LordMerek

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thats not what i wrote read my sentence again. I said he is streaming around 2 hours to show what he is currently working on he sometimes also asks the viewers for opinions.

Edit: And does it matter if he earns 70k or nothing? At the end its his project and its independent work people should subscribe on patreon to support his work but not to expect that he is going to work more on his game.
However as I said in my previous post if people are unhappy with the current progression of the game story they can unsubscribe till the tech update is out after that they will push a lot of new content. People also don't know how hard it can be to rewrite a codebase especially if its not written by you and if he is redrawing most of the stuff he released since game release you can't expect to redraw an art collection since 5-6years to be done in 1 month
Well the good thing about the developer is he does consistently put out content on a schedule and it's rare that schedule isn't met. So while he definitely can put out more in an update, he probably adheres to the schedule to keep his current number of patrons high. So ethically a business model as opposed to a scam. Still kinda scummy, but legit.
 
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elstupidwolf

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Whenever you put your work out for others, you have every right to criticize that work. Paying for an artist/ tipping the artist, does not give you a "RIGHT" to whine, nor does it do anything else than YOU giving money.

This form of entitlement in any way of form is plain stupid. All I had to say to you, and anyone else who thinks that way. Lmao "If you at one point given some money, you can complain".

Shut the hell up dude. Seriously. If you don't see how dumb that is, you have no right to think. That work for you? Fit into your rule-book?
What?

So, you pay someone for a service/good & it takes forever but you can't complain?
That's... Not how life work
 

LordMerek

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What?

So, you pay someone for a service/good & it takes forever but you can't complain?
That's... Not how life work
That's not what he was saying. He was saying EVERYONE should be able to complain, in response to the idiot misinformed interloper who said only people who donate to the patreon have a right to complain.
 

LordMerek

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Oh my bad....
Yeah no, everybody should complain if it's justified..
Like here, it takes forever
I agree. Complaining for the sake of complaining shouldn't be a thing, but unfortunately here in this thread it's festered like a disease, or a swollen pimple. So it's hard to see who isn't pouring gasoline on the fire.
 

LordMerek

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And of course everyone has a right to criticism, Devs use feedback to improve
Sure, but sometimes developers ignores even the most constructive of feedback. I have no idea if these developers are sinking that boat or not.
 
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Hero1

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So, you pay someone for a service/good & it takes forever but you can't complain?
There is no payment for a service or good. Nobody buys or rents or leases the game from DarkCookie. The game is free. Everybody gets access to it. The only slight caveat is that the paying patrons get the version about 24 hours earlier then anybody else. But it is exactly the same version. No "Patreon only" features or codes. No tier system like "Tier 3: get the newest version 3 months bevore everybody else" etc.
So you can't pay for the game. Which means no exchange of services or goods. The only thing you can do is donate money to DarkCookie to keep making the game.
Huge difference.
 

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hey guys is your game acting strange when you use incest patch...like the background fades for a nanosecond and comes back
 

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I agree. Complaining for the sake of complaining shouldn't be a thing, but unfortunately here in this thread it's festered like a disease, or a swollen pimple. So it's hard to see who isn't pouring gasoline on the fire.
My issue has always been that most people who claim they are criticizing the content of the game itself ulitmately just complain about the money DC is making and won't even mention anything beyond that. Then again, that's been going on for more than 3 years now and I wouldn't be surprised if some here will actually continue to write the same stuff again and again for the next years, too.
 
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I liked the scenes this time except the hentai movie, nice quick scene update while waiting for the main one. Would be nice if it was like this for all updates and we could get like alternative outfits or smth while waiting for an update. I for one don't base my entire life and schedule around the releases of porn games so reading this thread and seeing people melt down over this game over and over is amusing af.
 

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People have right to critic for game, this game gain more htna 80000 dolar each month, there is tons of game constantly get update, being white knight only harm people that love this game.
Everyone has the right to write a critic for a game they are playing. You however do not write critic you just mad DC makes money and then stop continuing to argue a point how more money makes workflow go faster. Cause assuming your logic is that more money means faster workflow or results i will toss money at my wife so the hungarian gluasch is done faster.

Yes there is tons of games that constantly get faster updates but you fail to see the reasons for that so let me help you a bit.

1. What do those devs use? Bought or shared assets for DAZ3D models and backgrounds? Or do they handdraw everything on their own?
2. Do those devs have a team working for them or are they a solo project?
3. Is the gameplay and art style on par with DC's work and the general work of Summertime Saga? Or not?
4. How many hours of content do those games have and does it have story paths or just linear storyline?
5. How much money do those devs make exactly? The ones with 50k+ per month who toss out an update every few weeks. And please name them all.
6. Are the games free (like this one) by devs decision or behind a patreon paywall (also by dev decision) and we can only enjoy them cause a user is sharing them with us?

Yes white knighting is bad except when the arguments against a dev or a game are the same debunked BS for over 4 years now.
Bad mouthing with no substance however is also bad when all we see is money being made and not what exactly lands on the bank account after taxes and salaries and other deductions. We don't know how much money at the end of the month lands on the bank account of DC and we never will.
But constantly assuming the amount we see is the amount he has avaliable is just completely ridiculous.
 
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