrums or be sniveling brats about a free game. About any game. Especially a game that, even if it did cost money, 99% of us are all here to take without offering a red cent.
I'm absolutely baffled that there's people in this thread dick munching the fuck outta this mf, when it's blatant obvious that he's milking the hell out of this game, i don't know if its delusion or actual brain damage
You can't milk something that is 100% free to play directly from the person you say is milking. Go to his website, download the game, don't pay a thing.

As for the subscribers, they are given everything their tier benefits promise them.

Where is the milking?
 

PayneToTheMax

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Oh no! He posted the thing! Whatever shall I do now?!

I'd actually be laughing if you weren't incredible one note, the only worthwhile thing to your posts being the pair of jugs on your icon, and (and that's honestly the thing that really invalidates your opinion) you unironically like RPGmaker slop. Those weren't good when Violated Heroine came out, and they still aren't good.

So, are we done with insulting each other and actually gonna have a honest discussion, or would you rather continue calling me a bootlicker while I'll call you an NTL cocksucker?

Your choice.

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Snugglepuff

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Apr 27, 2017
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So, are we done with insulting each other and actually gonna have a honest discussion
Given how long it's been since there's been any honest discussion about the game itself, I'm surprised the thread hasn't been locked yet.
The only thing more surprising is the lack of moderator appearance.
 
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DredgenVayn

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Oh no! He posted the thing! Whatever shall I do now?!

I'd actually be laughing if you weren't incredible one note, the only worthwhile thing to your posts being the pair of jugs on your icon, and (and that's honestly the thing that really invalidates your opinion) you unironically like RPGmaker slop. Those weren't good when Violated Heroine came out, and they still aren't good.

So, are we done with insulting each other and actually gonna have a honest discussion, or would you rather continue calling me a bootlicker while I'll call you an NTL cocksucker?

Your choice.

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Poggersq

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how many pages of comments you'll think they'll allow w/o deleting them? also also: some one pass these soy boys whining over a free game a bud light, they really need that shit. now honestly i wasn't here until a joker gasp post notified me, but hot dayum that was some deep shots, how will Sam0009 respond? seni's got a proper counterblow, and we've yet to hear from sam..! what're your thoughts chat? things getting hot now...!
 

tomcody111

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Whatever update is next dev kind of screwed themselves. Unless content is doubled its a bit hard to justify a yearlong hiatus to the patrons. Love this game but that's a brutal long wait.
 

RT5X

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I haven't played this game since 2021
ill see if there's another update by the time GTA 6 releases lol
 
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Negativpro0

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Could somebody explain how a game like this is earning so much money? From the CG and tags i do not see the appeal. Like i see how it can appeal to many people, but this many? with those artworks?
 

0wn3dbot

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Patreon turned out to be a pretty flawed system. Obviously, from a certain earnings threshold, the author must give guarantees (like "update very 2 months") and then fulfill them. If guarantees are not met, funding is terminated. Otherwise, all these products in early access turn into outright parasitism.
 
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manneychin

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Patreon turned out to be a pretty flawed system. Obviously, from a certain earnings threshold, the author must give guarantees (like "update very 2 months") and then fulfill them. If guarantees are not met, funding is terminated. Otherwise, all these products in early access turn into outright parasitism.
All crowdfunding sites should do this
cause if only patreon does this a dev could just move to subscribestar

if this was implemented tho, devs would just put out short 1 scene updates every 2 months

but honestly i would love this
None of these would work. Authors would game a system that demands them defining the "guarantees" and there would be endless yapping about "I meant this by that so the condition is met". And forget about a uniform process across all sites.

There is a solution.

For the first year, 50% of any paying-subscriber's monthly pay goes directly to the author, like now, but the other 50% is withheld until work is being released. About a week after work is released Patreon automatically calls all paying-subscribers since the previous release to vote on whether or not the newest work meets expectations (votes are weighted by how many months each voter paid across the interval). The vote is open for a week. If 50%+ of voters say YES, the author gets the other 50% in one big pay-off. Otherwise, the money is split across other Patreon authors, with paying-subscribers having limited control on exactly who gets it (so subscribers can't game the system as money always definitely leaves their hands and they can certainly punish this author but they can't control exactly who else gets the money so they must REALLY want to punish this author).
What happens after a year of not delivering? Paying-subscribers are called to vote on what share of their monthly pay still goes directly to the author: 50% or lower.

This system will GREATLY improve everything about this kind of financing and all thresholds can be tuned to be looser for authors that consistently meet expectations. Authors would be greatly incentivized to deliver often and according to the expectations they themselves set to grow their subscriber base. Voting can also be tuned to adjust the punishment depending on how unhappy paying-subscribers are.

Patreon just has to care about more than policing fantasies and getting their cut.
 
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RT5X

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None of these would work. Authors would game a system that demands them defining the "guarantees" and there would be endless yapping about "I meant this by that so the condition is met". And forget about a uniform process across all sites.

There is a solution. For the first year, 50% of any patreon's monthly pay goes to the author directly, like now, but the other 50% is temporarily withheld until work is being released. A week after work is released Patreon automatically calls patreons to vote on whether or not the work meets expectations. The vote is open for another week. If 50%+ of voters say YES, the author gets the other 50%. Otherwise, the money is split across other Patreon authors, with patreons having limited control on exactly who gets it.

What happens after a year of not delivering? Patrons are called to vote on what share of their monthly pay still goes directly to the author: 50% or lower.

This system will GREATLY improve everything about this kind of financing and all thresholds can be tuned to be looser for authors that consistently pass patreons vote on meeting expectations.

Patreon just has to care about more than policing fantasies.
You know what....
i love this idea more

It most likely wont happen unless the whole "milking patrons" thing happens more often
(like Kickstarter lol)
So far it mostly happens for NSFW games (unless im wrong lol)
 

Kaiki-tan

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honestly tho, this thread ought to be locked untill the update comes out.



...so, forever :KEK:
For real though dude! I mostly just lurk, but every time I look into the thread all I see is people whining about the update or creator for the hundredth time, and others passive aggressively arguing/correcting them. I get why, but it's been like this for practically years, some people surely ought to get tired... At least I hope.

I come here every few months to see if there's any news or healthy convo, but it's drowned in a sea of doodoo.
 
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