Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.6011] [Kompas Productions]

[jefi2000]

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To be perfectly honest, DC has the money now to just flat out buy support from users and mods.

I think the only question that needs answering is why the dev dangled a carrot saying it would take a few months for the tech update 6 millennia ago, knowing that even now he still hasn't even finished the art which is his main thing in all this (and people tout like some triumph that he streams to prove he's still working on stuff).

I can understand underestimating how much art would be involved by a few months, but saying the entirety of the update would take months and yet his side of it that he would have known inside and out before even starting still isn't done after a few years? At that point you really can't honestly defend the guy, nor argue against anyone being critical of this.

 

[TaurusBR]

To be perfectly honest, DC has the money now to just flat out buy support from users and mods.

I think the only question that needs answering is why the dev dangled a carrot saying it would take a few months for the tech update 6 millennia ago, knowing that even now he still hasn't even finished the art which is his main thing in all this (and people tout like some triumph that he streams to prove he's still working on stuff).

I can understand underestimating how much art would be involved by a few months, but saying the entirety of the update would take months and yet his side of it that he would have known inside and out before even starting still isn't done after a few years? At that point you really can't honestly defend the guy, nor argue against anyone being critical of this.

DC doesn't really care about completing the game, he himself has said and made it clear that the game will never be finished. However, he promised it would only take a few months, but that's not what happened. Many game developers have already commented here too, and they all have the same line of reasoning as all those who criticize DC. "With the money and time that development is taking, the game could have been completed ages ago, and he could have made the same game on several different engines. And he could have created another game if he wanted to." Not in those words, but clearly in the same direction.

Criticizing DC in this thread is prohibited, DC defenders report all critical comments made after the delay and the comments are deleted. For them, criticism is a troll's art, which violates the site's guidelines, which they say is pirated. It really is something we will never understand.

 

[FinalZero]

wait it been 1 years long now i near forgot this game now is this game still work >>>?????

 

[mrpopo69]

Well, technically he's still making Princess Trainer 2, but the last news from him was in August of last year

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I was thinking about Star Channel but I recently found about this one too. This is his more serious project but I think there's barely any information on it. Some people call it "Queen Trainer" but that is an abandoned project from a long time ago. It seems like he'll release it all when it's done rather than do what these other devs do and drip feed content updates

Akabur always worked super slow on things since he's doing everything himself and I respect that he's transparent about how he works. When he finished Princess Trainer he told everyone yeah I'm not making anything after this for awhile so you can stop being a patron on my patreon. I just wish he had a team around him and made more games though

 

[Deep-Six]

DC could not care less about the abandoned tag being placed here. I am not against the tag but it will not change anything, maybe one or two users who saw the game here and who would initially support him through Patreon will see the "abandoned" tag and decide against supporting him but that wouldn't even make a dent in DC's income. Most of his supporters are okay giving him money for wallpapers and hoping for an update soon, some of them have auto-renew and forgot to cancel their subscription, whatever the case I don't think the tag matters in a wide-scale.

The only thing that the tag will do is stop people coming here and complaining that the abandoned tag has not been placed.

I am not defending DC but the tag discussion has been going around for months and in my opinion it will do nothing. Please feel free to share your opinion.

 

[Xupuzulla]

Oh yeah,when this game gets the abandoned tag this thread is going to be a shitshow
Enjoy the last weeks of peace,folks

 

[McSlut]

the abandoned tag isn't for making DC lose money or pressuring him to work faster, it's simply for informing people who come to this thread that the game hasn't gotten any updates in a ridiculous long time

as a good side effect, it also shows how far the game has fallen, summertime saga never had the greatest art or the most amazing story (at least in my opinion) but back when summertime saga started one of the greatest things about it was the transparency of the game development and the reliability of DC to release updates on a frequent basis. that has completly gone obviously.

 

[PayneToTheMax]

Some deluded souls do, but I think the majority want the tag because it would provide a concrete piece of proof that their view of reality is correct: that DC is a con artist, that everyone who supported/defended him is an ignorant sheeple, and (most importantly) that they are vindicated for every low effort shitpost or ten page essay they made mocking the first two camps. Nothing quite motivates a keyboard warrior like being proven that they were right on the internet.

And they will not be shy in letting this thread know. Come May 1st it's gonna look like Lord of the Fucking Flies in here, only with less warpaint and more shit flinging.

So basically your average day on /v/ or /pol/

the abandoned tag isn't for making DC lose money or pressuring him to work faster, it's simply for informing people who come to this thread that the game hasn't gotten any updates in a ridiculous long time as a good side effect, it also shows how far the game has fallen, summertime saga never had the greatest art or the most amazing story (at least in my opinion) but back when summertime saga started one of the greatest things about it was the transparency of the game development and the reliability of DC to release updates on a frequent basis. that has completly gone obviously.

Simply reading the thread is enough for that. Any page, even, because nobody can shut up about it. Anyone who has even a passing interest in the game on this website probably knows.

Not like it matters when he probably gets most of his fans over on Xitter. And good luck rallying people against him over there.

 

[icherwin]

The bigger issue isnt that the tech update is taking a while, its basically a rebuild. The issue is this:

2/28/24 Progress for Tech Update - Total Tasks: 660 Completed: 80.61% InProgress: 4.55% Remaining: 14.84%
10/7/23 Progress for Tech Update - Total Tasks: 554 Completed: 82.67% InProgress: 2.71% Remaining: 14.62%
5/20/23 Progress for Tech Update - Total Tasks: 553 Completed: 81.56% InProgress: 2.71% Remaining: 15.73%
2/15/23 Progress for Tech Update - Total Tasks: 553 Completed: 80.29% InProgress: 3.44% Remaining: 16.27%
11/2022 Progress for Tech Update - Total Tasks: 546 Completed: 79.49% InProgress: 3.66% Remaining: 16.85%

Over a year and they are really no closer because of feature creep. This is the kind of stuff that gets projects cancelled or stall into oblivion. Also, to me oddly convenient how it's always just a little bit away.

As soon it goes up to 82%, it will go down to 80% again.

 

[Ragnar_Rykkel]

Anyone know what the money is called in saves, to cheat with a save editor?

 

[Count Morado]

Anyone know what the money is called in saves, to cheat with a save editor?

You don't need a save editor.
Start new game with cheats enabled.
If you have a game already saved (or starting at "new content"), make sure to back up your save and then use the WIFI symbol in the game's phone to edit.

See video below. If it is your first time using the WIFI symbol, you will have an extra prompt asking for you to respond "I UNDERSTAND" when warned about messing with anything in that interface.
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[impropertaboo]

Using that data, I expect the update to be done around November 2029 (not accounting for any "setbacks"), or December 2043 (if setbacks are considered). During that time, DC would earn $4 million or $14.2 million respectively.

 

[NiKiller88]

he does makes a public patreon post every monday

He has a patreon? Well, damn, I only follow a 3rd party telegram channel that supposedly relays news from him, and that channel doesn't mention any patreon whatsoever. It's not like I'm his big fan, so I literally didn't know he was so vocal online. Now I feel stupid and I have a lot of reading to do, there's a lot of posts on his patreon it seems.

 

[Davai099]

Using that data, I expect the update to be done around November 2029 (not accounting for any "setbacks"), or December 2043 (if setbacks are considered). During that time, DC would earn $4 million or $14.2 million respectively.


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Unfortunately, it seems like so.

 

[Ragnar_Rykkel]

You don't need a save editor.
Start new game with cheats enabled.
If you have a game already saved (or starting at "new content"), make sure to back up your save and then use the WIFI symbol in the game's phone to edit.

See video below. If it is your first time using the WIFI symbol, you will have an extra prompt asking for you to respond "I UNDERSTAND" when warned about messing with anything in that interface.
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Thanks for the information, was thinking more so one could start at the latest content, then simply just add any amount of money, so no slog through the game

 

[Count Morado]

Thanks for the information, was thinking more so one could start at the latest content, then simply just add any amount of money, so no slog through the game

Yup, then the WIFI symbol in game is the way to go. Click the Add $1000 button a few times and you're good to go.

Happy to help.

 

[srksrk 68]

do you get points for making the same statement over and over and over,congrats on having my last post removed.this game was great in 2021 it had everything.seems dev has gone backwards,3 small updates in 2022-relevant to this thread,then where are we.seems to be operatating to f95 rules-post on media,updates 18 months apart and it seems a mouth piece.mods by all means delete this but know this you are being played.we members should be able to call out devs who dont perform,forget the fact over 28000 patrons.you say off topic-what topic is it.perhaps its time for a rule change.

Didn't you know how DC spends all his Patreon earnings?

• Paying pirate forum white hats (40%)
  • Additional bonus for each posting repeating the same statement (varying)
• Preventing additional artists from job applications (20%)
• Finding reasons to fire developers that work too fast (20%)
• Marking pirate forum posts for deletion (10%)
• Generous revards for finding new tasks delaying tech update completion (10%)
• Baking cookies for himself and his family (5%)
  • No cookies for team members (1% for finding excuses)
• Finding additional income to cover the missing 6% (-6%)

 

[McSlut]

Paying pirate forum white hats (40%)

• Additional bonus for each posting repeating the same statement (varying)

we know they do it for free which is even more disturbing

 

[Hero1]

Didn't you know how DC spends all his Patreon earnings?

• Paying pirate forum white hats (40%)
  • Additional bonus for each posting repeating the same statement (varying)
• Preventing additional artists from job applications (20%)
• Finding reasons to fire developers that work too fast (20%)
• Marking pirate forum posts for deletion (10%)
• Generous revards for finding new tasks delaying tech update completion (10%)
• Baking cookies for himself and his family (5%)
  • No cookies for team members (1% for finding excuses)
• Finding additional income to cover the missing 6% (-6%)

Who broke the NDA and told you?

we know they do it for free which is even more disturbing

Hey, no kink shaming!

 

[KillerBee487]

the abandoned tag isn't for making DC lose money or pressuring him to work faster, it's simply for informing people who come to this thread that the game hasn't gotten any updates in a ridiculous long time

as a good side effect, it also shows how far the game has fallen, summertime saga never had the greatest art or the most amazing story (at least in my opinion) but back when summertime saga started one of the greatest things about it was the transparency of the game development and the reliability of DC to release updates on a frequent basis. that has completly gone obviously.

Man it's funny that WaL got the abandoned tag faster than StS. Hope that changes soon for any of them