... I don't know how I forgot about this post, sorry.When will the next update come out?
NoodleJacuzzi
Decided to do some testing with the lore on Illustrious models.
Last three were done with ControlNet Integrated Openpose. (NoobAI-XL ControlNet-OPENPOSE)You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Models Tested:
Hassaku XL Illustrious v1.2 - Style
Obsession Illustrious (Noob AI Model) v3.1
ZUKI Cute ILL v2.5
footjob ones worked without any added tags.
Not really, though I do semi-frequent image dumps in my discord server.May I ask if you have posted your AI works on other image websites? I really like your works, but the games and posts are relatively scattered. I would like to focus on watching them
I like how some of those have some of that fluffy warm vibe that easyfluff had, I was sad to see it go when I switched to prefect pony, and feel like the images are, while higher quality, more "generic AI" vibe than what I got out of fluffyrock.NoodleJacuzzi
Decided to do some testing with the lora on Illustrious models.
Last three were done with ControlNet Integrated Openpose. (NoobAI-XL ControlNet-OPENPOSE)
Models Tested:
Hassaku XL Illustrious v1.2 - Style
Obsession Illustrious (Noob AI Model) v3.1
ZUKI Cute ILL v2.5
footjob ones worked without any added tags.
1. Yeah the small inconsistencies annoy me too, luckily because I switched models those will happen much, much less frequently. PrefectPony is a million miles better at getting details consistent than FluffyRock, plus I try to keep notes of when an image is looking off so I can try to fix it later.Great job on your work! I think the game looks awesome, and I really hope you keep up with the development.
By the way, I ended up having some questions :
1. About the AI use: I noticed that some of the artworks of the same character have small inconsistencies. I know this would probably be fixed with something like Photoshop - just keeping one body for the different expressions. But the more I thought about it, the more it seemed too obvious. So, I was wondering — are you doing this to train the AI for it to achieve a more consistent style, or is this something that will be fixed in future end-versions of the game?
2. Do you plan on adding scenes of the futa Cast fucking the MC at some point? (btw, would love to see more Angelica content)
I don't think so, Hentai University has a much more forward protagonist so I have that as an outlet when I want to write that. Plus I find it refreshing to stick to the Syrup Town MC being a very chippy friendly fellow who's idea of getting tail ideally involves huffing fluff.In the future, are you ever gonna add a more "aggressive" or "dol" route. I mean like when Madam Sharly says you would use your pheromones to control the town. Or when Riley tries to goad you into forcing yourself on him. Would you add a route where you can do that?
reasonable. Bet you could still use it to make training data though.All of you patiently waiting for the next update:
Just thought I'd pop in on my birthday to say hi! I'm still working on Hentai University v33, medication issues are making every step really tough but I appreciate the patience.
To celebrate the occasion I think it's fitting I dump a stack of a bunch of the cast in their birthday suits!
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And the future seasonal cast members too because why not:
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In order they are autumn (goth bat/bear), winter (santa reindeer/goat boi helper), spring (mad hatter mouse/chubby turkey), and summer (tomboy shark/monkey)
The turkey girl definitely needs a redesign since prefect pony does not play nice with monotone bodies, and while Angelica is worth the effort to keep her whole body blue it's not a hill I want to die on for the turkey girl.
Honestly I may replace her with a bee since that's something this model can do:
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Originally I had planned for the spring seasonal cast members to be a honeybee and mantis/moth boi but fluffyrock couldn't get them looking right.
Not really, though I do semi-frequent image dumps in my discord server.
I think the first hangup for me there is I'm never really totally satisfied with an image enough to totally call it finished, I keep wanting to come back and touch up things or notice weird details, namely weirdness in the eyes, inconsistent finger/toe count, and belly fold lines being too large or looking unnatural.
The second is the size, I'm at about 20 gigs of just images in the training data folder, and that's the curated stuff. The folders of in-progress images or images I removed for having too many issues to justify fixing have way more. I passed over one million images generated a while back, mostly because I do very large batch jobs while I work on coding and on writing for syrup and HU.
The third is that especially when generating specifically for training data I generate some pretty out-there stuff, like shots for rainy of tentacles penetrating unusual areas, or with Syrup specifically the proportions making some folk uncomfortable. Those are along side random spontaneous ideas I have like img2img atlyss characters:
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Absolutely turbomaxing the thickness of shortstacks:
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Making training data for things the AI has trouble with like ass-to-ass stuff:
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Experimenting with dick designs and colors:
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Or coming up with cryptid designs I could put into syrup town:
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Fourth is that because the barrier for entry to generating AI is so low, any place that doesn't ban it is probably going to be flooded so anything I post will be quickly buried.
Still though you raise a good point, maybe I should make some kind of bot that scrapes my discord and f95zone posts and uploads them to my index, like a "where is noodle now" sort of section so that people can know I'm still at work. I also need to make some kind of system for making easier posts as subscribestar makes doing inline images harder than here or on patreon.
I like how some of those have some of that fluffy warm vibe that easyfluff had, I was sad to see it go when I switched to prefect pony, and feel like the images are, while higher quality, more "generic AI" vibe than what I got out of fluffyrock.
Still while I think they look nice I don't think I'd want to re-do the game's visuals again haha, I'd probably go insane. Thanks for letting me know how they look, I may test out illustrious models for other things in the future. I do need a new model for the locations anyways, something poppy and pastel.
1. Yeah the small inconsistencies annoy me too, luckily because I switched models those will happen much, much less frequently. PrefectPony is a million miles better at getting details consistent than FluffyRock, plus I try to keep notes of when an image is looking off so I can try to fix it later.
Yes I am doing these to train a model, actually as I work on the game I'm also making guides like this one on how to use SDXL:
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Which contains another guide to the model I used to generate the game's images as well:
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At the very start of Syrup Town's development my strategy was exactly what you were thinking, where I just swapped the details that needed changing, but doing things the harder way means I have more variety in the training data, which (hopefully) means I'll eventually get really good consistency -and- a large variety of camera angles and scene diversity.
I plan on using this same model to make images for my other games in the future too, so even more variety means more things I can do, like how Rainy DayZ wants some really out-there concepts like sounding, futasub, and beast content.
2. I get asked this a lot and while I don't have a plan yet for how I'll implement it exactly, a lot of people have requested it so I'm working on a system that would let you filter out specific fetishes and am making sure to have a good amount of taker-pov images in the training data so I can do scenes like that. It also helps that I need a lot of those style of images for Rainy DayZ.
I don't think so, Hentai University has a much more forward protagonist so I have that as an outlet when I want to write that. Plus I find it refreshing to stick to the Syrup Town MC being a very chippy friendly fellow who's idea of getting tail ideally involves huffing fluff.
Adding in alternate routes is a pretty fair bit of rewriting, so if I'm going to do it, it should be to add in content that the main route can't otherwise get, like having a female protagonist.
but then that'll only leave one guyNoodle, I have to ask something, and you may hate me for this.
What if you replaced the mad hatter mouse with the honeybee, so that spring's seasonal characters are the bird and the bee?
As much as I like the idea Mytalv brings up a good point, I want each seasonal pairing to have a character for carnivore and vegetarians so one of the two's gotta have a dick.Noodle, I have to ask something, and you may hate me for this.
What if you replaced the mad hatter mouse with the honeybee, so that spring's seasonal characters are the bird and the bee?
There's a link to a guide in the second post and in the game's museum, best of luck with generation!Hello, I love this game and I love how the characters look, that's why I wanted to ask if anyone knows what the name of the AI that the creator uses is called?
The bird and bees thing is a pretty catchy idea. But if you do end up taking the mouse out for the bird and bees and giving the turkey dick idea could you perhaps change a different one of the seasons into a guy so we'll at least have two guys, dick is nice but as a gay guy boobs aren't.I was told my new medication should arrive on the 24th, I'll still be working until then since putting all my eggs in the "I hope they work/there are no delays" basket seems foolhardy. Thank you all for your continued patience.
Thankfully I still have scores of training data so I always have some things to serve as discussion topics. Here's some dicks!
As a part of the training data I want lots of variety, which starts with colors. Despite having these and other sets of colored genitals I'll need to go back at some point and tag every dick/glans color to improve the training data, otherwise the model will default too heavily to pink glans.
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Then here are some of the slightly weirder types as well, like cetacean/tapered dicks, spiked dicks, a knotted equine type, a longer foreskin one (I have quite a few of these but it's really hard to make look good), and one with a ball ring.
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And my best shots at a spiral/porcine type of dick as well. Really difficult since:
- Few people can agree on what a stylized version should look like
- Anatomically correct versions are personally really unappealing
- Mostly because of 1 and 2, there's practically no training data contained in pony for them.
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I wonder if Illustrious can do weird dicks better than Pony can? These aren't anything great and there's more than a few issues which really stick out when zoomed in but the goal for the base model is really just "here's the basic shape/colors you need to get right".
Unrelated but a bit ago I was worried nintendo would notice I'm basically using pokemon so I toyed with the idea of making fakemon instead, so here's a few:
First off are the really silly ones Fooba and Snitties
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Some attempts at starters, these are Cuntily & Cultily, Pyarna & Pyama, and Wadiva & Wadottess.
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And since there's an image limit here's just a few other designs I really like out of the bunch. These are...
The sassy twerking imp Chiikihorn
The lazy Plumpurr
The 4-armed Rushya
The slime-boobied Slombra
The anthropod (there's a version with a big plow-able hole on it somewhere in my files) Spysect
And the constantly masturbating Goonlop
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The fakemon dex idea hasn't really had the time it needs to flourish since it's not super high priority compared to Uni and Syrup Town, but there are a few other issues it faces:
I miss having energy when I get home, I want to feel the joy of development again... I know I'll get back to my old self eventually but I really hope it's soon.
- Three stage evos are pretty hard since my model is tuned pretty heavily to shortstacks. It's tough to make anything feel like a workable basic or stage-2, everything has a single-stage feeling to it. When I can make a 2-stage line, they very commonly just feel like a smaller and bigger version of the same design.
- AI's really tuned to working on human models, even the Syuro-trained LoRa can't undo the fact that when you ask for
- PonyDiffusion is really good but has a few issues that make it hard to generate fakemon in particular. Notably that horns seem to be mistagged in the training data, so the ones I know as 'curled horns' (which should be the circular type you'll see on sheep), 'curved horns' (the almost S shape demon girls have), 'cow horns' (the almost right-angle curved horns which start on the side of the head and point straight up), and 'ram horns' (which should start on the forehead and curve backwards without making a full circle) all sometimes give interchangable results.
- I only have so many ideas and I want to avoid too much overlap, so for example since I have Slombra's line I want to avoid another slime girl-esque fakemon unless it properly brings some new idea to the table.
As much as I like the idea Mytalv brings up a good point, I want each seasonal pairing to have a character for carnivore and vegetarians so one of the two's gotta have a dick.
Besides that I'm not a big fan of the turkey's design so if anyone was to be replaced it'd be her and not the mouse.
But I'm also not super huge on the mouse either, it's quite the pickle.
There's a link to a guide in the second post and in the game's museum, best of luck with generation!
Entirely reasonable. I'm not the authority on pokemon dicks (I hope...), I was mostly just throwing things at the wall to see what looked alright for training data. Before I can really think about what kind of pokemon has what kind of dick I need to know what kind of dicks are possible and look good. Sometimes ones I really like stand out, like roserade with a green medial-ringed cetacean penis:It feels weird seeing Lurantis, a through-and-through plant, with a fleshy, spiky dick. Not complaining, necessarily, just trying to get my brain to jive with it.
Ty for the feedback! I made quite a few in my main batch, here's a few more of them. One was me wanting a nido-esque gender differences mon, these are Brattibat (dom), Brattibat (sub), Macula (dom), and Macula (sub):That said, I love the fakemons, especially Spysect, Snitties, and Chiikihorn. (Also, looks like another gen where I take the grass starter. One day I will return to my Water-type roots.) As for the evo issue... Wadottess feels like the best solution I can come up with. Big qualitative changes while keeping juuust enough from the previous design that it feels related. Or just disregard humanoid bodies entirely, and embrace the Fooba.
Hmm... that is a pickle. Would it help to give the turkey some meat, with which to turn the tables and stuff others? I mean, obviously it'd fix the lack-of-carnivore issue, but would it make the design more appealing to ya? I can't say that I'd mind her either way, and it does still let the birds/bees idea flourish.
I did some design design exploration, I couldn't think of a design to replace the turkey yet, working with birds is hard...The bird and bees thing is a pretty catchy idea. But if you do end up taking the mouse out for the bird and bees and giving the turkey dick idea could you perhaps change a different one of the seasons into a guy so we'll at least have two guys, dick is nice but as a gay guy boobs aren't.
Those bumblebee designs are so good, can't wait to see what you settle on.I did some design design exploration, I couldn't think of a design to replace the turkey yet, working with birds is hard...
But rather than adding a bee girl, what if it was a bumblebee boi?
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And some bumblebutt to help sell the idea:
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I'm not particularly attached to the doormouse either. He was originally going to be a crimbus character visually inspired by Scrooge, but I realized Reindeer Santa managing a whole team of chubby femboy goats was a better idea.
Since he'd replace the mouse I tried giving him the mouse's sexual gimmick, that being small peen with beeg balls, but I also think he looks pretty cute with a tiny pecker. Plus I can just use the big ball micropenis concept for the goat boi.
I wonder what it means about me that I can come up with cute boys more easily than I can come up with mommy milker designs? :/