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So why does Darryl have to be an asshole? I don't really feel that it adds to the story in any good way and in all honesty is just racist, I mean he's a drug dealing asshole who cheats in class and that's his whole character. On top of that when he gets beat up by the MC, the MC says some shit about the south rising again? Like why? It's not even a good line?
lostraven Does he really say that? Jeebus.
 

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lostraven Does he really say that? Jeebus.
Yes he does say that ”sort of” if you ignore the context. First of all it has nothing to do with their scuffle in school since thats on another arc it just seems that way because the wonky order things play out at the moment. Its actually part of Beccas arc where the ”devil side” states something in the order of ”if he abuses you again I’m gonna jaw him so hard he’ll think the south is rising again”. This is referencing the sexual assault Darryl commits on Becca early on (a serious felony btw). Not to mention saying that makes the other side tell him off for being dark and that he should dial it back.

In short its a non issue and for us that isnt special snowflakes the line was hilarious but then I’m a big fan of Chappelle.
 

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I imagine with the way the plot is done, Clara will be about 80% done but maybe 30 to 40% of Becca. (largely due to how I've structured it), but thrown in the mix will be an entirely new girl no one (not even me, I've only seen her in writing form) has seen before and she will have some scenes as well. All I can guarantee is there will be some juicy content deffo, a part of me is still praying we can fit it all in though. I want to start on Mary as much as everyone else.
Thanks. I too can't wait for Mary, but my main girl is Tiffany so I've gotta be patient.

So why does Darryl have to be an asshole? I don't really feel that it adds to the story in any good way and in all honesty is just racist, I mean he's a drug dealing asshole who cheats in class and that's his whole character. On top of that when he gets beat up by the MC, the MC says some shit about the south rising again? Like why? It's not even a good line?
I'm pretty sure it's a conscious choice as that might be exactly what NTR fans want out of a "bull." I'm not going to pretend like I know anything about a fetish I fundamentally don't understand but I can certainly see someone being into it. It seems really odd in context now but that's because this isn't the NTR path. Granted I do think it could probably be toned down a bit and still work.
 
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”if he abuses you again I’m gonna jaw him so hard he’ll think the south is rising again”. [/QUOTE said:
GAWD DAMN that is a great line. If your going to make a charecter a psycotic evil shit, there has to be a certain amount of shock value. The alter ego should want to do heinous shit so that he can be a foil for the mild mannered MC and represnt a extreme level of depravity for the MC to sink to.
Softening the alter ego or making it more PC lessens the conflict driving the story.

TLDR...PC pandering ruins this type of game
 

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Yes he does say that ”sort of” if you ignore the context. First of all it has nothing to do with their scuffle in school since thats on another arc it just seems that way because the wonky order things play out at the moment. Its actually part of Beccas arc where the ”devil side” states something in the order of ”if he abuses you again I’m gonna jaw him so hard he’ll think the south is rising again”. This is referencing the sexual assault Darryl commits on Becca early on (a serious felony btw). Not to mention saying that makes the other side tell him off for being dark and that he should dial it back.

In short its a non issue and for us that isnt special snowflakes the line was hilarious but then I’m a big fan of Chappelle.
I mean, yeah, out of context, that is bad. I just remember having to take Darnell's original dialogue from Uber and changing it to so it wouldn't just be the MOST 1 dimensional shit about, shall we say, particular folk. I don't know. I think I helped make a character you would wanna hate for something just outside the color of their skin. And I know how LR writes, I proofread it after all. I can see that kinda line being there.
 

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So why does Darryl have to be an asshole? I don't really feel that it adds to the story in any good way and in all honesty is just racist, I mean he's a drug dealing asshole who cheats in class and that's his whole character. On top of that when he gets beat up by the MC, the MC says some shit about the south rising again? Like why? It's not even a good line?
Because the Evil MC is spiteful and cruel, and at this point has zero humanity. He's not someone you should by any means aspire to be or see as 'nice.' Players choose between more cruel evil routes and more 'gentle' routes. The evil MC can become a full blown sociopath by the end or possibly become at best, an anti-hero, but he'll never be 'good.'

He's also vastly impulsive, and if he thinks it'll hurt and offend you, he'll say it, I never imagined his character as racist, but he'd be racist if he knew you'd react the way he wanted. It's heavily implied he is 'more' than just a split personality but the details are vague and he won't talk about it.

Darnell himself has a deep seated personal reason for hating the MC, but he's also driven by years of anger, frustration, feelings of betrayal and the belief he deserves better. Darnell is purposefully kept shallow at the moment.
 
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So why does Darryl have to be an asshole? I don't really feel that it adds to the story in any good way and in all honesty is just racist, I mean he's a drug dealing asshole who cheats in class and that's his whole character. On top of that when he gets beat up by the MC, the MC says some shit about the south rising again? Like why? It's not even a good line?
How does having a villain / antagonist doesn't add to the story? Of course it does. The beauty of having an actually menacing villain (like Eric in Big Brother) is that it works either if you are into NTR (as fap material) or if you are not (as an enemy to defeat, game-wise). The fact that he is black is an archetype for this fetish (see BLACKED.com). A racist archetype? Well... maybe. But then, if Satan abides, the finished extra version of the game it's going to have dog (and horse?) fucking. So, if you want to sanitize your fappings -a bad idea, if you ask me, fapping to taboos is the most liberating thing in the world- this may not be the game for you.
 

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How does having a villain / antagonist doesn't add to the story? Of course it does. The beauty of having an actually menacing villain (like Eric in Big Brother) is that it works either if you are into NTR (as fap material) or if you are not (as an enemy to defeat, game-wise). The fact that he is black is an archetype for this fetish (see BLACKED.com). A racist archetype? Well... maybe. But then, if Satan abides, the finished extra version of the game it's going to have dog (and horse?) fucking. So, if you want to sanitize your fappings -a bad idea, if you ask me, fapping to taboos is the most liberating thing in the world- this may not be the game for you.
That's an odd deduction, but's focused on ignoring the underlying context and the nature of Darnell's characterization rather than to actually adress it. "Because bestiality will feature in the game, any concern regarding Darnell should be discarded, as it's definitely in the same level and impact as the previous one, and therefore should be accepted as such" is a weak argument, i'm not criticizing you if you believe it, but i felt i had to say it. At least in my books, and anyone is free to disagree with me, a woman fucking a horse is in no shape or form an insult to any of us in our humanity. Now, a black character framed as specially violent, psicopathic and criminal? It's not really hard for me to understand why anyone would see it as offensive. Now, i don't think Darnell's depiction is necessarily racist, but that's due to the fact that i don't think Lostraven is one by any means, and firstly, because he has come out every now and then explaining to us there is a depth in Darnell's personality that gives a coherent explanation on his behavior. But for anyone just starting the game, and that ignores said comments, it won't surprise if they find Darnell as a racist stereotyping. And even if they do, i still think of it as a valid claim, regardless that i disagree with it.
 
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That's an odd deduction, but's focused on ignoring the underlying context and the nature of Darnell's characterization rather than to actually adress it. "Because bestiality will feature in the game, any concern regarding Darnell should be discarded, as it's definitely in the same level and impact as the previous one, and therefore should be accepted as such" is a weak argument, i'm not criticizing you if you believe it, but i felt i had to say it. At least in my books, and anyone is free to disagree with me, a woman fucking a horse is in no shape or form an insult to any of us in our humanity. Now, a black character framed as specially violent, psicopathic and criminal? It's not really hard for me to understand why anyone would see it as offensive. Now, i don't think Darnell's depiction is necessarily racist, but that's due to the fact that i don't think Lostraven is one by any means, and firstly, because he has come out every now and then explaining to us there is a depth in Darnell's personality that gives a coherent explanation on his behavior. But for anyone just starting the game, and that ignores said comments, it won't surprise if they find Darnell as a racist stereotyping. And even if they do, i still think of it as a valid claim, regardless that i disagree with it.
We fap to terrible things. It's best (imo) to acknowledge that you don't control what excites you. And that you can compartmentalize, and being a jerk while, err, jerking or a make believe jerk while having sex with your (human) partner. I honestly wholeheartedly despise misogyny, but I fap to pretty extreme humiiation fantasies. Because is self-indulgence time and it works best if you act upon what it actually excites you. I believe the word for this is: kink.

So the point I was trying to make was: most probably (definitely) the black bull in cuck fantasies has racist roots. But It's not the job of the developers, especially indie niche porn games developers, to fix the world racism. They didn't invent this trope, and its not
like an outdated trope they are reviving, but a kind of modern trope popularized by mainstream porn sites. If that bothers you to the point you can't play it, that's of course ok. But don't ask a game that is going to be, hopefully, chock-full of offensive shit (like bestiality) to be a different game. Just skip it.
 

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Wow, he said the south will rise again stop the presses. Come on guys, this is an unrealistic amateur porn game, wait till Darnell fuck the MC's mother and sister before calling the internet police.
 
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Wow, he said the south will rise again stop the presses. Come on guys, this is an unrealistic amateur porn game, wait till Darnell fuck the MC's mother and sister before calling the internet police.
Love the profile pic, I actually have a blade runner tattoo IRL.
 
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wait this darnell character screws mc's mother and sister ?.. so ntr still in in the game?.. confused
 

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wait this darnell character screws mc's mother and sister ?.. so ntr still in in the game?.. confused
No. There's a separate optional route planned where NTR will happen. The default route is you stealing/seducing/whatever all the women.
 

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No. There's a separate optional route planned where NTR will happen. The default route is you stealing/seducing/whatever all the women.
so you avoid it then by picking the none ntr route then?. Is there some way to simple turn ntr on and of in the game?. So other scenes are similar in the start then even if you haven't selected a route?
 
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so you avoid it then by picking the none ntr route then?. Is there some way to simple turn ntr on and of in the game?. So other scenes are similar in the start then even if you haven't selected a route?
There are one or two scenes at the start of Darnell tormenting you, but they don't really qualify as NTR, and the beginning will need to go through another re-draft anyway to accommodate some changes. You turn off the NTR route by not selecting it and sticking with the default.
 

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There are one or two scenes at the start of Darnell tormenting you, but they don't really qualify as NTR, and the beginning will need to go through another re-draft anyway to accommodate some changes. You turn off the NTR route by not selecting it and sticking with the default.
so darnell dosen't do anything sexual without mother and sister ?, because if so that actually qualify as ntr atleast according to mangas :p
 

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so darnell dosen't do anything sexual without mother and sister ?, because if so that actually qualify as ntr atleast according to mangas :p
Darnell and other characters will fuck pretty much every girl silly if you choose the NTR route, otherwise, no, he will not sleep with any of the main cast on the main Route. The storyline vastly changes depending on your choices.
 

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Darnell and other characters will fuck pretty much every girl silly if you choose the NTR route, otherwise, no, he will not sleep with any of the main cast on the main Route. The storyline vastly changes depending on your choices.
so the scenes in the beginning are ntr then? i mean if they involve family members and such. Nvm would be easier to just have the ability to turn ntr on and of somehwere in the game. Im just confused, some people say that the ntr is still in there and some don't
 
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