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No, if DC used AI, it would take away the one thing he's enjoys most about creating the game... Drawing. And without the one thing that makes the work enjoyable... He would likely stop working on it, leaving it where it sits.

And, on the off chance he actual found using AI okay, it means he could keep adding content as he has stated he wants to do, of several hundred NPCs... And, just like now, the posing and coding would be even more of a bottleneck than it has been for the past 4 years.

It's like people don't even think when they come up with these ideas.
The concept that someone could actually enjoy their work is anathema to many people, particularly AI bros. DC famously has been unable to accept a second artist on the project because he doesn't want to have to fix their work, and since he's currently in the endless process of redrawing old assets it seems like he can't even stand the sight of his own art after a few years.

Why on Earth would people think he'd be okay using an AI to churn out images that he'd immediately be compelled to redraw?
 

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I do think that DC should use AI as a Helping tool and give us the update faster by drawing on the AI gen Images for new scenes while redoing all the old stuff , as i saw in his streams that he usually make her old art as base and then draw over it , and trust me he do really slow , as an Artist myself I was gaslighted on how slow he draw even with a template behind giving him outlines and margins... i was like he might be doing it on purpose, so if he really work that slow , why not use ai to make new sex animations , new interactions , new boobs sizes after pregnancy ?

although in one of his stream he said he is not a fan of AI. i mean why ? AI will out skill anyone anytime even with current level , specially Artist , I do understand that an artist's hand drawn art has a taste and unique style, but AI can replicate it so close too, and if takes so long to hand draw it , DC should at least take help from it and finalize himself...

the less of the lines he draw in his livestream in 1 hour or so , was really a pain to watch , i watched his 3-4 streams to confirm his pace , and i was in pain to see him drawing this slow with temp , not because i am waiting for update , because i draw myself and as an artist if i drew that slow in my classes , i would've be kicked out of there...
Since AI are particularly awful, that will make this game a fucking dumpster fuck.

Just the AI art that we got on this thread show how trash it is.

That will never happen, but if DC decided to do that, it will officially sign the death of the game since a majority of people will stop supporting it and playing it.
 

Lupin the 3rd

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as an "Artist" myself

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i mean why ? AI will out skill anyone anytime even with current level , specially Artist , I do understand that an artist's hand drawn art has a taste and unique style, but AI can replicate it so close too, and if takes so long to hand draw it , DC should at least take help from it and finalize himself...
With such a Mindset, you are a shity Artist. "Artists" who likes Ai shouldn't call themself Artist anymore. Real Artists make their Art themself and wouldn't use Ai. Real Artists would do anything they can to not use Ai for their Art.
 

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Is it worth trying this new build? any new sex scene or story or is it the same from teh old build but on a new engin or something?
Right now, nothing new that's worth it. Too much stuff is missing, some new art and things like that.

I would say you can try it if you want but it's really, really mid right now.:(
 
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The concept that someone could actually enjoy their work is anathema to many people, particularly AI bros. DC famously has been unable to accept a second artist on the project because he doesn't want to have to fix their work, and since he's currently in the endless process of redrawing old assets it seems like he can't even stand the sight of his own art after a few years.

Why on Earth would people think he'd be okay using an AI to churn out images that he'd immediately be compelled to redraw?
word bro, i mean just look at this: disgusting AI art which DC would have to redraw again (can't fap to this)

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vs. DC's custom handdrawn perfection he literally worked on for 7 hours the same day right after he was finished streaming

 
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The concept that someone could actually enjoy their work is anathema to many people, particularly AI bros. DC famously has been unable to accept a second artist on the project because he doesn't want to have to fix their work, and since he's currently in the endless process of redrawing old assets it seems like he can't even stand the sight of his own art after a few years.

Why on Earth would people think he'd be okay using an AI to churn out images that he'd immediately be compelled to redraw?
I heard it somewhere, twitter maybe, where someone really summed it up:

AI enthusiasts see the act of creation as a burden and don't understand how the artist doesn't
 

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word bro, i mean just look at this: disgusting AI art which DC would have to redraw again (can't fap to this)

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vs. DC's custom handdrawn perfection he literally worked on for 7 hours the same day right after he was finished streaming

The fact that you only ever bring up that one scene with Jenny kind of torpedoes your whole argument. You should give more examples.
 

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AI doesn't provide much advantage to DC for the moment. The current quality is perhaps 85% of DC's original work. AI provides an advantage to someone who doesn't know how to draw, as they can suddenly produce images near DC's art quality with no involved skills. It's perfect for fan art.

That being said, the current Summertime Saga AI art that you see around isn't the best that AI can do. The model people are using, Pony trained on sdxl, doesn't follow prompt well. Also, the lora, the part of the model that was trained on Summertime Saga's images, isn't perfect for various reason. Future models, however, will increase the quality of the artwork, including prompt adherence. Eventually, AI images will look authentic and be capable of replacing what DC produces. The same is true with the rest of the game, AI will be capable of generating the story and game itself. At that time, we'll essentially have an infinite Summertime Saga.
 
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The same is true with the rest of the game, AI will be capable of generating the story and game itself. At that time, we'll essentially have an infinite Summertime Saga.
As a college-level English instructor, this may be true several years from now. May.
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From my experience with coding C+ in my youth for IRC chat commands, interfaces, and the like:
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From my experience as a graphic designer and my oldest working toward their degree at one of the top ten art colleges in my country:
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And it's been the coding and the posing of the game which has been the major bottleneck for nearly the past 4 years - not DC drawing the art. We're only seeing Debbie's art revamped at this point because coding and posing is behind and has created an opportunity for DC to focus on this revision. Had coding and posing been able to keep up with the art, we'd be having completely different conversations right now.

In the end, while AI could "speed up" the process - it will still require a lot of human interaction for the content to make sense, be adequate, maintain continuity, and be optimized. Some might think this should mean content could come faster - but what it would likely mean is that developers like DC would have the opportunity to redesign previous work to add in details they wanted in the past, but didn't have time or ability to produce. Also, developers would add in more non-lewd content to make stories more streamlined and cohesive.
quien tiene una partida save
Pregunta en el hilo de guardado enlazado en el primer post.
Ask in the save thread found in OP.

Además, en este foro sólo se habla inglés, con un par de excepciones.
Also, use only English in this forum, with a few exceptions.
 

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This community looks like a dumpster fire! Either way, I'm really confused. I downloaded the game and there's practically zero content. Do I have to download the old version or something?
See the table for comparison to decide which you wish to download:


See this for the news with the last update at the end of November:


Here's my FAQ, last revised at the beginning of this month:
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