ogr blanc

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Some people just don't know what NTR is, Darnell fucked someone in the toilets you don't know who, and it definately wasn't anyone the MC was in a relationship with.
correction, he raped someone, also, its implied that he is gangbanging the sister. and ntr is not just what happens, but what is implied. as for "not someone the mc is in a relationship with" is also a question, since its someone that might be.

in porn games, if someone is fucking someone, and the mc is not one of them, its fair to consider it ntr. because ntr is a massive tag that can mean anything from 2 people fucking, to someone fucking a love interest. and since the forum has bundled all of them in the same tag, then yeah, it is ntr according to the forum own definition.
 

ogr blanc

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Only if you don't know what NTR is.
NTR isn't about fucking it's about betrayal, cheating and the emotional crap that goes with it.
But this is a pointless argument that has been done to death.
no, [cheating] means betrayal. ntr means EVERYTHING. which is the problem in this forum for a long time.

besides, implied sex is also ntr, because part of the ntr is people fucking behind your back. besides, like i pointed earlier, one of the love interests is implied to be in a gangbang, which would constitute ntr by your own definition.
 

Fixn

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I kinda expected for the nighttime music to properly be looped. Still has that horse clopping.

The new music is goofy x10. Pretty sure that was ripped straight outta toontown.
 
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Stil996

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no, [cheating] means betrayal. ntr means EVERYTHING. which is the problem in this forum for a long time.

besides, implied sex is also ntr, because part of the ntr is people fucking behind your back. besides, like i pointed earlier, one of the love interests is implied to be in a gangbang, which would constitute ntr by your own definition.
You really don't know what the words you are using mean do you
Cheating aka adultery = NTR (aka fucking behind your back)
Consensual sharing is not,

I'm not continuing this, this has be argued to death, use google if you want to educate yourself.
 

ogr blanc

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You really don't know what the words you are using mean do you
Cheating aka adultery = NTR (aka fucking behind your back)
Consensual sharing is not,

I'm not continuing this, this has be argued to death, use google if you want to educate yourself.
this has nothing to do with google, which is my point, you are using one of the definitions of ntr, the problem is, as i said a few times now, this forum uses many for it. which includes people that arent the mc, fucking. and, again like i already said, one of the love interests, the sister, is implied to participate in a gangbang that does not include the mc, which would constitute ntr.

the problem is, you assume ntr to be only between people in a relationship, which is wrong. at least according to this forum's definition.

EDIT: cheating is also a tag in this forum. and because its so borked, it means everything and anything.
 

JoJoMan2997

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I understand the need for artistic integrity and wanting to put out your absolute best, however, when you have a subscription/patron-funded development cycle where the fans can see the progress every step of the way. The luxury of being able to afford a whole revamp of a game is lost, it'd be one thing if this was a private development that had multiple reworks, but the fans are just effectively playing a polished-up version of what they've already played. The much better move would've been to continue creating new content following your new model of standards and once you finished the game rework everything that you felt needed correcting to make your game more cohesive, now most of us just kinda feel like an 8-month long sloppy second just got dumped on us. Yeah, we'll still get our nuts off but it won't be nearly as satisfying as new territory.
 
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ValeriaEx

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It's buggy as hell. Danny appearing twice on the same screen, Mary appearing twice on top of another Mary. The story's not adding up into anything.

I know I made a prediction last time about this going to happen, but I didn't expect it would be this much accurate. Holy.
 

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correction, he raped someone, also, its implied that he is gangbanging the sister. and ntr is not just what happens, but what is implied. as for "not someone the mc is in a relationship with" is also a question, since its someone that might be.

in porn games, if someone is fucking someone, and the mc is not one of them, its fair to consider it ntr. because ntr is a massive tag that can mean anything from 2 people fucking, to someone fucking a love interest. and since the forum has bundled all of them in the same tag, then yeah, it is ntr according to the forum own definition.
You’re trolling right? Did you actually just say when two people are fucking and one isn’t the MC it’s NTR? What about games with two sets of couple in it? Is the other couple fucking now NTR?

On top of that NTR implication is a real thing, but in games that use implication to convey NTR. That isn’t what’s happening in this game. The story is setting up Darnell as the dude that CAN gangbang your sister if you don’t stop it. At no time does it imply it’s happening now.

Shit takes like this is what gets this thread wiped, and honestly I’d welcome it at this point.
 

valeral

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people are complaining about NTR (well people might dislike it yeah) and..rape? do I remember it wrong? isn't MC (or the evil side) already a fucked up mf? aren't the early scenes with danny's mother already some kind of rape? as what did people categorize them? shouldn't they get the hell out of this game loooong time ago then? well I don't support rape content but just got confused by the reactions
 
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It became worser & took longer the more money received & time passes....
Yeah, it really did. Updates like once or twice a year at this stage, and the last couple were either boring or bombs. It also looks like it lost its separate paths, the harem, ntr, sharing ones for that matter to I guess streamline the game as it already takes too long to even make a single update for a single path. And due to the changes the writing also took a dive, and it really wasn't too good to begin with thinking back on it. I wouldn't call it bad at this stage, it's just something worth forgetting about and suddenly remembering and getting a nice playthrough.
 

ogr blanc

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people are complaining about NTR (well people might dislike it yeah) and..rape? do I remember it wrong? isn't MC (or the evil side) already a fucked up mf? aren't the early scenes with danny's mother already some kind of rape? as what did people categorize them? shouldn't they get the hell out of this game loooong time ago then? well I don't support rape content but just got confused by the reactions
dont get me wrong, i also hate the fact the mc can only be either a beta cuck or a rapist. but that doesnt change the fact that at the very least, the mc has a mind controlling cock that makes them feel good(well except for danny's but i also think they borked his transformation). the scene in the new version is worse if only because the girl is left crying afterwards.

it is fucked up either way, but there's an argument for the former that at least the characters werent raped, but playing hard to get with the mc. and that girls are forcing him to act that way, intentionaly or not.

but i will repeat it again, i do not like that the mc is a rapist either.
 
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jjm152

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Agree. I don't see any problem yet in plot, but i think the scene where Tiffany obeying's Darnell order in front of MC should be avoidable i guess.
Darnell is the antagonist. If he's not a shit bag that is going to bumfuck your sister, your mum and all the girls you are after, then he's no longer the antagonist anymore.

I don't get it. The entire point of having an antagonist is to get you invested in the story and to eventually feel the sense of victory over them when you beat them. I think it's fine. Hell I think it's better than fine, I think it's great. I fucking hate Darnell and I think it will be awesome to fuck his sister in front of him and I think his presence in the game's narrative adds some much needed drama to a VN that is otherwise just a complete power trip.

If anything I think they need to give the reader more reasons to hate Darnell. It'll make gong after him just that much sweeter.

My biggest complaint about the VN other than obvious bugs is the lack of a branching narrative and obvious continuity errors in the dialogs that have been there for literally years at this point.
 

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Isn't that what they've supposed to have fix in this patch?

And i agree about Darnell, IF it pans out like you say. Although the "more reasons to hate Darnell" bit can get out of hand quick, so i would rather not.
 
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Darnell is the antagonist. If he's not a shit bag that is going to bumfuck your sister, your mum and all the girls you are after, then he's no longer the antagonist anymore.

I don't get it. The entire point of having an antagonist is to get you invested in the story and to eventually feel the sense of victory over them when you beat them. I think it's fine. Hell I think it's better than fine, I think it's great. I fucking hate Darnell and I think it will be awesome to fuck his sister in front of him and I think his presence in the game's narrative adds some much needed drama to a VN that is otherwise just a complete power trip.

If anything I think they need to give the reader more reasons to hate Darnell. It'll make gong after him just that much sweeter.

My biggest complaint about the VN other than obvious bugs is the lack of a branching narrative and obvious continuity errors in the dialogs that have been there for literally years at this point.
Honestly, Darnell felt more like a rival type character at the very start of this. Hell you were even told that he wasn't all bad, and you even had an option to save him and possibly later team up with him. The real antagonist felt like that principal, with his whole mind breaking slave trading cartel going on. He even nearly broke Darnell's neck making him look like a total chump. Though I do have to say, post the forced Mary ntr scene, he felt more and more antagonistic, I guess because of the removal of the sharing route. Though i'm guessing that's what the rework is for, to potentially get rid of all that prior build up and make sense of this game going forward.
 

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Darnell is the antagonist. If he's not a shit bag that is going to bumfuck your sister, your mum and all the girls you are after, then he's no longer the antagonist anymore.

I don't get it. The entire point of having an antagonist is to get you invested in the story and to eventually feel the sense of victory over them when you beat them. I think it's fine. Hell I think it's better than fine, I think it's great. I fucking hate Darnell and I think it will be awesome to fuck his sister in front of him and I think his presence in the game's narrative adds some much needed drama to a VN that is otherwise just a complete power trip.

If anything I think they need to give the reader more reasons to hate Darnell. It'll make gong after him just that much sweeter.

My biggest complaint about the VN other than obvious bugs is the lack of a branching narrative and obvious continuity errors in the dialogs that have been there for literally years at this point.
This is exactly what these games need, a reason fpr us to hate (not simply dislike) an antagonist so our victory is so much sweeter.
 
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