Java Tales of Androgyny [v0.3.52.1] [Majalis]

[Majalis (ToA)]

I like this game, but, damn, did the they make it a mess. They make 4 images a month and a couple of text encounters for the game with, I think, around 30 sex-able characters; each with 3-4 scenes worthy of being illustrated. Even with half of them done, that's still a couple of years just to clear all existing characters. And they keep adding them! And now they've added race/hair/eye variation on top of an already ambitious bust/arse/penis system! How the heck are they planning to finish this game without making absolutely massive cuts to the content quality/quantity?

Still, one of the best H-games out there.

We typically do more than four images a month, we just only list the top four as called-out updates. That's in addition to the idle animations for the characters, which we'll be all caught up on fairly soon. We also haven't added a character in a few months specifically to address this; though we do plan to add more at a slower pace than before. The last character added was the Dark Knight in May. We keep track of the remaining workload and plan things out accordingly.

Taking your math at face value, 30 characters times 3-4 (let's say 4) scenes is 120 illustrated scenes. If we've done half of them, that leaves 60. At a rate of 4 a month, that's a whopping... 1.25 years. Given that, as we said, our current pace is higher than 4/month, our pace will be faster when we're done with things like the idle animations and game UI, and that even if the game took a few more years to complete, our plan for finishing it would be obviously be "allow the Earth to revolve around the sun a few times more while we work on it", I think we're fine without absolutely massive cuts to the content quality/quantity. Honestly, in light of that math (which, again, we keep track of), we want to work on more detailed and expressive sex animations.

 

[Scotsman1989]

I am really hoping for more domme content from the brothel mistress, like after doing a bunch of her jobs she offers the MC a job as her personal assistant and upon accepting she uses the MC any way she likes, from a chair or footrest to worshipping her body and using them for sexual relief. It could be a decent way to save up some gold, just make sure to turn down a permanant position if offered. Also hoping for more female goblin with the possibility for willingly saying sod the fight lets have some fun scenes to a possibility of having her as a companion and finally more Urka the orc content a sexy dominant futa orc, SWEETNESS.

 

[Majalis (ToA)]

While I think this is an awesome addition to the game to allow people to customize their Hiro to their liking I do think you are jumping the gun here because like you said changing all that art that will be quite the major undertaking which brings me back to my initial point.

Why introduce these changes now since it will only reflect on the character screen and in the text cut scenes but not in any of the still images and sexual encounters? Of which these make up over 90% of the game instead of finishing things first like adding animation for the rest of the characters or adding story content?

This change would also break immersion for me instantly if I chose to play as a dark-skinned blonde only to see a pale white brunette the majority of the time? It's why for my mod I took the time to go through every single image and make sure each one matches up as best I can.

As far as Hiro goes there is just something about the new face that looks off to me. Maybe it's because I'm used to the old one and I just need some time to adjust. Once I get a chance to customize and play with her look maybe I will change my mind. Like I said I do very much like the little facial emotes. I also think the animation is much smoother now across the board as well.

I wish you continued success with the game and I look forward to the changes. As far as developers of these kinds of games no one else is your pier in terms of adding additional content in a timely fashion. I would just like to see some of the focus being given to the game side of things for change if I'm being honest. I would love to see the story mode really take off as well as additional quests made available and places to explore like caves and dungeons. Otherwise, this could have been all been done as a VN istead of an RPG but I'm glad it's not because it's the RPG aspects that drew me in the first place.

The whole game is a major undertaking. There's an obvious benefit to having the character customizable like this, and so we've decided it's worth it to do it, and people are quite pleased with it. The reality is that it's already immersion breaking not to have certain aspects of your character (for instance, the chastity cage) not reflected in the CG art, so we're going to have to have an engine in place for those things to be reflected anyway. And I reject the premise that having the character customization only reflected in certain places is pointless: it's actually ubiquitous in video games for that to be the case, where a character's armor, weaponry, race, or other customization might be reflected in some interface or other but not in-game cutscenes, or portraits, or other interfaces, etc. The more of that that's consistent, the better, of course, but it's not abnormal, and certainly not pointless, to have character customization that isn't universally applied, any more than it is to have mirrors that only reflect the player character, or only reflect the static elements of a scene.

As for the game side of things: right now I'm coding for more dynamic animation variation when it comes to things like expressions and gestures, new fonts and Cyrillic character support, new chastity cage and other cock adornments, and on the writing side I'm working on new prostitution scenes for Hiro, more Ogre scenes, alternate dialogue for various states of feminization, and when that's all done the next part of story mode. Explorable dungeons will come, but it'll have to wait. Story mode will be getting the brunt of the focus once everything that precedes it in either priority or dependency is done.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

I see no problem with those customizations being introduced, let people who like it enjoy.

 

[Jorja]

I will say it again. Old Hiro looks 100% better than new Hiro in every single way except for the hair. Sorry.

 

[ssj782]

Neither do I and I'm not arguing against choices. Choice is the very reason I started my mod in the first place for the simple reason that I couldn't make Hiro a redhead. But I also didn't release my mod until I had taken the time to update every single image to reflect that change.

All I did was state it was immersion-breaking and it will remain so until all the static images are updated to accommodate this change. That's a fact.

Any chance your mod could include the ability to change our costume without becoming a cumbucket? Because I really like the 'horse' costume, but the centaur thing kept getting me trapped over in the 2 location spot, and even asking to go back to town didn't let me.
I've seen 'bunny' and 'horse'. Haven't seen any others, yet. I was thinking about going after 'queen' next. I saw 'bitch' in the changelog, which I assume would be a werewolf based one. Is there a list of costumes?

 

[ssj782]

Can anyone tell me if there is an actualy image/scene list? Because the link on the first page is NOT one. I've followed it several times and had it not unlock a single scenes. The angel, for instance. None of the scenes listed actually give any image other than the face sitting, which I already had.

 

[max_002]

tag error:
Gay, Male protagonist
there is no such content in the game
the main character displays a tag: Futa / trans or shemale

 

[Deleted member 44741]

246 pages in and people still don't really understand the combat in this game.

This IS supposed to be a porn game, right? I don't understand why they made such a complicated and pain in the ass combat system to go with it.

The combat is mediocre at best. Either do it right or don't bother with it at all.
I don't understand why people accept a combat system like this.

tag error:
Gay, Male protagonist
there is no such content in the game
the main character displays a tag: Futa / trans or shemale

You have gay content in some of the Inn encounters. Trudy and that little elf guy are guys you can sex with. The ghost bride has an encounter where if you upset her, you get mindcontrolled and offer yourself to a bunch of bandit guys.
The protagonist is a guy crossdresser.

 

[Majalis (ToA)]

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I will say it again. Old Hiro looks 100% better than new Hiro in every single way except for the hair. Sorry.

The main changes to Hiro's face is that it's less blurry and his mouth is a little wider, and he has a more realistic jaw-line. We also inadvertently shortened his hair while we were breaking it up to be more animated, but we'll be lengthening it again as we add in haircuts. Most of the difference in the face erased if his head is tilted as it was before, a bit higher up and looking further away, but we've added rotation to his face, and by default, he's looking a bit more centrally at the viewer.

Name one game where I get to design my character and make him or her African-American and then have him appear as Caucasian in the cut scenes and other areas of the game.

In Diablo, you can play as a woman (Rogue) or African (Wizard) and the cutscenes have you as a white male. There are doubtless other examples, but you asked for one.

Why argue this point with me when it's obviously immersion-breaking regardless of any the reasons you stated? There is a major difference between what you are currently wearing in-game and wearing a different outfit in a prerendered cut scene as opposed from changing your race from black to white. Also, most modern games now use the in-game engine during cut scenes to avoid a snafu like this in the first place as far as cosmetic things are concerned.

Because my argument is that it's not that immersion-breaking, and how immersion-breaking something is has to be taken into consideration when it comes to game-development. That's why I brought up a mirror that only reflects the player character or only reflects background objects: it's not a waste to implement it that way, if doing a full implementation (all objects are reflected) would be too costly either on development time or performance-wise. In our case, we have to develop things in phases because of the short release cycle - we waited several weeks to add in the new animation at all because we wanted to make sure it was as fully baked as possible.

Again not saying choices are a bad thing and that they should not be there but maybe it would be better to have introduced it when it was 100% ready and thus made more sense at least to me. I think too much time is being spent tweaking and redoing things that are perfectly fine for now and since as you stated time is limited I think it would be better spent advancing the game.

I get that your the developer and you are going to do whatever you and the patrons want but that doesn't change the fact people are entitled to have their own opinions of which some may differ from yours.

This is ridiculous. You want us to work on something for months without introducing any part of it to the game?

You're entitled to your opinion, but it's clear that yours is biased. It bothers you that we're changing the animation file because it means more work for you, and you're annoyed that a planned feature for the game is, to some extent, obsoleting your mod. I don't know what else we've done to put a bee in your bonnet.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

tag error:
Gay, Male protagonist
there is no such content in the game
the main character displays a tag: Futa / trans or shemale

"But i am a boy!" so said Hiro.

Hiro can have sex with the inkeeper.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Can anyone tell me if there is an actualy image/scene list? Because the link on the first page is NOT one. I've followed it several times and had it not unlock a single scenes. The angel, for instance. None of the scenes listed actually give any image other than the face sitting, which I already had.

Try using the cheat option in the menu. That way you can have direct acess to the encounter.

 

[Quixe]

Anyone else think it's weird there's no otpion t o voverpower the the brothel mistress when you have high strength and, you know, report her to the guards for trying to murder you after you tell her she has a fat ass which is undeniably true? Plus it'd be fun to be able to take over the brothel fo yourself.

 

[ssj782]

Try using the cheat option in the menu. That way you can have direct acess to the encounter.

I've been using the encounter cheat. But actions you take are important when it comes to the images you get. For instance, only two or so enemies have an image that shows up when you give a combat blowjob or take it up the tale pipe.
And several scenes only show when you make specific responses or fail specific rolls.
So while the encounter cheat is 'nice', it's only part of the equation.

 

[Majalis (ToA)]

I've been using the encounter cheat. But actions you take are important when it comes to the images you get. For instance, only two or so enemies have an image that shows up when you give a combat blowjob or take it up the tale pipe.
And several scenes only show when you make specific responses or fail specific rolls.
So while the encounter cheat is 'nice', it's only part of the equation.

A recent vote decided that we'd add a scene viewer into the game that would let you just pick your branches at each point in the scene. We're working on that now in the background.

 

[max_002]

I have nothing against gays, maybe they are good people, I didn’t communicate with them personally, but in the game I still want to see the choice of which gender the character will be and other and other functions.
Thank you for understanding .

attached archive, these are examples of how to show the main character.

if necessary I can find another topic

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Keep the veiled bigotry to yourself max_002.

 

[ssj782]

A recent vote decided that we'd add a scene viewer into the game that would let you just pick your branches at each point in the scene. We're working on that now in the background.

That sounds perfect!
Any word on scenes not resetting when making a new character? I really like the Mouth Fiend scene escalation. But even with a brand new character she instantly begins at the 'bad end' carriage scene. Which sucks, because I quite enjoyed the previous parts.

 

[Kiaterra117]

how do i get urka in to my party i fought her and won many time wat do i do i looked tho the post but no one talks about urka the talk how to get the other 2 companions can anyone help me

 

[Majalis (ToA)]

That sounds perfect!
Any word on scenes not resetting when making a new character? I really like the Mouth Fiend scene escalation. But even with a brand new character she instantly begins at the 'bad end' carriage scene. Which sucks, because I quite enjoyed the previous parts.

Sounds like a bug if that's what's happening. There is an instant bad-end with her if you're wearing a ring gag when you encounter her. Otherwise, the quest flags should be reset when you make a new character, even if you do a quick start (hitting Continue after getting game over). Are you touching the save files directly at all?