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Then you have missed it people have been complaining about NTR netonare for awhile and begging the dev not to add more. NTR has a very small but extremely vocal fanbase and will dish out money to see it in whatever project they like. The issue comes to when devs start adding it in to games that didn't innitialy advertise that. It also makes no sense to make a horse dick MC get cucked. We will see if he starts losing more patons when he starts adding more NTR as that is what typically happens to these games. Then he will have to double dowm on the NTR for those who stayed.
"The issue comes to when devs start adding it in to games that didn't innitialy advertise that."
LOLWUT? The dev made it clear he is gonna add cucking/NTR in the game since the absolute start of development and people were complaining about it already then, 5 years ago! I am not defender of NTR, but acting like the big NTR hating group for this game is not as annoying (if not even more) than NTR fans is silly, and they have been pretty vocal about it too, so no wonder if that was one of the reasons this path haven't been started implementing until so much later.
"It also makes no sense to make a horse dick MC get cucked."
Well you can't make MC being hung in dominant path and then magically have the small dick in cuck path without it looking like bs. And IMHO I think big dick guys getting cucked is at least some kind of unusual idea for that kink, the trope of "uhhhh my dick is small and bull's dick is big hurr durr and because of that I am about to be cucked" is tired and overdone to death.
 

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The issue comes to when devs start adding it in to games that didn't innitialy advertise that.
This game started with netorare (under the incorrect genre of cucckold) announced back in 2018 when it was first released and the subject has arisen frequently every year since.
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The developer's vision has always been to include these genres. The fact is that a small subgroup of the group of people who do not like netorare/ntr has continuously bullied the developer into thinking that if he followed his own vision (whatever it is, and however sloppily he does it) that they would create a huge scene, quit subscribing and/or brigade the threads and badger him for "cucking" them.
It also makes no sense to make a horse dick MC get cucked.
This shows a lack of understanding human motivations, interests, desires. Not every person wants a horse dick up inside them. It's a fucking trope. Literally, a "Fucking" trope. Not everyone is a size queen.
We will see if he starts losing more patons when he starts adding more NTR as that is what typically happens to these games.
You have absolutely no proof to back up your claim to what "typically happens to these games." There may be some games that do lose patrons - there may also be games who gain them. No one has actually collected data to make a substantiated claim. You're blowing smoke out.
In fact, in Uberpie's case - the most recent update that includes the netorare/ntr route shows his biggest jump (in both numbers and percentage) in patreons of any update he's previously released.
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We'll have to wait and see how that holds out - but you are definitely coming from a biased viewpoint and feeding into your own beliefs rather than attempting to look at everything with an unjaundiced eye.
 

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This game started with netorare (under the incorrect genre of cucckold)
Okay someone has to help out the old fuck that is me with these terms.
I was under the impression that NTR means, the MC is involved with a person who is in a relationship, or the MC (mostly female then) is in a relationship themselves and is cheating on their partner.
And cuckold when the MC is cheated on.

So why is the term cuckold wrong for the "NTR" route?
 

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This game started with netorare (under the incorrect genre of cucckold) announced back in 2018 when it was first released and the subject has arisen frequently every year since.
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The developer's vision has always been to include these genres. The fact is that a small subgroup of the group of people who do not like netorare/ntr has continuously bullied the developer into thinking that if he followed his own vision (whatever it is, and however sloppily he does it) that they would create a huge scene, quit subscribing and/or brigade the threads and badger him for "cucking" them.This shows a lack of understanding human motivations, interests, desires. Not every person wants a horse dick up inside them. It's a fucking trope. Literally, a "Fucking" trope. Not everyone is a size queen.
You have absolutely no proof to back up your claim to what "typically happens to these games." There may be some games that do lose patrons - there may also be games who gain them. No one has actually collected data to make a substantiated claim. You're blowing smoke out.
In fact, in Uberpie's case - the most recent update that includes the netorare/ntr route shows his biggest jump (in both numbers and percentage) in patreons of any update he's previously released.
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We'll have to wait and see how that holds out - but you are definitely coming from a biased viewpoint and feeding into your own beliefs rather than attempting to look at everything with an unjaundiced eye.
I'm not quite sure what your objective is but the stats you quote are deceptive. Below is more reflective of UberPie patreon subscription status and trend.
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I'm not quite sure what your objective is but the stats you quote are deceptive. Below is more reflective of UberPie patreon subscription status and trend.
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You are the one being deceptive.

We're using the same site, - you just prefer to look at 1 year and 6 months when I was looking at a longer time frame. I even expanded to view the graphic I originally used because using the smaller version makes it looks even more apparent that the recent update smashed Uberpie previous records. I was attempting to show less bias - but hey, if you want to play your little games:
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  1. is the v0.95.7 update that includes the netorare (ntr) route
  2. is the v0.82.4/v0.85.1 update
  3. is the v0.68.1 update
As you can plainly see - what I stated is what we see. I also stated in my initial response to you that, yes, time will tell about whether the trend will hold. It's still too early to tell. As you can see - after any update, there is always a dip because a decent number of people subscribe in the month of an update just to get the update, then they pause their subscription until the next update. As for the Patreon Adult Games rank - as you can see, he aint hurting there, either. Staying right around that Top 20 of over 6000 adult game creators on Patreon.

If you are going to use data, use it ethically - not simply a smaller snapshot to attempt to prove your falsehood. That's like looking at a one winter that is below normal temps and days the world is on its way to freezing over. You need to take a wider look at trends and other factors.
Curious what will happen when red completely takes over Peter
Peter will eventually gain control over red in the main route, not the other way around, to become more assertive on his own. The story narrative is already going in that direction in the main route.
Okay someone has to help out the old fuck that is me with these terms.
I was under the impression that NTR means, the MC is involved with a person who is in a relationship, or the MC (mostly female then) is in a relationship themselves and is cheating on their partner.
And cuckold when the MC is cheated on.

So why is the term cuckold wrong for the "NTR" route?
A cuckold is a willing participant in the relationship, it creates positive feelings. They get off on their partner having sex with others - either simply the idea of it, or having the partner talk about it, or watching it (video or live). This would better be understood as Netorase.

Netorare is when the person is unwilling, it creates negative feelings. They become sad, jealous, angry, or otherwise upset when they learn that their partner is actively having sex with another person (or people) and uses it to belittle them.

So, yes, people who think they are being insulting by calling someone a cuck is actually showing their own stupidity on the subject. But hey, that's usually the case with bullies, isn't it?
 

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You are the one being deceptive.

We're using the same site, - you just prefer to look at 1 year and 6 months when I was looking at a longer time frame. I even expanded to view the graphic I originally used because using the smaller version makes it looks even more apparent that the recent update smashed Uberpie previous records. I was attempting to show less bias - but hey, if you want to play your little games:
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  1. is the v0.95.7 update that includes the netorare (ntr) route
  2. is the v0.82.4/v0.85.1 update
  3. is the v0.68.1 update
As you can plainly see - what I stated is what we see. I also stated in my initial response to you that, yes, time will tell about whether the trend will hold. It's still too early to tell. As you can see - after any update, there is always a dip because a decent number of people subscribe in the month of an update just to get the update, then they pause their subscription until the next update. As for the Patreon Adult Games rank - as you can see, he aint hurting there, either. Staying right around that Top 20 of over 6000 adult game creators on Patreon.

If you are going to use data, use it ethically - not simply a smaller snapshot to attempt to prove your falsehood. That's like looking at a one winter that is below normal temps and days the world is on its way to freezing over. You need to take a wider look at trends and other factors.
Peter will eventually gain control over red in the main route, not the other way around, to become more assertive on his own. The story narrative is already going in that direction in the main route.
A cuckold is a willing participant in the relationship, it creates positive feelings. They get off on their partner having sex with others - either simply the idea of it, or having the partner talk about it, or watching it (video or live). This would better be understood as Netorase.

Netorare is when the person is unwilling, it creates negative feelings. They become sad, jealous, angry, or otherwise upset when they learn that their partner is actively having sex with another person (or people) and uses it to belittle them.

So, yes, people who think they are being insulting by calling someone a cuck is actually showing their own stupidity on the subject. But hey, that's usually the case with bullies, isn't it?
Do you even stop to think before you reply? You used 3 years worth of statistics to justify that recent decisions are helping the project. Whereas the true picture is that over the last year he has lost 1.2% of his subscribers and in the recent months the subscriber trend is downwards.
 

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Do you even stop to think before you reply? You used 3 years worth of statistics to justify that recent decisions are helping the project. Whereas the true picture is that over the last year he has lost 1.2% of his subscribers and in the recent months the subscriber trend is downwards.
Oh my god. Are you kidding me?
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You may end up being correct in your prediction, after all is said and done. I have never denied that part. However, I have denied that the claims you make cannot be currently supported by the data as it stands today.
Don't worry about him I got so confused reading his replies I don't think he knows how to use data correctly, Probably just some idiot
Sure, Jan.
 

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ntr good. content good, except mary. am i in the minority in loathing all mary content? way too much of the middle aged femcel
 

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ntr good. content good, except mary. am i in the minority in loathing all mary content? way too much of the middle aged femcel
Yes you are in the minority. She's also most likely going to remain one of the main focuses in the netorare content, so you'll want to be prepared.
 
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hey morado, since you know fucking everything about this game, i have a question

Is Danny written to be trans/trans coded, gay, bi, just a guy who likes crossdressing, nonbinary? was this ever adress? cus i have been replaying this game and his writting is mega-weird, is not consistent ever, even you can point out where a new update happen because sometimes he's a becca boy and the other is cheating in his girlfriend and praying to be breeded (in his own route, if we add becca's route to the mix it almost feels like 3 differents characters)


also the NTR was always in the table, thats true, but UberPie really put it in the side, like every time a chance of something remotly close to NTR is hinted to happen, is not completed.
 
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hey morado, since you know fucking everything about this game, i have a question

Is Danny written to be trans/trans coded, gay, bi, just a guy who likes crossdressing, nonbinary? was this ever adress? cus i have been replaying this game and his writting is mega-weird, is not consistent ever, even you can point out where a new update happen because sometimes he's a becca boy and the other is cheating in his girlfriend and praying to be breeded (in his own route, if we add becca's route to the mix it almost feels like 3 differents characters)


also the NTR was always in the table, thats true, but UberPie really put it in the side, like every time a chance of something remotly close to NTR is hinted to happen, is not completed.
As for Danny, I don't think Uberpie has a complete idea about it. However, Danny presents (usually) as a cis-male with heterosexual tendencies. That all said, I don't find that he's 3 different characters, in my opinion. He's genderfluid for his identity and questioning for his sexuality. It only appears as not consistent if one thinks that gender and sexuality as unwavering.

As for netorare - Yup, I know - and we see the brigading in here from the fiasco in March 2021 as a reason why Uberpie always seemed to back off. Such as last years statement that both main and netorare routes will be worked on "simultaneously," except he's already retracted that and the next update is main route only.
you know having NTR like this is really cheap shit , if you play main route then play NTR route it feels like different game , it would have been better if we had choices how we handle the game and based on our choices NTR happen or not , not oh here ntr and non ntr
I don't know about it feeling like a different game - but yes, I agree that it is really cheap shit to have them completely separate instead of as optional scenes throughout.
 

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I always thought that Danny is just fucking stupid. He has seen Peter's cock a couple of times and then sucks off a guy with the exact same sized cock and it doesn't even cross his mind that it could be Peter? Or does he just think that all men are buildt like this, just not him?
 

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I always thought that Danny is just fucking stupid. He has seen Peter's cock a couple of times and then sucks off a guy with the exact same sized cock and it doesn't even cross his mind that it could be Peter? Or does he just think that all men are buildt like this, just not him?
Sometimes you have to suspend disbelief. I mean...
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At least the MC wears a full mask :ROFLMAO:
 
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