Java Tales of Androgyny [v0.3.55.0] [Majalis]

[Twiton]

If someone wants to use pronounce of choice in-game, they can extract TalesOfAndrogyny.jar, go to the extracted folder, open script folder and then open encounters.json and change the pronounces themselves. After changing they need to repack extracted folder and replace TalesOfAndrogyny.jar.

The player then also needs to adjust the narrative writing, character dialogue, companion chatter also potentially, the in-game combat chatter, the mini-encounters too and also ensure they've not removed or altered dialogue that causes a text overflow. Maybe also proofread a few times, if they've got secondary perspectives from writing that they want to edit in after looking at the drafted changes again.

I could try and do that, believe me I've even discussed it on the Fan Server when talking about the feature, yet it's likely going to become a matter of replicating the writing style in several instances.

Having spent the good part of 3 Months recreating the writing of ToA, for Warmth, as well as recently doing extensive pouring through the JAR Script file, I can tell you it's a big undertaking for just someone who wants to do it instead of having the variants be implemented by Majalis . There's a LOT to go through, which will take even longer for someone not with a direct way of potentially asking for clarification about certain segments or word usage.

I joked earlier yesterday about how you'd answer some questions or clarify your gender in regards to some situations, that was me broaching the idea that there's going to be an interesting perspective for how Enemies/Characters treat you if you embrace a female identity. TBH, I'm actually even more interested in seeing it implemented, now that Majalis have clarified it a bit more I'm wishing I could vote on the option in the Polls like I used to.

 

[hellzznah]

Can we actually beat the demon king now? She just sits at 0 health and doesn't die.

 

[balitz Method]

You cannot infer from a mere lack of opposition how enthusiastically or seamlessly someone will perform a task. "I don't mind sweeping the floors; it's not a big deal" does not imply that the person volunteering to sweep the floors is going to do a half-assed job of it.

The majority of scenes don't really talk about Hiro's gender in a complex way. Dynamically swapping out pronouns, certain gendered terms like boy, bitchboy, man, etc. would handle most of them. The remaining would be similar to the chastity content - scenes which assume you have a usable penis need to either be omitted or altered, which is a matter of rooting out those scenes (possibly on a rolling basis, like we did with the chastity content) and flagging them, and then creating alternatives. Usually it's a single line or a few lines together that talk about Hiro being male; there are few if any extended sequences that involve someone talking about how much of a Masculine/Male Gendered Person Hiro is, and the scenes in which someone is referred to as a girl or feminine or female in a playful way can remain largely unchanged.

They kinda do, though. Maybe not through direct reference, but the emasculation/role reversal of getting butt-pounded is a very bread and butter theme for your scenes in this game and those don't make much sense from a feminine perspective. That's so pervasive that most every scene in the game either uses it directly or alludes to it, so making a roll-up-your-sleeves implementation of it would require a -lot- of work once you sit down and look for things like that.

Most of the variants you've got so far are either an extension of that appealing to a more extreme niche or something that meshes with it. This is something that goes against the grain of a good portion of your content as it exists, especially the older stuff, and this is why it comes down to it either becoming a major undertaking or a very very minor cosmetic change. If you're just looking at direct references then it falls into that latter category.

 

[Majalis (ToA)]

They kinda do, though. Maybe not through direct reference, but the emasculation/role reversal of getting butt-pounded is a very bread and butter theme for your scenes in this game and those don't make much sense from a feminine perspective. That's so pervasive that most every scene in the game either uses it directly or alludes to it, so making a roll-up-your-sleeves implementation of it would require a -lot- of work once you sit down and look for things like that.

Most of the variants you've got so far are either an extension of that appealing to a more extreme niche or something that meshes with it. This is something that goes against the grain of a good portion of your content as it exists, especially the older stuff, and this is why it comes down to it either becoming a major undertaking or a very very minor cosmetic change. If you're just looking at direct references then it falls into that latter category.

In your mind, what would the goal be of this feature?

 

[LostNumberXIII]

Decided to show Minotauress some love with a commission for twitter. Used this to practice some more on liquids.
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Don't ask me why, but this immediately came to mind when I saw the Minotauress's balls.

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[Hamoki]

can the devs tell me how much will it take to one day release a final version?

 

[Gerhumm]

It's been one zero day(s) since the last gender/sexuality related discussion in this thread!

 

[Twiton]

Don't ask me why, but this immediately came to mind when I saw the Minotauress's balls.

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Perfect to nuzzle against on a cold night.

im too lazy to look back, but someone commented on how this game isn't targeted at heterosexuals, which i completely disagree with. I enjoy all of what this game has to offer because its fictional, if i saw any of these "creatures" irl I would fucking have a heart attack, same goes for "women with dicks." I would gag at any dick irl. on that note, favorite character so far is the harpy lmao. Idk why i find a bird having a bird brain so cute, and once you "tame" the harpy it just becomes hmmmm, "endearing" i would say?

TBH, speaking of IRL, I was shocked at how well written the women are in this game as real people. Believable, interesting and just as horny as we would be in those situations. I'd for sure do the same, suck on their dicks if offered the chance, in the hope of making them either give off cute satisfied reactions or to establish a potential friendship/casual fuck relation.
Expanding on this, there's always a sense that I want to treat these characters nicely and with consideration. When it says the Brigand 'cried', if you try to shoo her away with low CHR, I had a moment of genuine sadness thinking we had just insulted her as a woman. Then, of course, I had to consider it was potentially more like a battle cry >_>

It's been one zero day(s) since the last gender/sexuality related discussion in this thread!

How many days has it been since a Brigand meme was posted?

 

[Evokerr]

so much in-depth discussion, meanwhile i'm simpler, i just want to look for the creamiest load!

 

[Twiton]

Work relations are a bit... strange, when you consider the more sadistically oppressive personalities of the Demon King's Forces.

 

[Twiton]

so much in-depth discussion, meanwhile i'm simpler, i just want to look for the creamiest load!

The next competitive event in the lands of Ironia... who has the creamiest load?

 

[Dexter1927]

I entirely misread their post. I thought they were saying they'd have a heart attack out of love and lust, upon seeing a monster girl in real life, then they'd be gagging on their dick with gusto. Yeah, now actually looking at the post it reads toxically as all hell.

not gonna lie i read the same thing as you , care to see how many will do the same mistake?

 

[UndeadEve]

I entirely misread their post. I thought they were saying they'd have a heart attack out of love and lust, upon seeing a monster girl in real life, then they'd be gagging on their dick with gusto. Yeah, now actually looking at the post it reads toxically as all hell.

Hopefully the woman with a dick that they do gag at, IRL, does make them gag on it as payback.

Oh...OH!
oh shit i got it wrong as well

not gonna lie i read the same thing as you , care to see how many will do the same mistake?

Add one more i guess

 

[Twiton]

I gotta say, the fact we take the Brigand's Sword in Story Mode (if you don't want her ass) is kind of mean if you realise

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Also, something that might be or might not be intentional, Brigand appears to be a Mountainman. Known for lower CHR, MAG and PER, all of which is exhibited in her encounters (CHR means to be Charasmatic, not simply attractive, while she's clearly non-magically gifted and we get the drop on her rather easily.), it also seems the closest skin tone if you compare the ones Hiro can be.


Highlanders, on the other hand, are interesting as they'd be from the South (a direction we can't go) and are known for Sailing. Tales of Androgyny 2: On The High Seas when?

 

[UndeadEve]

Highlanders, on the other hand, are interesting as they'd be from the South (a direction we can't go) and are known for Sailing. Tales of Androgyny 2: On The High Seas when?

Why did i get flashbacks from a really buggy mess of a game ?

 

[Twiton]

The Brothel scenes? The Town Square scenes?

It just feels weird to have a "feature" that has so limited impact on the game. I thought that those that would like to "avoid" "gay content" would be able to so by making use of this "Futa"+, but that just doesn't seem to be the case. Which leaves one wondering; what exactly was the intent behind it in the first place?

I also +1 the fact that the Brothel could do with more Futa content. Being able to choose our clients seems authentic to the info we know of Cindy. This could be potentially something they include with the Fetish Toggle feature, letting us instead remove the gendered terms from our sexual activities there or switch between Male and Futa with the option.

The Futa+ option could definitely do with more variants, things it affects, but the intent originally was since there was going to be more Male Characters it seems. Now we have plenty of non-art male characters in encounters/scenes, so there's less visual changes.

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[Wavering]

I also +1 the fact that the Brothel could do with more Futa content. Being able to choose our clients seems authentic to the info we know of Cindy. This could be potentially something they include with the Fetish Toggle feature, letting us instead remove the gendered terms from our sexual activities there or switch between Male and Futa with the option.

The Futa+ option could definitely do with more variants, things it affects, but the intent originally was since there was going to be more Male Characters it seems. Now we have plenty of non-art male characters in encounters/scenes, so there's less visual changes.

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less visual changes

True, although the "GenericOralPost" art and the "Riding Generic" art that is used in scenes for the Brigand does not really seem to represent them (as in the body type seen in the Generic art is way too masculine to be them, in my opinion).

Although, I guess on the topic of the "GenericOralPost" art, I also have the same "gripe" with the "BrigandCloseOral" art (with it being too masculine for the Brigand); so I'm well aware that that could just be my opinion due to a lack of character identification (seeing a feminine face / breasts).


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You mean these ones? View attachment 1224546
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Yep, those ones.

 

[Twiton]

True, although the "GenericOralPost" art and the "Riding Generic" art that is used in scenes for the Brigand does not really seem to represent them (as in the body type seen in the Generic art is way too masculine to be them, in my opinion).

Although, I guess on the topic of the "GenericOralPost" art, I also have the same "gripe" with the "BrigandCloseOral" art (with it being too masculine for the Brigand); so I'm well aware that that could just be my opinion due to a lack of character identification (seeing a feminine face / breasts).

You mean these ones?

I'd love a futa variant for the top one, for sure.

 

[happymansix2]

Is the newest patreon version gonna be uploaded soon?

 

[Twiton]

Is the newest patreon version gonna be uploaded soon?

The newest version is just the Monthly Build (which I don't believe ever gets new additions that the most recent previous weekly build have had.)