Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.6440] [Kompas Productions]

[Maulis47]

This is pretty much true.

The tech update was going to happen. It needed to happen because the coding (not RenPy - but the coding for Summertime Saga to run in RenPy) was frankensteined barely holding together. Like Scotty said in Star Trek "She can't take much more, Cap'n!"

The last choice for subscribers to vote on was which was to come first:
Rhonda update, or
Tech update

Had anyone actually figured it would take anywhere near this long, they probably would have voted for Rhonda.
Ether way, we'd be right where we are now. Just with a Rhonda update before it.

Yup, you can't avoid the inevitable just decide when it happens if you prepare.

 

[SickleLove]

This is pretty much true.

The tech update was going to happen. It needed to happen because the coding (not RenPy - but the coding for Summertime Saga to run in RenPy) was frankensteined barely holding together. Like Scotty said in Star Trek "She can't take much more, Cap'n!"

The last choice for subscribers to vote on was which was to come first:
Rhonda update, or
Tech update

Had anyone actually figured it would take anywhere near this long, they probably would have voted for Rhonda.
Ether way, we'd be right where we are now. Just with a Rhonda update before it.

Regarding all of this... can we be sure the next updates will happen faster and smoother with DC so he can concentrate on the art/animation for upcoming contents?

 

[Count Morado]

Regarding all of this... can we be sure the next updates will happen faster and smoother with DC so he can concentrate on the art/animation for upcoming contents?

No.
Also, "faster updates" was not a stated goal in the list.
Also, also, art/animation isn't what has been bottlenecking the development for the past 5 years.
Also, also, also, if you are a subscriber (which I am not) and you are doing so simply because you believe it will make updates faster, you should stop subscribing or at least come to terms with the fact that may never happen.
If you are not a subscriber (like me), then we should find other things to do with our time while we wait.

Also, right now they are updating every 2 months. You want it faster? No. What you want is more in less time... That won't happen ever.

 

[hotcoco8888]

very hot game

 

[PayneToTheMax]

Regarding all of this... can we be sure the next updates will happen faster and smoother with DC so he can concentrate on the art/animation for upcoming contents?

We have relatively 'steady' updates now. Quality of updates being debatable, but so far they haven't broken the 2 month rule.

 

[Healthalete]

Got an error after making out with Debbie in the car after going to the mall. Could this cause any issues? I feel like I am stuck on Debbie's progress.

```
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/src/loop.rpy", line 11, in <module>
ValueError: conflicts with plan for saga.cast.anon

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "src/loop.rpyc", line 2, in script call
File "src/loop.rpyc", line 11, in script
File "renpy/ast.py", line 827, in execute
File "renpy/python.py", line 1178, in py_exec_bytecode
File "game/src/loop.rpy", line 11, in <module>
File "game/saga/event.py", line 113, in next
File "game/saga/logic/deb_mall.py", line 79, in debbie
File "game/saga/logic/util.py", line 395, in res
File "game/saga/logic/util.py", line 364, in claim
File "game/saga/plan.py", line 51, in __lshift__
ValueError: conflicts with plan for saga.cast.anon

Windows-10-10.0.26100 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.3.4.24120703
Summertime Saga 21.0.0-wip.5595
Sun Feb 9 00:12:57 2025
```

 

[Count Morado]

Got an error after making out with Debbie in the car after going to the mall. Could this cause any issues? I feel like I am stuck on Debbie's progress.

```
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/src/loop.rpy", line 11, in <module>
ValueError: conflicts with plan for saga.cast.anon

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "src/loop.rpyc", line 2, in script call
File "src/loop.rpyc", line 11, in script
File "renpy/ast.py", line 827, in execute
File "renpy/python.py", line 1178, in py_exec_bytecode
File "game/src/loop.rpy", line 11, in <module>
File "game/saga/event.py", line 113, in next
File "game/saga/logic/deb_mall.py", line 79, in debbie
File "game/saga/logic/util.py", line 395, in res
File "game/saga/logic/util.py", line 364, in claim
File "game/saga/plan.py", line 51, in __lshift__
ValueError: conflicts with plan for saga.cast.anon

Windows-10-10.0.26100 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.3.4.24120703
Summertime Saga 21.0.0-wip.5595
Sun Feb 9 00:12:57 2025
```

Well, you're playing a version with known bugs. So probably.

You're playing wip.5595, the latest is wip.5605. download that and try again.

Also, remember that Debbie's route isn't fully migrated in wip.5605.

 

[Sherengroth]

I'm wondering will there be be any sorta interaction with the little bastards when they're born you know a cutscene or two of them talking to the babies, changing a diaper or something to show the mc isn't a deadbeat useless father.(and those of you who are upset of my words, the actual term for bastard is anyone who was birthed while both parents were not married to each other.)

 

[WhiteWolf35Uk]

The pre-tech version has a lot more content than the newest version.

the best version of this game with more content is the old one, v20.06 or v20.15

 

[Balddog]

What DC should have been doing is just focus on creating new content. Then once the game is basically done, go back and polish things up. But that requires him to care.

 

[PTdesu]

Just here to see what people thought about the Update and it was pretty much what i expected.
Disappointed that he couldn't finish her route yet, but whatever, i'll just wait for next update and see.
I would also like to drop a like to the haters or people with a DC vendetta for keeping this Thread going, you guys are doing Gods work.

I'll probably drop by next update and repeat the process , unless MH:Wilds keeps me really busy
Also, there are plenty of other games out there, both ero or otherwise, just saying.

 

[Gmind]

Had this occur while talking with Diane while she is drinking (first time occurrence of her drinking?) Happened immediately after she called the MC her favorite nephew.

Running 20.16 (Pre-Tech) with Naughty Tribute Mod + Game Overrides and the .

Spoiler: BBC Code

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

 

[vks017]

This is pretty much true.

The tech update was going to happen. It needed to happen because the coding (not RenPy - but the coding for Summertime Saga to run in RenPy) was frankensteined barely holding together. Like Scotty said in Star Trek "She can't take much more, Cap'n!"

The last choice for subscribers to vote on was which was to come first:
Rhonda update, or
Tech update

Had anyone actually figured it would take anywhere near this long, they probably would have voted for Rhonda.
Ether way, we'd be right where we are now. Just with a Rhonda update before it.

In hindsight the best choice would have been to wrap up this game with that frankensteined code
I am sure they could have made it work long enough for that.
Then start on a sequel, I am struggling to see the 3-6 years effort is worth it. They could have wrapped up the game in a satisfying way by now.
This is some of the worse project management I have ever seen.

 

[Count Morado]

In hindsight the best choice would have been to wrap up this game with that frankensteined code
I am sure they could have made it work long enough for that.

They literally had that conversation - and no. With the state of the code that it was in, they could not put more shit into it without it falling apart. They could not complete the dance goal with the old code. So, no.

I am struggling to see the 3-6 years effort is worth it.

Well, seeing as their subscriber numbers are growing, and haven't really ever tanked --- your vision appears to be as short-sighted as DC's with his ability to project manage.

They could have wrapped up the game in a satisfying way by now.

See my first response to your post. It wouldn't have happened. It couldn't.

This is some of the worse project management I have ever seen.

I would agree this is very shoddy project management. DC's probably wouldn't argue much, either.

edit: If you haven't read the following posts previously, I recommend perusing: https://f95zone.to/search/452969658/?q=code&t=post&c[thread]=276&c[users]=Username7&o=date

 

[jvonschantz]

In hindsight the best choice would have been to wrap up this game with that frankensteined code
I am sure they could have made it work long enough for that.
Then start on a sequel, I am struggling to see the 3-6 years effort is worth it. They could have wrapped up the game in a satisfying way by now.
This is some of the worse project management I have ever seen.

DC said at some point that act1 was already completed. so the obvious thing should have been to finish, and from there start with act 2. With the necessary updates not the mess it is now. Going from a bad coder to an exceptionally slow one is not exactly good management.

That he will never finish the project is less of a concern, I see it more like your favorite show on Netflix. As long as it is successful, there will be new episodes. He just uses a foundation to tell different stories, scenarios and their context. And as I said, the first story is already (probably) finished.

 

[Count Morado]

That he will never finish the project is less of a concern, I see it more like your favorite show on Netflix. As long as it is successful, there will be new episodes. He just uses a foundation to tell different stories, scenarios and their context.

Exactly.

There is a current trend by developers that are creating these titles in a similar manner as episodic series as seen on TV/Cable/Netflix -- as long as there is enough audience interest and as long as the production team has the drive to keep developing, it is not inconceivable that a number of the titles could end up with 20+ years of content.

 

[MisterMeh]

I would agree this is very shoddy project management. DC's probably wouldn't argue much, either.

edit: If you haven't read the following posts previously, I recommend perusing: https://f95zone.to/search/452969658/?q=code&t=post&c[thread]=276&c[users]=Username7&o=date

This.

One of the problems DC is also having that he either doesn't seem to realize or hasn't figured out how to fix in a timely manner, is the fact that he's not reintegrating already finished work efficiently. AFAIK, there are even scenes that were finished from Debbie's last update that are missing from the current one. One of those examples is the sex scene in the kitchen.

Then you have other completed scenes like the threesome from Debbie and Diane from her storyline, plus the entire storyline of Eve, the storylines from Tony and Maria tied to the main story, the majority of Roxxy's story that includes the Becca update. I'm sure there's more but you get the point.

All of this makes it look like he's not getting the work done when there's so much locked away.

 

[Fat McNuggets]

Incest Patch for the latest update (WIP 5605) and the Pre-Tech Version (0.20.16)

This is a patch that reverts back the relationship of the characters to how it was before the change in Patreon policy.

Why use this patch?
Much more comprehensive list of changes to dialogue. I checked almost every line of dialogue and made sure it flowed correctly. This is not just a simple name change for the characters, but whole blocks of lines are back to their 14.5 version of the game (the last version that has incest). New dialogue written for this tech update also were taken into consideration since DarkCookie is adding new story beats. I'll try to make the dialogue conform to their familial relationship as much as possible. I also modified the art asset to fit the new widescreen resolution of the game, and will continue doing so as needed.


What about other incest patches out there?
outdated and shouldn't be used. Lots of text bugs and not made for the latest pre-tech version.

is not compatible with my patch. It hasn't been updated in a while and all the changes that patch offers is also included in my patch.

Relation Tweaker Mod is not compatible with my patch. However, I recommend using this one instead if you want to customize the relationship between characters. This patch allows step relations or mixed step/incest relations. It works with the new tech update only.

Relation Tweaker Lewd+ is standalone and should work with any incest patch/mod. It works with the new tech update only.


Installation:
Pick only one ipatch file!


Place the RPA file on the game folder.

Spoiler: Changelog

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

Credits:
This patch is inspired and modified from the previous uploads that came before it. Special thanks to Scarlet Ashbringer, Sothyr and Xaverion for their previous work on a patch. And to raschi for helping me with some questions on how to develop this patch!

Updated the patch for WIP 5605.

Bunch of new dialogues reworked.

 

[Count Morado]

will delete if not

From: https://f95zone.to/threads/general-rules-updated-2025-01-29.5589/
Go here: Recommendations & Identification

 

[Lupin the 3rd]

What DC should have been doing is just focus on creating new content. Then once the game is basically done, go back and polish things up. But that requires him to care.

No, the scenario you mentioned now is the "he don't care" Scenario.
How many times do you need to be reminded? The Code from the old Version is just a buggy mess, it was highly time to make the Tech Update. Every new Content Update made the Situation worse. It's NOT a Renpy Problem, the Problem was that one of the OLD Coders was an Idiot and messed this Game up big.

Your Suggestion here would have made the situation even more worse.