Graf66

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So he was thouse grozeks team? I dont remember it ever proven.
dude, it's the same art in the beginning, plus Mary and Tiffany almost the same models as in Hypno Slave.

No. Steam accepts games with no "new" content all the time. This is your personal bias used in hyperbole, and is not grounded in the reason why Steam rejected it.
Really??? Wow, I didn't know that (sarcasm). I don't care about the reason Steam banned them. All i know that they did it absolutely right and I'm fully support the decision whatever the reason behind it. Such developers shouldn't own the right to sell such garbage. Or at least until they will be forced to provide full roadmap and strictly follow the schedule.
 

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Well, other game developers here don't like the new direction with AI, most of us don't like it, and somehow our opinion makes us brain-dead NPCs I guess. Apparently, having a different opinion makes us stupid.
Most of the dislike with AI games now is simply their lack of good animation. Compared to well animated models it's just lackluster. This will start changing quickly with the release of Hunyuan Video though. I'd guess we'll start seeing a glut of AI games with clever use of short AI porn clips soon.
 
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Again, I'm not on any side of the AI argument... But you do realize they are teaching how to use AI as a tool responsibly and creatively in artistic work at CalArts, RISD, MCAD, and other top art schools around the world.

Well, it's good Steam rejected it then, huh?

And where have you been? Uberpie has been using AI trained on his art for the past 18+ months. His lack of attention to detail and abysmal quality assurance has always been two of some of his worst weaknesses.
I'm a graphic designer and I graduated from such a school, You are 100% true, but the key word here is '' responsibly '' and '' creatively ''. If I make a Logo, I'm expected to charge it around 300, to 1000 euros because I put time in it, effort, artistic knowledge, creative knowledge, etc. Sometimes I will work something from scratch, and sometimes I will use AI to get some samples for the idea I have and work on top of them. My clients don't want a machine to make something in 1 second and me charging them 300, to 1000 euros for that. As a comparison, some people are willing to pay for AI generated porn and some don't. Uber's AI is not worth paying him because he doesn't even bother to work on top of it, in my humble opinion, considering he had an art style that could rival the best of them.
 

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Most of the dislike with AI games now is simply their lack of good animation. Compared to well animated models it's just lackluster. This will start changing quickly with the release of Hunyuan Video though. I'd guess we'll start seeing a glut of AI games with clever use of short AI porn clips soon.
Ai can't even keep drawing certain character in certain way.
 
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Count Morado

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I'm a graphic designer and I graduated from such a school, You are 100% true, but the key word here is '' responsibly '' and '' creatively ''. If I make a Logo, I'm expected to charge it around 300, to 1000 euros because I put time in it, effort, artistic knowledge, creative knowledge, etc. Sometimes I will work something from scratch, and sometimes I will use AI to get some samples for the idea I have and work on top of them. My clients don't want a machine to make something in 1 second and me charging them 300, to 1000 euros for that. As a comparison, some people are willing to pay for AI generated porn and some don't. Uber's AI is not worth paying him because he doesn't even bother to work on top of it, in my humble opinion, considering he had an art style that could rival the best of them.
I have quite a few years of design - theatrical and graphic - under my belt, too.

I am in agreement with nearly your entire post about expectations and the use of AI as a tool.

I also agree with your assessment of Uberpie's work ethic and lack of followup.

While his art was enjoyable, you should be aware that he had quite a few scenes in the early versions to have been digitally traced from other artists work with only slight modifications. Also, since you are an artist, you cannot deny his difficulty in remaining on model by hand. And so that is where I part ways with your comment. That's all.
I dont care about AI but is the story somewhat better? Would replay it.
dunno, but on the day S1 Redux was planned to be released, the head writer left the dev team to choose "to be happy."
 

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Again, I'm not on any side of the AI argument... But you do realize they are teaching how to use AI as a tool responsibly and creatively in artistic work at CalArts, RISD, MCAD, and other top art schools around the world.
Still, I hope you realize the difference between ai-generated art and using ai to help the artist in creating their art. I do. I use it do some job faster, but as long as I can draw or paint it myself, I can always fix whatever is wrong. Four fingers at the feet are not about using it as "just a tool".
 

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Still, I hope you realize the difference between ai-generated art and using ai to help the artist in creating their art. I do. I use it do some job faster, but as long as I can draw or paint it myself, I can always fix whatever is wrong. Four fingers at the feet are not about using it as "just a tool".
I agree and have commented many times on Uberpie's laziness with not being more attentive using AI, as well as his lack of revision and cleanup.
 

Josh!!

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No idea.
Uberpie is whining about redux "costing a lot" and that if the season 1 don't meet his expectations in incomes there will be no season 2.
Imho that's a load of bullshit, his team is getting around 20k\month for remaking "353 CG images (+150 normal game images) " of content in a year. It is well paid job that kinda, do not deserve additional bonuses to keep working.
Yea like bro, there's fuck all of the old content here
I mean you only go as far as putting Gerda's cameras in her house and her path stops there

This already is a lazy remaster in terms of quality control, but they couldn't even bother doing a remaster of all it or even close to most of what was already out there after a year plus

All this AI shit is terrible, Ubur wasn't Picasso or anything, however he had a unique and attractive style. Everything now or at least 90% of it is AI generated and removes all the old charm this game had. At most, it should only be backgrounds that could use AI inclusion, even then that's a stretch

I knew this game went down in the shitter a while ago, however it did have quite some promise a few years back so it is unfortunate to see it just become a milking project
 

Josh!!

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Yeah, not the hate.
But it is apparent why lostraven "chose to be happy" by leaving the development team.

In my opinion, there hasn't been good content since v0.89.8 (just like I said on my media files post #29,171 1 year ago).

I will say that I opened S1 Redux and thought the UI "quality of life" design seems fresh. I played until Peter went to the front of his house. I tried to keep the skip dialogue continuous to check out a speed run, but it seemed that every scene change or after every decision, the skip dialogue deactivated and I would have to reactivate it. That's annoying.

At this time, I reiterate my previous estimate on what this S1 Redux is worth... Not the $25 that it's selling on itch.
I noticed that the skip dialogue key would stop working if you saved mid scene, you'd have to wait until it's over before being able to use it again

And good for Traven, he's one of the good ones and is gonna do better work for sure outside of Taffy Tales
 

Mgraziosi1

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So for those confused about what this is. They essentially remade the entire "season 1" in unity with brand new assets, UI, dialogue, artwork, etc...

The artwork and other various assets were all clearly redone with AI, as someone who doesn't have a autistic panic attack the second I see AI art.....its done reasonably well and in some cases is a decent improvement over previous artwork in terms of sharpness and clarity. Sometimes its a bit noticeable but it should not be the reason people should be upset with this game.

A full year to do a rework of 1 patch worth of content that nobody asked is the real reason to be upset.

Dont get me a wrong, the UI and general structure of the game looks significantly better, the background art the extra's all look great, but this should not have taken a full year. Its still just based in Unity....

Stop doing fuck shit with your game and just put out content that people want.stop splitting the game up into a million different versions for "seasons" or for the various fetishes that people do or dont want to see. make one fucking game.
 
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