The adult games landscape 50 years from now

Mr_Ainz

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So as of right now there are various game developers, some which are great, some are good and some... well there’s all types of devs. Japan is still doing it's thing, it has always been a big market and it has expanded overseas. Western companies have appeared and more and more people are playing "porn games". Patreon paved the road for a lot of people to get into adult games development (for better or worse) and we have even had a lot of drama with devs that disappear, games that are abandoned, and all sorts of things.

I'd like to hear what do you think the future is going to look like, people in 50 years are going to discover adult games and it'll be different from what a lot of us experienced. I still remember playing Corruption of Champions and wasting hours discovering shit, or there being a handful of quality games. These people are going to play a finished Summertime Saga, AWAM and they won't know the disappointment from ICESTOR, Gumdrop Games, and a lot of other cases of abandonment, stale updates and more.

How much is the industry going to change? Will there be a place for adult games that serves as Steam (I know there are some games on Steam and there’s Itch.io)? Will devs drop Patreon? What are your thoughts?
 

zARRR

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So as of right now there are various game developers, some which are great, some are good and some... well there’s all types of devs. Japan is still doing it's thing, it has always been a big market and it has expanded overseas. Western companies have appeared and more and more people are playing "porn games". Patreon paved the road for a lot of people to get into adult games development (for better or worse) and we have even had a lot of drama with devs that disappear, games that are abandoned, and all sorts of things.

I'd like to hear what do you think the future is going to look like, people in 50 years are going to discover adult games and it'll be different from what a lot of us experienced. I still remember playing Corruption of Champions and wasting hours discovering shit, or there being a handful of quality games. These people are going to play a finished Summertime Saga, AWAM and they won't know the disappointment from ICESTOR, Gumdrop Games, and a lot of other cases of abandonment, stale updates and more.

How much is the industry going to change? Will there be a place for adult games that serves as Steam (I know there are some games on Steam and there’s Itch.io)? Will devs drop Patreon? What are your thoughts?
Wait…..


Finished Summertime saga?
 

zARRR

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..stranger things have happened.....
...can't think of any right now...but im sure they happened....
Indeed indeed, we need a list of all the batshit stuff that happened on F95.
..fam...i hope im fuckin dead in 50 years.....
...also doubt patreon will still be around by then.....
...gonna say...it's all either holodeck.....or full nerve gear shit....
Pretty much what Lerd0 said, we don’t even know if F95 will last this long lmao.
Most things will become relics of the past or completely forgotten.
Also if I am alive in 2073 god or the universe surely must hate me, and if I am still alive I ain’t thinking on my wheelchair: “Gee! I wonder how the porn community is doing!”
 
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Hagatagar

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You're forgetting the great Internet crash of 2043, when the Internet as we knew it was wiped out and then replaced with the globenet matrix, a fucking corporated controlled shit. They hate nudity and pornography so it's not allowed on there.
F95 has been trying to build its own Internet, but the only countries connected to it are Tonga and, for some reason, Liechtenstein.
 

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I still remember playing Corruption of Champions and wasting hours discovering shit, or there being a handful of quality games.
So, you remember the last decade of adult gaming, therefore nothing. The adult gaming scene started in 1981 with softporn, what make it 40 years old, and I've witnessed first hand 30 of those years. Globally speaking, what happened during those three decades are what I predict for the five following ones, the adult gaming scene will stay the same, because there isn't much difference between the adult games 30 years ago, and the adult games we have nowadays.
Knowing the past generally help you to have an overview of the future, it's time for uncle AON story:

The first adult game I bought was a Japanese RPG game like all the Japanese RPG adult game we actually have with RPG Maker. And I really mean the "like" part. Same mechanisms, same quality, just with a bit less color and... well, I wanted to say "a lower screen resolution", but I remembered that most RPG Maker games aren't full screen, so with the same screen resolution. There were also a lot of interactive games, a (big) bit like actual Ren'Py interactive visual novels, just with an interface that was more visual than textual ; so yeah, in a way they were better.
And of course there were many amateurs. Difficult to tell what was the proportion of professional studios and amateurs in the 80's, because it was prior to Internet. There were BBS to distribute them, but not this must share between them, so as individual you had access to just a part of the scene. And there were no easy way to get payed, what probably also limited the size of the amateur part of the scene, and the time they were ready to pass with their games.

The 90's were a turning point. Porn studios jumped on the scene and there were few games released everyday. But the quality and ambitions of their games was at the image of the quality and ambition of their movies ; some real gems, and many many cheap quickly done games. Globally speaking, the cheap games weren't really different from the HTML games using photography for their CGs. And there's a good reason for this, they were HTML games using photography for their CGs ; more precisely they where using the web technologies of this time (the, at this time, new coming flash, and the long time so forgotten similar technologies that I don't even remember their names).
But this lasted only a decade, from mid 90's to mid 00's. With the rise of Internet, came the fall of porn studios, and with them the fall of their games. Here starts the dark age of the adult gaming scene. Tons of amateurs, almost only amateurs. And they followed the trend started by porn studios, making flash "games" with their limited knowledge and drawing abilities. Since it was prior to PayPal and Patreon, getting payed for your creation was something easy, and like for games during the BBS era, those amateurs didn't invested much time in their games. There were some semi professional studios, less than a handful, but themselves weren't doing more than cheap flash games.
Those times were really depressing, adult games were 100 times worse than what we used to have, and 50 times worse than what we now have. Remember the cheapest Ren'Py/RPG Maker game you played, it was really a pure gem in regard of the games from these times.
It's only in the 10's, so globally one decade ago, that the scene rose again, leading to what we now know.



Yeah, I know, this is a bit depressing, adult games 40 years ago were already what adult games are nowadays. And there's high chances that adult games in 50 years will not be really different from the games we actually play.
What people dreaming of 4D real time VR interactive adult games are forgetting that the scene is and always was, limited by two factors:

1) Unless the porn industry rise again, professional studios will always be the exception.
It cost a lot to develop a professional game, and the income you can expect from them is way more limited than with regular games. Therefore, the most we will get from them will be at the image of what Illusion provide us ; a cheap copy of what regular games are.

2) Amateurs can only do what they can understand.
If most of Ren'Py games are VN, and most of Unity games are just a bit more advanced VN, it's not because those engines can't do more, but because they guys and girls using them don't have the knowledge to do more with them. Everything that Ren'Py can do with limited codding knowledge, you'll find it in most Ren'Py games, and the rest will be seen only when bored professionals decide to make a game. Same for Unity games, that will mostly goes as far as the selected template and plugins will let the creator goes.

Therefore, unless Ren'Py and RPG Maker successors provide an easy to use access to VR and 4D technologies, forget about them, you'll not find them in 90% of the adult games released in 50 years.
VR, yes, we will probably have it. Same for 3D games, and I mean 3D like in 3D movies, therefore images that goes out of your screen. But this will be because graphic cards and computer screens will be doing it natively. The instant you OS will be VR/3D, your games will also be it. So, yeah, we will probably have adult games that will looks like computers in Minority Report, but with the same difference in the quality that we actually witness.
 

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In 50 years we will all eat the bugs, own nothing, and be "happy". But seriously i don't wanna predict or imagine what will be in 50 years, shit changes quickly and unexpectedly. Like something first that go in mind: AI in some way was around us everywhere for a long time, but the next day you wake up and it booms, AI art wins the art context and artists crying AI will take their jobs, CharacterGPT and alternatives is a thing, we even have an AI twitch streamer now.

That aside and actually to the games, regarding devs i don't think anything will change really not in 50, not in 100 years. 0.01 or just shit games that will soon be abandoned or stalled for years made by absolutely incompetent people or legit scammers won't go anywhere, so are good devs and pure passion projects will stay too. It always been like that, especially in indie game industry. How many games do you really liked and remember vs and how many were produced in total thought the years. People like to say that games in the past were better, but many just remember the classics, the best ones. And ton of mediocre stuff and straight up garbage is just lost in time.

Patreon won't go anywhere that's for sure, or atlest the concept of patreon, monthly subscription for Early access to your alpha versions of the game with minimal changes for years, and for like 10$ a month. In a year people would pay for your unfinished shit more than for what costs today a one finished AAA game in Deluxe Edition. I cannot see how that is not ideal from the point of view of a dev, and why should the dev stop abusing it. But if i were to pick my poison, i definitely rooting for death of patreon and rise of Subsribestar or any alternative without the garbage rules that patreon enforces. Human with anthro furry sex = bestiality ? Suck my nuts patreon.

In years to come i think the future of adult games lies in VR and lovense type or gadgets. Especially when this tech stops being such a novelty anymore and prices will become much more reasonable. For me it just sounds like a really good idea, and i would want it to be true. I belive in general when VR will be really affordable for most people, not just porn but games in general will aim primarily on VR. But niche games and things like VNs and text games probably will stick for a very long time too, as long as people are still willing to read and also have imagination.
 

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People will be picking up old USB stick's with milfy city and big brother on them, while avoiding nuclear hellfire.
 

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In 50 years we will all eat the bugs, own nothing, and be "happy". But seriously i don't wanna predict or imagine what will be in 50 years, shit changes quickly and unexpectedly. Like something first that go in mind: AI in some way was around us everywhere for a long time, but the next day you wake up and it booms, AI art wins the art context and artists crying AI will take their jobs, CharacterGPT and alternatives is a thing, we even have an AI twitch streamer now.

That aside and actually to the games, regarding devs i don't think anything will change really not in 50, not in 100 years. 0.01 or just shit games that will soon be abandoned or stalled for years made by absolutely incompetent people or legit scammers won't go anywhere, so are good devs and pure passion projects will stay too. It always been like that, especially in indie game industry. How many games do you really liked and remember vs and how many were produced in total thought the years. People like to say that games in the past were better, but many just remember the classics, the best ones. And ton of mediocre stuff and straight up garbage is just lost in time.

Patreon won't go anywhere that's for sure, or atlest the concept of patreon, monthly subscription for Early access to your alpha versions of the game with minimal changes for years, and for like 10$ a month. In a year people would pay for your unfinished shit more than for what costs today a one finished AAA game in Deluxe Edition. I cannot see how that is not ideal from the point of view of a dev, and why should the dev stop abusing it. But if i were to pick my poison, i definitely rooting for death of patreon and rise of Subsribestar or any alternative without the garbage rules that patreon enforces. Human with anthro furry sex = bestiality ? Suck my nuts patreon.

In years to come i think the future of adult games lies in VR and lovense type or gadgets. Especially when this tech stops being such a novelty anymore and prices will become much more reasonable. For me it just sounds like a really good idea, and i would want it to be true. I belive in general when VR will be really affordable for most people, not just porn but games in general will aim primarily on VR. But niche games and things like VNs and text games probably will stick for a very long time too, as long as people are still willing to read and also have imagination.

I sense a whole lot of bitterness towards people who do minimal updates, have you ever tried making a game? Or do you just assume that we're all lazy. As for abandoned games it's a no brainer. Everyone hates 0.1 versions, but if no one says a thing, if no one plays them, if no one joins patreon during that time than maybe the dev is like well shit, this thing is a total flop, why bother continuing, just make another one and hope for the best. It's how it goes
 

bethrezen0

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I sense a whole lot of bitterness towards people who do minimal updates
I had my experiences with devs who love to stall and do almost nothing for years, don't take it personally unless you are someone like "cloud meadow" devs. Also depends on how frequent those minimal updates are and if dev sells them on patreon.
Yeah i don't belive that selling just bug-fixes or "look, in this build i improved how water looks in my porn game this month, pay me money!" is something acceptable, some of devs are becoming lazy because why to continue to do anything really if you can do nothing and still get payed around 15k a month. Otherwise sure, whatever. Everyone does things at their own pace.

Everyone hates 0.1 versions, but if no one says a thing, if no one plays them, if no one joins patreon during that time than maybe the dev is like well shit, this thing is a total flop, why bother continuing, just make another one and hope for the best. It's how it goes
Yeah, and dev makes another 0.1 game and cycle repeats, just spewing games that are not really anything yet, and will never be, maybe should first make an actual simple game, any game, Than imagine lots of ambitious shit in your head that you can't actually make into reality. Not exclusively related to games, but i know people IRL who are like that, just hopping from project to project without ever finishing anything, i even did this myself, but i never thought releasing it to public in a state of next to nothing is a good idea or ever thought of having a patreon to sell my attempts at doing "something".



have you ever tried making a game?
Isn't that - You can't complain about "X" if u haven't done "X" yourself. Classic. But Kinda, not really. Unless moslty default assets RPGM stuff, just for myself and to show to my friends and DOOM wads can count as games. But I am right now learning how to make an actual game on an actual engine.