Ren'Py - Sweet Affection [v0.10.6] [Naughty Attic Gaming]

Review as of v0.10.6

Ima be brief. The game is really good, but REALLY slow. All of the characters I really want content with have none and/or are incomplete (been 6 years man come on). Features are still WIP after 6 years.

There is wwwaaaaaayyyyy too much hugging and crying. Way too much. There is an excessive amount of hugging and crying. If hugging and crying were the same as the population of ants on our planet, that's how many scenes involve both. It was fine on some scenes. Needed even. But it's just overkill at this point.

There should be a premature ejaculation tag because homie can't keep it in for more than negative 2 seconds without ejaculating. Scene be like "Hey mom I got it in". Two sentences later he cums. For the amount of sex this guy has you'd assume that he'd build up some resilience. Nah. Man lets it out faster than the Flash.

TL; DR: This game feels like reading through an essay that was padded to make the page count minimum.

Details:
The game is pretty well done. The art assets are fine. I like the idea of non-corruption generally wholesome relationship building.

But sweet monkey jeebus the repetition of dialog, specifically non-verbal cues throughout the game makes it nearly impossible to sit through, much less enjoy.

My prime example is the sheer volume of "*Smiles*/*smiles*" in the game.

A quick search through the rpy files shows that is is written out in dialog no less than 23,800 times!!!!
If people knee-jerk smiled at the end of nearly every sentence like this game would lead you to believe, you would run away from the obvious serial killers in the room.

Get an editor in on this project. Severely cull the non-verbal cues, and tighten up the dialog in general to make it flow better and not feel like copy/paste bloat. The game will be much better overall if it was sent through several rounds of revisions and culling of redundant dialog sections.

The game in question presents a highly wearisome experience, with dialogue that tends to repetitively surface across an array of tedious scenes. The protagonist is perpetually apologizing for insignificant misunderstandings, while all female characters are stereotypically saddled with some form of irrational issue and an unfounded lack of self-confidence. This narrative structure can be exhausting for players, potentially limiting the game's broad appeal.

version 0.10.6

Ratings:
Start of the game and first updates (1st half) = 4 stars
Current situation (game getting boring and repetitive) = 2 stars

=> OVERALL rating: imho 3 stars

In detail:
What started to be a great game, turned into a bad one (NOT saying that it's a bad game in general overall-> more like the recent content over the last few updates is "bad"). It's way to repetitive. Of course Mom and Sis are main Li, but there is a point where it gets more boring than interesting. Instead of including all the side characters and get some variety, every update feels the same.:
MC fucks mom - MC fucks sister - endless senseless dialogues - repeat.
Every new scene is worn out and has been there multiple times before, even the used renders fell like seen before hundred times and being simply re-used.
There has been a time where it was worth to play new updates asap, but it turned into a boring rinse-and-repeat. This is ongoing for several updates right now, and the point is reached where you just get the FEELING that the dev only wants this going on for the sake of it, and stretches the game as much as possible without any new ideas. I know the dev, and it's not like that, but still the feeling is there.

The Low quality version of this game is 7GB........

Dude. There is WAY too much fucking dialogue in this for a sex game. If the developer focused less on writing and more on actual gameplay, it would mean less images, therefore reduce unnecessary file size. It's as though they're trying write a book. The dev needs to think: Quality vs. Quantity. For what good exists in this game it is not worth reading essays of pointless dialogue, we want to play a game, not read a book. Maybe the dev should consider writing graphic novel?? Would make more sense.

Story is good especially with the side characters
The side characters story is actually better then the story with your mom and sister
Grind is not so bad forthe mom and sister you can just cheat the stats in game to the latest content
Lot of characters
lot of sex scenes from you're own grandma to classmates and teachers of your sister and colleagues of your mom
Concept of the game is good
no bugs
renders are good
Only thing i don't like that there is some side characters wich still have no sex scenes But talk about doing it
Would love to see more updates about side characters

This has been out for almost 6 years now and has little to show for it.

Definition of grindfest....many scenes take 200-300 clicks to finish the conversation. Would certainly help if they used more than 1 short sentence per text box.

MC is a real sleezeball who tells a girl she is the most important thing in the world to him..etc.. then turns around and says the same thing to the next girl in the room, then promises the same to the girls next door and wants to move in with them, then goes to the bar and tells the girl there that he doesn't have anyone special and isn't in a relationship. Unfortunately you can't change that behavior as there aren't any choices...you just have to do that with every girl in Sweet Affection.

When you 'finish' a scene and go to a different room, everyone acts like it's a new day and they haven't seen you before. ie...you can have a scene/convo w your mom in the bedroom, but goto the kitchen and she acts like you just came home...

Gas station, no content added yet..... after 6 years?
The other few places you can access have very minimal content.
Phone still under development?....after 6 years?

Graphics are very entry level and very amateurish. It should have improved in the last 6yrs....
Still bright and sunny at the beach at 10pm.
Not very many locations to access.

Characters are terrible looking and just the same old boring stock images many other games use.
Movements/animations look weird and gross....like when kissing.

Finally, there's NO WAY this game should be over 20Gb in size..... 7 or 8Gb for the compressed version...
Just insane.....

Befor I get started, I just want to make a statement, that I'm here to look for some games to fap with. So you can consider me a desperate fapper.
Now let's talk about this game. It's got amazing size, which can make people like me think this game is promising. However, the quality of the pics are excesively high, I dont know if it's of 4k cuz I do not have a monitor good enough. And out of the hundreds of scenes this game provides, you have got only few sex scnenes (I'm not into foreplay scenes so I dont take them as sex scenes). And most of the scenes you can enjoy, are those kissing scenes. And you can have tons of text to read.
I mean, Im here to find a game to fap with, and sorry I just fapped my brain out so I lost my ability to read too much, but does a game really need so many dialogue to be a good one?
Plus, accroding to some lines I've read with my tiny brain left, girls in this game just meet the MC and they got a feeling on him. Really? I've only read this kind of plot in some games where the MCs have the power of a inccubus or a succbus is helping them out.
Not a good game to fap with imo.

This had potential to be 5 stars but man it has issues that could drag it down to 2 tbh so lets see why?

Pros-

• Pretty good renders.
• Wide range of women to enjoy
• Most of the women have many scenes
• Good variety in types of scenes
• A fun camera texting feature for more content
• The money grind is easy to overcome early on
• Theres easy to access guides to find new scenes

This is pretty much all you need for a 5 star game. BUT unfortunately we are dragged down by

• WALLS of text. Like my man, we do not need an essay to read for a simple conversation
• Walls of text
• walls of text
• walls of text

Another minor issue is the time system. What I mean is there is an hourly clock which moves the NPCs to different location, gives different dialogues with different scenes. It makes it a bit tedious to see them all and to revisit scenes. Imagine saying oh I loved the cowgirl scene for character x, gotta go at 8pm to catch it.oh no it was only available at 7pm, now I only get the doggy scene. Just simplify it to morning, afternoon, night maybe with a few more for early, late. For each time of day give us the clear choice of what we see and you can make it so much easier for everyone.

I have only have 2 words to describe this game... Boring Grindfest. The only saving grace of this game are some of the models, but that's it. Generic music, generic boring animations and no sound effects make it even more boring. I can understand the dev wants a buildup of relations, but with the MC being a complete simp acting like a 12 year old seeing boobs for the first time is even worse.

The dialogue needs a complete overhaul from the beginning. Half the time my brain hurts just trying to understand the spelling and grammar. The other half I skip through with a lot of scenes just repeating themselves.

I understand the focus of the game is on the 2 "relatives" living in the same house of the MC, but with very little story progression of the other characters in the game since it started is pretty bad. The game should just be renamed House Affection. You basically have all these separate games combined into one big game with all the different storylines. Unfortunately, it will never be a harem game.

Maybe in another 3 to 4 years with true progression of the other characters in the game might make it worth playing. And the so called "events" are so short they don't even seem worth the time of doing them.

Solid game, ok animation, bit long on the dialogue. I find it funny that some people decided to rate a game 1 star then write an essay about it. The time it takes to write that you'd find a game you like

Skip unseen text - best option for this game.

There are insanely long dialogs, especially on dates. There is nothing important, they are mostly looking at eachother, talking and smiling. There is no need for player input and its really convenient to skip the whole 50 page filler dialog in a few seconds.

Thankfully mundane events have short dialogs and they are quite enjoyable.

I liked the corruption levels being shown in everyday interactions with mom and sis. With levels every dinner, movie, sunbath becomes more naughty.

Mechanically its a simple game. No problems with money. Keep interacting with girls to rise their affection, then buy new dress and go on a date to increase relationship level.

Diaries are nice idea to get into girls thoughts. Just a few sentences about your interaction. It would be great, if all dialogs in this game were short and straight to the point like diaries.

There are alot of forced relationships. If you are interested in sis only, you still have to increase relationships with mom and even Granny, wtf?!? This ruins the mood for me.

nice game, this is my kind of games, slow burn to the goal. The history and how you slowly unlook the kinks on the family..... uff. Animations are great, character development really nice, the conflict slowly solving is really nice, its a shame the it feels like its on the en of the road.

This has the distinction of being one of the most annoying games I've ever played. It's wordy to the point of being ridiculous but there's something about the characters that makes it impossible to stop playing. I WANT to advance with every character and see what's coming next, while being constantly concerned that they're all going to find out about each other and remove the MC's genitals in revenge.

It's called Sweet Affection and it certainly does have that lovey-dovey feel to it. I like the diary system, it's nice to see something like this. I think it adds something useful and interesting to the game.

Problem that I can see is that once you've unlocked the sex scenes with one character, from then on it's all pretty much the same thing just with different pixels. So unless the dev is aiming for one huge orgy at the end, it's difficult to see where this is headed.

Having said that, I can't stop playing the damn thing so the dev is doing something right...

--Edit--
I'm not going to change my rating but there's n o way I'm downloading this one again. It's become far too large, even the 'low quality' version is nearly 8GB - that's just ridiculous.

Story is a bit weird, like at the start some girl steals money from you and when you find her again she tells you she stole your money so she could pay her tutor? really....a tutor?...anyway you can see its a very vanilla and boring.
Also Sharing is forced on you as well, Rosa and Donna whos mother and daughter is in a sexual relationship with one another and you can go after either but you cant be with one alone, its close to being NTR since either can be a LI and if you want one of them you cant you have to share them and be with both, its a bit to shitty for me since i hate the mother so game is unplayable without free choice.

Next you meet the thiefs familie and get your ass kicked by her father? and also finds out that the theif ahd her mother might be in a sexual relationship? i mean what? then the thief and her mother gives you a key to their house? again what? they known you for like 2 mins....dosent really make any kind of sense and feels quite a bit weird.

Then Rose talk to MC she says shes happy she stole money from MC with the mother right next to her and mother says nothing about it, something Rose and MC kept hidden to for appreently no reason at all?....also the mother of Rose walks around topless around MC all the time which is just plain stupid and makes no sense, story is just way to weird.

MC is a whimp that talks alot but cant back anything up, he is also the standard childish kind with a 12 year old mindset, any girl he meets he find hot and cant stop looking at tits and ass...so yeah boring and stupid, MC is just to nice and never dares to ask about anything, like he hears one girl was hurt by her father and he goes "i wont even ask about it" i mean its boring as fuck.

Dialogs with any girls seems flat and plain, it just to boring.

What is really annoying is how Kinetic it all is, its a sandbox but you got 0 freedom to do what you want, if you want to go with Rose your forced to do Roses mother questline so questlines are tied together removing any free choice, i dont want to touch Donna with a 10ft pole so i have to drop Rose as well which kills the game when you cant pick who you want.

Same for the Sister you cant even go on a route with her without including the mother, i will never understand why you arent allowed to pick who you want a relationship with, i mean what the fuck does the mother has to do with you being with the sister, same for Rose and Donna its idiotic, and this is what destroys the game the most.

They really should add the kinetic tag to warn people that you have no choices and no freedom, even though page one on forum makes it sound like you can pick who you want to be with but in truth you cant.

What really makes it boring is the hole setup with quests and girls and all that, you dont have any choices like when someone tells you, "you can always say no" but you never get an option to say or do anything, you just follow a 100% kinetic story, cant really call it quests either since all you do is click on someone to talk with them and repeat that a million times to gain points with the same scene played over and over, and its get a bit annoying that you have 0 controle, if someone ask you/MC if you like them you dont have a choice to say no since MC loves anything....

Girls look ok but its they arent great in any way.

Animations are short and just around average.

Music is a standard background music like when you ride in an elevator, better then silent but still meh.

In short you need to love everything, young/old/huge tits/small tits and so on to play this game, personaly i hate huge tits and since you cant avoid LIs with that due to questlines tied together the game becomes unplayable for me.

What really blows my mind is how fast you run into "in development" with some LIs i mean game is more then 5 years old and some LIs has no content after level 2, and game is 20gigs i mean really wtf? wheres the content...animaions are even short and just avereage so i really dont get the size of this game.

Pros:
Well there arent really any.

Cons:
Worst story and drawn out game ive ever seen, getting to fuck sister takes ages and your even having a freaking granny forced on you before that happens to, just no.....
Forced sharing if you want to be with a girl.
0 choices in the game, you cant turn down a LI since its 100% kinetic storyline for all LIs, and MC loves eveyone and you have no choice in anything.
Questlines tied together so you cant progress one LI without doing another who you might hate.
Flat and plain boring dialogs.

Characters have the same conversation every event.
Lack of actual sexual content in favor of endless repeats of "Are you sure it's okay to hold your hand/kiss/touch you etc"

Tries to be both a porn game and a novel, fails at both.

*giggles* *smiles* *giggles* *chuckles* (broken English) *giggles* (more broken English) *giggles* *chuckles* *smiles* *giggles* *smiles* (even more broken English) *giggles*
(repeat ad nauseam)

It's not a bad VN, per se. Likable enough characters and the diary keeps the "grind" from being too painful. Old models but I don't really mind that much.

Biggest criticism is, you guessed it, the dialogue. Needs a major revamp. Far too much giggling, smiling, etc. A bit of that sprinkled here and there is fine, but it quickly wears out its welcome when it's literally every other line. (I was beginning to wonder if the mom and sister characters were constantly high or something)

Running it by a native English speaker certainly wouldn't hurt either. Also, tighten up the script in general. "Brevity is the soul of wit" is a famous quote from Shakespeare. Basically, get your point across in as few words as possible. You're not getting paid by the word, so there's no point in using them to excess.

Currently sitting at 3 stars, but it has potential to be higher with a bit of tweaking and polish.

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*giggles*

EDIT: Reading through the discussion thread, it appears that the author has a problem taking constructive criticism, seeing it as a personal insult. Listen, the reason it's given isn't because we think we can do better. It's because we think YOU can. We're pointing out the flaws because we want to see you improve. There's something good that you've managed to create here, but it needs work. Look at it as an opportunity to learn and grow as a writer, instead of getting defensive about it.

- I really liked the idea of diaries.
- I also liked that there were a lot of animations and situations.
- long plot, a lot of text, it’s not for everyone, you can shorten it, although some will like it

This game will take ages to complete, even in its incomplete stage. There is a very high amount of content, but it's padded by an also exorbitant amount of grinding. Not in the sense that it requires repeatedly doing the same tasks again and again to “unlock” content — there is actually near zero need to unlock anything — but that you need to see every variation of every single event from both the mom and sister characters for each time of the day before you can advance the story, and there are multiple events on many time slots. So prepare yourself to spend multiple in-game days just going to the guide to see which events are missing, and then painstakingly watching every single scene. Not every one of those scenes is as interesting as the others, so sometimes you might feel like it would be nice to be able to skip the less critical content.

The dialogs are also painfully repetitive. The characters are all nice and sweet towards each other, and at some point you can't handle reading them say the same love declarations and emotional reassurances again, and again, and again, and again. There is almost zero drama here, just characters getting more and more in love with each other, and the amount of sweetness might give you diabetes.

On the plus side, I’d say that this is a game that does sandbox right: the mode exists to free you to play its truly overwhelming amount of content in the order you decide, and there are helpful tools in the game to tell you what you have and haven’t seen so you’re never really lost.

That said, it's a nice fell-good story for a change, and there are some sexy scenes that make the game worth playing.

There might be a good game hidden inside, but as it is right now it's just a waste of time.

The dialogues are way beyond excessive. 200 clicks for a simple "How are you?" are rather on the lower end.
If there is some interesting story somewhere, then it's covered by a shitload of meaningless back and forth banter.

Talking about excessive? Everyone is constantly apologizing to everyone else for nuffing.
And everyone else insist that an apology for nuffing is not needed which is answered by another apology... Oh boy...

I made it to a point where a NPC did something very outrageous. IRL this NPC would have spend some months in an ICU and then many years in prison. In any other game this NPC would be dead on the spot.
But here? More apologies!

Edith told me I forgot to mention: It gets worse over time. At the beginning it looks rather benign, only slightly annoying. But these mindless dialogues get exponentially longer the farther you "progress".
At some point "War and Peace" seems like a jolly short story...