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PayneToTheMax

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Feb 4, 2017
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NLT got a lot of shit for genesis order because of the incest stuff. With TON it was really easy to create patches because you could just change the variables but for TGO he decided to not do that and people didn't like it. The game was not as well received as TON or Lust Epidemic.
Why doesn't that surprise me?
But is he still 'reliable' in that he regularly delivers updates, Oedipus complex content notwithstanding?
 

Lavance

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May 5, 2022
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As said, that's happening for years and his numbers even started growing. Tell me, how do you explain his numbers?

Am I really the only one who at times remembers some of the models and in some cases even publishers to find more material for later?

At least I explicitly didn't say that, though. I just said that F95 matters less to SS than it does to most other games around here and that it has significant other sources of attention. And I'd stick to that opinion. There's just no way that tens of millions of views don't lead to an substancial increase in revenue for DC.

Edit: It really doesn't take a lot of people by these standards. He's losing about 3.000 to 4.000 patrons a month, so all he needs is another 3.000 to 4.000 new ones to subscribe.
Dawg... no. I used to be like... a casual pornhub viewer. I don't use porn hub anymore, or any porn websites. Except maybe for this one, BUT. My first introduction to porn games WAS summertime saga... well, actually I think it was bone tales the manor and rick and morty way back home. But that's besides the point.

I was introduced to this game on manly pornhub. That's all... and like... 2 years later, I decided to install the game from f95zone.
I'm basically saying MOST people were introduced to this game from pornhub, basically. Sure, summer time saga have like... other sources of of attention. But pornhub and especially 95zone is one of the MAIN ones and have the biggest influence whenever you like it or not. Just how it is.
 

volumina-90

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Oct 14, 2021
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We're only on page 12 now. Man, I'm disappointed.
One player on PH has more views of their Summertime Saga playthrough videos than this thread has over 8 years of presence on F95. That's just one player on one video site.
While there is a modicum of truth here, the vast majority (well over 90% of the 7 million registered users on the entire of F95 - probably closer to 99%) have never and will never supported any adult game creator on Patreon, Subscribestar or the like.

There are fewer than 600,000 paid subscribers on Patreon who contribute to adult game creators. Every single one would have to also have an account on F95 for us to say that 9% of people on F95 contribute to those creators.

F95 is the target audience for people first starting out to get name and game recognition, and to build a core group of fans... But even then, if a game strikes gold (such as Summertime Saga did) - it outgrows F95's influence.

Turn off personal search settings in your web search engine and do a search for Summertime Saga. I just did on Google and (yuck) Bing. F95 isn't even in the first couple of pages of results. DC's website is. IGN is. Reddit is. The wiki is. YouTube playthrough videos are. Patreon. Uptodown. Amazon. Itchio. TikTok. etc. Once someone sees videos or other items about Summertime Saga somewhere else, when they do a web search for it - they are more likely to go somewhere else than here to learn more.
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Remember, that initial drop each month isn't all "lost" subscribers. A lot of that is from "soft declines" from credit/debit card companies for one reason or another that Patreon tries again later in the month. Subscribers with "hard declines" then also fix their payment situation over the month, as well. That may actually be a lot of that drop/rebuild. Also, under the old system, memberships were renewed on the first of the month for everyone - so "soft declines" and "hard declines" would look higher at the beginning of the month because of those. At some time in the recent past, Patreon moved over to rolling renewals (renewing on the same day of the month the new membership started) - so those dips may decrease over time. You can see the difference with smaller, newer developers and how their numbers fluctuate compared to more established developers.

Seriously. Right? It's inexcusable. But I'm not paying anything for it. And his own attitude is similar. He doesn't give a fuck that people talk shit about him and give him shit, overall. He even states "But at least people can play our game for free, you know... It is what it is. You know, people are gonna complain, but you know."

And so since he sees that he is making the game available for free, he feels he has the ability to manage his game however he wants, in the end.

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It happens every single month. At least be genuine in your argument - or understand how Patreon works before making a ridiculous claim.
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Back when there were people who actually talked about the game - you would find this is not the case. There were several PC players complaining about the 4:3 aspect ratio and the black bars that I responded to. Also, when android is your largest/growing player demographic - it makes sense. Android is the largest gaming platform around the world, and brings in the most (45-55%) of all video gaming dollars, annually.
Why are you shilling this game so hard? What's in it for you? Are you a shareholder of the patreon money or something? Or maybe you just enjoy the pain of waiting an update for more than a year?

I really don't get how you can support this shit at this point.
 

meh1995

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Jul 11, 2023
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From his discord,2 days ago. I don't think its abandoned tho.

When will it come out?
All game developers dread this question, but If testing goes well, we hope to release the first build towards the end of the coming month (May). As always, patrons will have exclusive access to a high speed download ahead of public availability.
Don't trust scammers.
 

PayneToTheMax

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Feb 4, 2017
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Why are you shilling this game so hard? What's in it for you? Are you a shareholder of the patreon money or something? Or maybe you just enjoy the pain of waiting an update for more than a year?

I really don't get how you can support this shit at this point.
Ask one of the forum admins who actually is one of DCs Discord mods instead
 
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j4yj4m

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Jun 19, 2017
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Dawg... no. I used to be like... a casual pornhub viewer. I don't use porn hub anymore, or any porn websites. Except maybe for this one, BUT. My first introduction to porn games WAS summertime saga... well, actually I think it was bone tales the manor and rick and morty way back home. But that's besides the point.

I was introduced to this game on manly pornhub. That's all... and like... 2 years later, I decided to install the game from f95zone.
I'm basically saying MOST people were introduced to this game from pornhub, basically. Sure, summer time saga have like... other sources of of attention. But pornhub and especially 95zone is one of the MAIN ones and have the biggest influence whenever you like it or not. Just how it is.
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You just repeated what I said above and made just the same point I made. Just like I said, a ton of people get to know the game through Pornhub and similar pages. Others are saying that's not the case, claiming that plaforms other than F95 don't matter.
 

Unregistered

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It apparently stems from his old job, where he experienced how someone always hovering doesn't actually help and thus he goes with the laidback approach since, that naturally got to be better.
Oh yeah, it's working out great...

What does "always hovering" mean in this case? Hourly check-ins? Daily stand ups? And similarly, what is a "laidback approach"?
 

PayneToTheMax

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Oh yeah, it's working out great...

What does "always hovering" mean in this case? Hourly check-ins? Daily stand ups? And similarly, what is a "laidback approach"?
Probably a higher up riding his and other people's asses. I don't really know much about what he did before, and I can't say I really cared anyway. But yeah, a project with no one organizing things is equally shit.
 

Quinsy87

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Jul 19, 2017
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hey guys im a newbie here is there any new update ?
No updates in two years. It was just labelled as abandoned and so the creator is actually releasing something to keep the donations rolling in. He makes between $66K - $200K per month rom subscribers, but he gets away with doing nothing.
 

vks017

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Jun 30, 2017
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A lot of those views on pornhub will never download the game. I have used a video from there as a walkthrough before after hearing about the game here first. Whats undeniable is that the abandoned tag has had an effect on the developer. If the deadline was 12 months instead of 18 you could argue more that its a coincidence.

There is some heavy deflection going on here.:sleep:
 
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