Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.6011] [Kompas Productions]

[Deleted member 239654]

If DC is having trouble getting things ready and out on time why not hire some people or get some enthusiastic fan boys/girls to help with stuff like coding and proofreading or testing

Because he is milking every penny he can from updates. It’s why I stopped being a patron, great game and amazing art, does a great job but questionable work ethic. Idk it whatever now considering not paying anymore so it doesn’t bother me as much, I just chill and wait for the updates now. Only thing that sucks is I can’t vote anymore for the content

 

[Drill Sergeant]

There are some descriptions around in this thread. You can install my mod (see signature), it enables the console among other things.

I am using your mod. Its great work. So when the update drops can i play it with your mod(opd version of the mod)? Like is your mod for all versions or do you update the mod as new updates drop by? Thanks

 

[ShinigamiEX]

Thanks man. Installed it and seems to be working. Let's hope it goes well.

I was playing the game it was working fine. But when I encountered the Eve for the first time in park. I get an error when the three dudes come right after Eve shows her drawing of her sister as super girl. Tho I was able to ignore it but it warned me there might be future problem with this.
The error is:

While loading <'Image' 'characters/anon/can.png'>:
  File "game/scripts/characters/eve/button.rpy", line 20, in script call
    call expression game.dialog_select("eve_button_park_hangout")
  File "game/scripts/characters/eve/button_dialogues.rpy", line 3809, in script
    call screen flying_can
  File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 531, in execute_call_screen
    store._return = renpy.call_screen(name, *args, **kwargs)
  File "game/scripts/TributeModImages.rpy", line 111, in render
    can_render = renpy.render(Transform(self.can, zoom=self.z), width, height, st, at)
IOError: Couldn't find file 'characters/anon/can.png'.

I have the files in respective folder. I am playing on a linux distro. I checked for file permission it was set to read and write, so no problem there.

 

[srksrk 68]

I am using your mod. Its great work. So when the update drops can i play it with your mod(opd version of the mod)? Like is your mod for all versions or do you update the mod as new updates drop by? Thanks

Unfortunately, it will take some time to make it work with the new version. Expect it to take about three days for the mod to work as in previous release, only then I can adapt the new content.

I was playing the game it was working fine. But when I encountered the Eve for the first time in park. I get an error when the three dudes come right after Eve shows her drawing of her sister as super girl. Tho I was able to ignore it but it warned me there might be future problem with this.
The error is:

While loading <'Image' 'characters/anon/can.png'>:
  File "game/scripts/characters/eve/button.rpy", line 20, in script call
    call expression game.dialog_select("eve_button_park_hangout")
  File "game/scripts/characters/eve/button_dialogues.rpy", line 3809, in script
    call screen flying_can
  File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 531, in execute_call_screen
    store._return = renpy.call_screen(name, *args, **kwargs)
  File "game/scripts/TributeModImages.rpy", line 111, in render
    can_render = renpy.render(Transform(self.can, zoom=self.z), width, height, st, at)
IOError: Couldn't find file 'characters/anon/can.png'.

I have the files in respective folder. I am playing on a linux distro. I checked for file permission it was set to read and write, so no problem there.

Can you attach a save file here? However, I fear I cannot support linux as I don't have it.

 

[ShinigamiEX]

Unfortunately, it will take some time to make it work with the new version. Expect it to take about three days for the mod to work as in previous release, only then I can adapt the new content.

Can you attach a save file here? However, I fear I cannot support linux as I don't have it.

Please try this save and try to access the computer in the room. I have fixed it, when I try to log in getting an error and I can't ignore it this time anymore. I have extracted your mod in the Summertime/game folder. All the resources are there.
Erro:

  File "/media/Woooo/Summer_mod/renpy/loader.py", line 576, in load
    raise IOError("Couldn't find file '%s'." % name)
IOError: Couldn't find file 'backgrounds/computer_no_nude.png'.

While loading <'Image' u'backgrounds/computer_no_nude.png'>:
  File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 531, in execute_call_screen
    store._return = renpy.call_screen(name, *args, **kwargs)
IOError: Couldn't find file 'backgrounds/computer_no_nude.png'.

 

[McSlut]

any chance dc changes his opinion and does rhonda next instead of another story update? the thing that killed it for me is that the story updates took longer than planned which is fine but i just hate how it's been just side characters for a year. if he squeezed rhonda in between the next story update that'd be a nice change of pace. i don't see people jumping up and down from exciitement if he keeps working on the rump family after this update for another couple months.

 

[jowishg]

Because he is milking every penny he can from updates. It’s why I stopped being a patron, great game and amazing art, does a great job but questionable work ethic. Idk it whatever now considering not paying anymore so it doesn’t bother me as much, I just chill and wait for the updates now. Only thing that sucks is I can’t vote anymore for the content

Funny how you manage to put together "great game and amazing art" with "milking"

 

[tankdick]

Funny how you manage to put together "great game and amazing art" with "milking"

Funny how you can't process those can be mutually exclusive.

 

[srksrk 68]

Please try this save and try to access the computer in the room. I have fixed it, when I try to log in getting an error and I can't ignore it this time anymore. I have extracted your mod in the Summertime/game folder. All the resources are there.
Erro:

  File "/media/Woooo/Summer_mod/renpy/loader.py", line 576, in load
    raise IOError("Couldn't find file '%s'." % name)
IOError: Couldn't find file 'backgrounds/computer_no_nude.png'.

While loading <'Image' u'backgrounds/computer_no_nude.png'>:
  File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 531, in execute_call_screen
    store._return = renpy.call_screen(name, *args, **kwargs)
IOError: Couldn't find file 'backgrounds/computer_no_nude.png'.

Please open the console (SHIFT+O) and type:

config.searchpath

Do you see the game folder in the output? The one containing the images folder? It should look something like:

[<...some paths to optional content, if any>,
'<summertime folder>/game',
'<summertime folder>'/renpy/common']

If it does look like that, try disable the optional content in the configuration UI (parameter NO_OVERRIDES), start the game again and see if that helps. Check the searchpath again to be sure that no optional content is in the list.
Also, if the problem persists, we should move this discussion to the Mod's thread.

 

[GrumpyMatt]

If DC is having trouble getting things ready and out on time why not hire some people or get some enthusiastic fan boys/girls to help with stuff like coding and proofreading or testing

Its not about making things done, bur about getting money. Have you noticed how he is relasing new update always few days after new month starts, when Patreon payments come in?

 

[Omnikuken]

I see the tinfoil hatery is back in force, good thing the last thread purge was 3 days ago, it might not entice people to go batshit crazy with theories

 

[srksrk 68]

Its not about making things done, bur about getting money. Have you noticed how he is relasing new update always few days after new month starts, when Patreon payments come in?

Nobody has noticed that, because it's a lie.

0.20.1: May 5th 2020 (main story) -> 5+ months
0.19.5: December 20th 2019 (Consuela) -> 2 months
0.19.1: October 19th 2019 (Eve) -> 4.5 months
0.18.5: June 4th 2019 (Jenny 2) -> 1 month
0.18.0: May 2nd 2019 (Jenny) -> 4.5 months
0.17.5: Dec 16th 2018 (Daisy) -> 1- month
0.17.0: Nov 23rd 2018 (Diane) -> 4 months
0.16.0: July 25th 2018 (Roxxy) -> 3+ months
0.15.1: April 15th 2018 (teachers) -> 4 months
0.14.5: December 19th 2017 (Debbie) -> 1.5 months
0.14.3: November 1st 2017 (Aqua) -> 0.5 months
0.14: October 13th 2017 (Mia) -> 2- months
0.13: August 21st 2017 (Erik)

Now what?

Edit: and before you now continue your rant that update cycles got slower -- yes, they did. But DC said they would.

 

[Badjourasmix]

Nobody has noticed that, because it's a lie.

0.20.1: May 5th 2020 (main story) -> 5+ months
0.19.5: December 20th 2019 (Consuela) -> 2 months
0.19.1: October 19th 2019 (Eve) -> 4.5 months
0.18.5: June 4th 2019 (Jenny 2) -> 1 month
0.18.0: May 2nd 2019 (Jenny) -> 4.5 months
0.17.5: Dec 16th 2018 (Daisy) -> 1- month
0.17.0: Nov 23rd 2018 (Diane) -> 4 months
0.16.0: July 25th 2018 (Roxxy) -> 3+ months
0.15.1: April 15th 2018 (teachers) -> 4 months
0.14.5: December 19th 2017 (Debbie) -> 1.5 months
0.14.3: November 1st 2017 (Aqua) -> 0.5 months
0.14: October 13th 2017 (Mia) -> 2- months
0.13: August 21st 2017 (Erik)

Now what?

It doesn't really matter how many times you post that, people will believe what they want to believe.

 

[srksrk 68]

It doesn't really matter how many times you post that, people will believe what they want to believe.

You are so right.

Maybe this should be put in the first post. But nobody reads that either.

 

[dikinepancos]

By focusing on a character like Annie you can turn them into characters with a good story. That's the whole point of updating them. There was a point when Roxxy was some stupid side character with 'roughly zero impact on the story', and the Roxxy update was, imo, the best update to the game by far.

bro Roxxy is literally on the logo since the beginning of the development. she was the main characther

 

[otranu]

why not hire some people or get some enthusiastic fan boys/girls to help with stuff like coding and proofreading or testing

really, some people live in candyland.
I understand that not everyone has managed or at least participate in such a big project , but really people think that you can bring 10 people to code a game, and that will make the game develop faster?
People is naive af

Because he is milking every penny he can from updates. It’s why I stopped being a patron, great game and amazing art, does a great job but questionable work ethic. Idk it whatever now considering not paying anymore so it doesn’t bother me as much, I just chill and wait for the updates now. Only thing that sucks is I can’t vote anymore for the content

You can see he working every weekday in stream, and if you are a patreon you have a detailed list of things to do.
Apart from all that , THE GAME IS FREE.
I dont really see the "questionable work ethic" you're talking about.
What i can see is someone really upset because he doesnt understand how developing a game works and he cant have his porn game fast enough.

 

[lolgotem]

really, some people live in candyland.
I understand that not everyone has managed or at least participate in such a big project , but really people think that you can bring 10 people to code a game, and that will make the game develop faster?
People is naive af

I wouldn't have a job if the world worked that way.

If an enterprise doesn't possess the flexibility, workforce, methodology, or time to complete a process as part of a project, do you know what they do? They hire contractors. I contract for a living. I come in, do a thing, and leave when it's finished. Rinse and repeat, that's my role.

The fact that this update is taking upwards of ~100% longer than the original estimate should be proof enough that he's drowning and from a project management perspective there's either a breakdown in planning or productivity that needs to be addressed.

Both would be fixed by hiring on competent temporary hands.

I would understand if Cookie was in the same position as indie devs who largely have to finance their own projects OOP before they earn their big payout, but he's pulling in ~60k/mo off Patreon alone.

There is no logical argument to be made for why he refuses to hire on additional help when it's clearly needed.

I know this place is pretty much a cult and this entire post will be slandered and misrepresented but I still felt this needs to be said and I would say most of the popular VNs have a similar issue.

 

[papasmurf]

holy shit

23,760
patrons
$62,899
per month


Jesus Christ

 

[cadwaladr]

I wouldn't have a job if the world worked that way.

If an enterprise doesn't possess the flexibility, workforce, methodology, or time to complete a process as part of a project, do you know what they do? They hire contractors. I contract for a living. I come in, do a thing, and leave when it's finished. Rinse and repeat, that's my role.

The fact that this update is taking upwards of ~100% longer than the original estimate should be proof enough that he's drowning and from a project management perspective there's either a breakdown in planning or productivity that needs to be addressed.

Both would be fixed by hiring on competent temporary hands.

I would understand if Cookie was in the same position as indie devs who largely have to finance their own projects OOP before they earn their big payout, but he's pulling in ~60k/mo off Patreon alone.

There is no logical argument to be made for why he refuses to hire on additional help when it's clearly needed.

I know this place is pretty much a cult and this entire post will be slandered and misrepresented but I still felt this needs to be said and I would say most of the popular VNs have a similar issue.

You're not allowed to point out that the emperor is terrible at project managing. I have for a while and all you get is vitriol despite it being blatantly obvious.

As you say, this update is taking twice the amount of time it was estimated to take. That means a 4 month project turns into an 8 month project. Usually this is avoided because going over time = going over budget. Not with patreon, hence the accusations of milking. He's not milking in the way Gumdrop or ICSTOR are milking, but he is milking because there is no pressure of a deadline.

But those of us who actually have project management experience, those of us who have contract work experience, those of us who have experience working to deadlines are quite clearly wrong because DC!!! He streams, you know!? The game is free you know?!!11!

We bring this up because at the rate DC is going the game will never be finished and he will have extracted millions of dollars for an abandoned game. Contentment breeds laziness. DC has become lazy.

 

[2xjj]

I wouldn't have a job if the world worked that way.

If an enterprise doesn't possess the flexibility, workforce, methodology, or time to complete a process as part of a project, do you know what they do? They hire contractors. I contract for a living. I come in, do a thing, and leave when it's finished. Rinse and repeat, that's my role.

The fact that this update is taking upwards of ~100% longer than the original estimate should be proof enough that he's drowning and from a project management perspective there's either a breakdown in planning or productivity that needs to be addressed.

Both would be fixed by hiring on competent temporary hands.

I would understand if Cookie was in the same position as indie devs who largely have to finance their own projects OOP before they earn their big payout, but he's pulling in ~60k/mo off Patreon alone.

There is no logical argument to be made for why he refuses to hire on additional help when it's clearly needed.

I know this place is pretty much a cult and this entire post will be slandered and misrepresented but I still felt this needs to be said and I would say most of the popular VNs have a similar issue.

Man this forum is just full of experts in game development project management