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We fap to terrible things. It's best (imo) to acknowledge that you don't control what excites you. And that you can compartmentalize, and being a jerk while, err, jerking or a make believe jerk while having sex with your (human) partner. I honestly wholeheartedly despise misogyny, but I fap to pretty extreme humiiation fantasies. Because is self-indulgence time and it works best if you act upon what it actually excites you. I believe the word for this is: kink.

So the point I was trying to make was: most probably (definitely) the black bull in cuck fantasies has racist roots. But It's not the job of the developers, especially indie niche porn games developers, to fix the world racism. They didn't invent this trope, and its not
like an outdated trope they are reviving, but a kind of modern trope popularized by mainstream porn sites. If that bothers you to the point you can't play it, that's of course ok. But don't ask a game that is going to be, hopefully, chock-full of offensive shit (like bestiality) to be a different game. Just skip it.
I agree, but the problem relies whenever something is not inserted into the game as a fetish and is merely the developer's fucked up point of view. In that regard i backtrack on the user's original comment who started this whole debate "is it necessary?". In Taffy Tales, is Darnell's depiction an extension of a black bull, ntr, raceplay kink to be added in the game, an element with its own merit within the game's story not necessarily related to a fetish(as it is the case to me), or just the creator's prejudice projection?

Any wandering user has always the resource of skipping whatever is the content he/she is seeing. But as these items are always intertwined, it never hurts, i believe, to ask for clarification, or to start a debate around it, or just to tell your mind, without an actual intent of changing the game, just talking about some concerns. Specially in rather more complex forms of pornography such as these games. We're not talking about bleached/blacked/canadian'd porn captions, but games that creates rather large and very diverse communities around them.
 

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so the scenes in the beginning are ntr then? i mean if they involve family members and such. Nvm would be easier to just have the ability to turn ntr on and of somehwere in the game. Im just confused, some people say that the ntr is still in there and some don't
What? You're confusing me and I helped make the game. Iol. The scenes in the beginning are just Darnell being a dick, and after the re-draft you'll be able to tell him to fuck off during those scenes anyway. The 'REAL' NTR is a one time yes or no choice in the game.

The choice is redundant atm, as the NTR route has not been started other than on paper. So you are default on the main Route anyway.
 
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so the scenes in the beginning are ntr then? i mean if they involve family members and such. Nvm would be easier to just have the ability to turn ntr on and of somehwere in the game. Im just confused, some people say that the ntr is still in there and some don't
it'd be easy the way they're doing it to, just choose to tell darnell to fuck off when it's there, that's your on off switch
 

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so the scenes in the beginning are ntr then? i mean if they involve family members and such. Nvm would be easier to just have the ability to turn ntr on and of somehwere in the game. Im just confused, some people say that the ntr is still in there and some don't
Holy toledo guy. The scenes with Darnell molesting Becca, blackmailing Tiffany, and making vulgar comments to Mary are inescapable. They're what happens, no matter what. They're canon. They help to establish you as the player the reasons to NOT like Darnell. But, anything after that, with him being in any capacity with your "family" or your friends, that will be cut and dry, clear as day, completely OPTIONAL. Outright avoidable with a click of a button throughout the story. There won't be an "I don't even wanna have to make those button presses" switch to turn NTR off at the beginning.
 

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I agree, but the problem relies whenever something is not inserted into the game as a fetish and is merely the developer's fucked up point of view. In that regard i backtrack on the user's original comment who started this whole debate "is it necessary?". In Taffy Tales, is Darnell's depiction an extension of a black bull, ntr, raceplay kink to be added in the game, an element with its own merit within the game's story not necessarily related to a fetish(as it is the case to me), or just the creator's prejudice projection?
This is a reply to both of your previous comments build mostly on this section. Darnell was who he was prior to LR even getting involved (besides the drug dealing which is post LR involvement but might've always been in the script). He also predates the change in focus away from NTR. Thus leading to LR wanting to change the opening section yet again after toning it down a bit already.

Obviously I'm just as clueless as you are about the truth but it seems like Darnell was set up to be an NTR bull rather than just being a racist caricature.
 

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This is a reply to both of your previous comments build mostly on this section. Darnell was who he was prior to LR even getting involved (besides the drug dealing which is post LR involvement but might've always been in the script). He also predates the change in focus away from NTR. Thus leading to LR wanting to change the opening section yet again after toning it down a bit already.

Obviously I'm just as clueless as you are about the truth but it seems like Darnell was set up to be an NTR bull rather than just being a racist caricature.
He was set up to be an NTR bull and the drugs were in the script prior me.
However, there's been a lot of drastic changes, a lot of the caricature stuff was my pre-involvement.
When I came onto the project, I felt the immediate issue that needed dealing with was Clara, (which was very controversial), and actually getting some content into the game. I considered discussing a hard reset with Uber, but I thought the game simply didn't have the good will at the time to ask for that kind of patience from it's already tested audience, also Uber despises throwing out artwork/work, change is fine, but he hates having to trash stuff.

This game would look very very different had I not stepped in and worked with Uber, that I can guarantee.
 

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He was set up to be an NTR bull and the drugs were in the script prior me.
However, there's been a lot of drastic changes, a lot of the caricature stuff was my pre-involvement.
When I came onto the project, I felt the immediate issue that needed dealing with was Clara, (which was very controversial), and actually getting some content into the game. I considered discussing a hard reset with Uber, but I thought the game simply didn't have the good will at the time to ask for that kind of patience from it's already tested audience, also Uber despises throwing out artwork/work, change is fine, but he hates having to trash stuff.

This game would look very very different had I not stepped in and worked with Uber, that I can guarantee.
it's been nothing but quality (albeit adittmedly the slow releases are killing me) since the clara content patch. Idk when you stepped in but if you did it back then, gj man. Got me to support w/20 bucks once.
 

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I should be getting my hands on the alpha in approx a week, maybe a little before if we're lucky.

Moving forward we're probably gonna suspend the Supreme Pie tier after delivering the 3 Scripts already paid for. At least until the Mega updates are done.
 
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Moving forward we're probably gonna suspend the Supreme Pie tier after delivering the 3 Scripts already paid for. At least until the Mega updates are done.
Is this a one time donation sort of deal or are three people continually giving you guys $500 a month?
 

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Is this a one time donation sort of deal or are three people continually giving you guys $500 a month?
It's a one time donation as I understand it, but yeah, we've got more than enough work on our plates, I've seen some more of the artwork and the new OC and it looks great.
 

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It's a one time donation as I understand it, but yeah, we've got more than enough work on our plates, I've seen some more of the artwork and the new OC and it looks great.
I can't wait to see it as well.

I might do that then, eventually. Gotta see the Tiffany update first though because my ideas might be redundant at that point. Even if that's the case I still might fix it to work with the story. How much artistic license do these supreme pies get?
 

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NEWS SOON:

I can't wait to see it as well.

I might do that then, eventually. Gotta see the Tiffany update first though because my ideas might be redundant at that point. Even if that's the case I still might fix it to work with the story. How much artistic license do these supreme pies get?
Within reason, they give the gist and I translate the story into the game's terms with some reasonable modifications.
Generally, our Supreme Pies have been very pleased thus far, and if we can't deliver their idea in a satisfactory manner, we offer a refund, (which has yet to happen).

Though again we will be suspending this tier for a while, as the added pressure to try get this stuff in with the already colossal Mega scripts at the same time is perhaps a bridge too far with our resources now.
 

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Hello everyone :)

We are working around the clock to get as much done as we can with this update prior to the release. As you know, this is the First Mega update, and will largely focus on Becca and Clara, BUT, we have also tied it in with the first Supreme Pie Script, meaning you will be seeing an entirely new OC this update. (And yes, she will have a fair amount of content!).

We are hoping to have an Alpha ready for play-testing by next week at the latest, but this is an approximate time.
We will definitely have the update launched this month guaranteed however.

Thank you all for bearing with us through this transition period with your patience and support,
we hope by the time we've completed these three Mega updates, this game will be one of the best out there. :)

As we're drawing ever closer to the big release, here is a small teaser of the new OC.

I wonder what kind of bet they made? Looking at it, the stakes must be pretty high!
 

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Hello everyone :)

We are working around the clock to get as much done as we can with this update prior to the release. As you know, this is the First Mega update, and will largely focus on Becca and Clara, BUT, we have also tied it in with the first Supreme Pie Script, meaning you will be seeing an entirely new OC this update. (And yes, she will have a fair amount of content!).

We are hoping to have an Alpha ready for play-testing by next week at the latest, but this is an approximate time.
We will definitely have the update launched this month guaranteed however.

Thank you all for bearing with us through this transition period with your patience and support,
we hope by the time we've completed these three Mega updates, this game will be one of the best out there. :)

As we're drawing ever closer to the big release, here is a small teaser of the new OC.

I wonder what kind of bet they made? Looking at it, the stakes must be pretty high!
Goddamn, fastest hands in the West for posting our stuff good sir.
 

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Reminder please, is Becca or Clara the MC's sister ? I don't recall the names properly :unsure:
 
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