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What makes "Lose for porn" stupid is that it goes aginst basic fucking game design. If I have to repeatedly kill myself against everything to see everything I'm just gonna ask for a gallery. If I get to fuck the boss after beating it, it makes beating it all the better because there's actually a reward. If I have to lose to it to see it I'm just gonna get annoyed at it if it's a hard boss, at which point the reason I'm playing the damn game buckles under the backwards "lose for porn" system, and I'll just scrounge up a full save and say "fuck the game"
 
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IamHisMaster

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What makes "Lose for porn" stupid is that it goes aginst basic fucking game design. If I have to repeatedly kill myself against everything to see everything I'm just gonna ask for a gallery. If I get to fuck the boss after beating it, it makes beating it all the better because there's actually a reward. If I have to lose to it to see it I'm just gonna get annoyed at it if it's a hard boss, at which point the reason I'm playing the damn game buckles under the backwards "lose for porn" system, and I'll just scrounge up a full save and say "fuck the game"
You just want a reward after a fight, but the whole premise of "lose for porn" is it's specifically made for submissive players who like to see their character get violated even if he's supposed to be stronger/better than the enemy.
If it's not to your liking just...skip it? I know that players will still enjoy the gameplay, even if it's "lose for porn"
 

DarkDaemonX

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Actually making progress?
Not really a reward when losing gives you a sex scene, it's like leveling up and getting drop rewards for losing in an RPG and getting nothing when you kill the enemy, it makes sense from a game design standpoint.

Almost makes it look like the dev thinks sex is bad and just a punishment.
 

joeys88

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Why play any porn game when you can play a game that does its mechanics better and look up porn later? You should just stop playing them altogether at this point. Go play Nightreign and jack off looking up r34 when you beat a nightlord to get the same experience you're describing from your desired game mechanics.

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defnotalt

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People like me enjoy game over porn. Just cuz it isn't for you doesn't make it "stupid".
It's simple, some people like myself enjoy femdom where you don't just 'lose' (get dominated) no matter what, you have the option to win so if you submit and lose that makes it so much more enjoyable, just because it isn't your kink doesn't make it "odd and stupid".
Or, hear me out, keep that but have it unlock the losing scene by also winning.

You do you if you want to actively lose every time, but unlocking losing scenes also on winning takes basically zero effort from the dev, and expands the audience that is going to tolerate/enjoy the game. Of course, that requires having a gallery, but at this point that should be the bare minimum for any R-18 game.

Some games focused on defeat scenes implement it in a way that your progress isn't really set back, and you can continue similarly as if you won. But unfortunately there aren't many of those. Being able to save progress on the spot just before the fights also makes this much more bearable.

If your progress is significantly set back by losing, forcing a loss *is* bad game design. It's just that a lot of R-18 devs have conditioned players to tolerate bullshit ass-backwards game design, all for the chance to get some JPEGs :KEK:
 
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To be honest, GoR as a trope is just really behind the times for what we want to see in nsfw games, it's best kept as extra scenes to give some sort of comiseration prize for losing to x enemy or x boss. The best uses of nsfw put into games are sexual acts either damaging the PC once but giving you a full scene or they are activated from knocking the PC down but otherwise don't damage them at all. Having to lose to get the only porn in the porn game is overdone, and honestly just boring.

I kind of suspect this game will likely have MxM content in the future, seems like a strange detail to have male monster enemies and get them naked but not have scenes with them. Also I hope in-game scenes will be added, hard to say if they will or won't be at this stage, but seeing how early this version is there's a lot of room to grow.
 
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Or, hear me out, keep that but have it unlock the losing scene by also winning.

You do you if you want to actively lose every time, but unlocking losing scenes also on winning takes basically zero effort from the dev, and expands the audience that is going to tolerate/enjoy the game. Of course, that requires having a gallery, but at this point that should be the bare minimum for any R-18 game.

You do realize that there are so many games that DO unlock the losing scene for winning, right?
 
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To be honest, GoR as a trope is just really behind the times for what we want to see in nsfw games, it's best kept as extra scenes to give some sort of comiseration prize for losing to x enemy or x boss. The best uses of nsfw put into games are sexual acts either damaging the PC once but giving you a full scene or they are activated from knocking the PC down but otherwise don't damage them at all. Having to lose to get the only porn in the porn game is overdone, and honestly just boring.

I kind of suspect this game will likely have MxM content in the future, seems like a strange detail to have male monster enemies and get them naked but not have scenes with them. Also I hope in-game scenes will be added, hard to say if they will or won't be at this stage, but seeing how early this version is there's a lot of room to grow.
As someone with the GoR and a fetish for "damaging" sex scenes, I really hate the second solution you bring as that just kinda flies in the face of what I enjoy about the game. The first solution is better than the second, but my main preference is to have both a "damaging" animation like that, and a game over animation/cg if your health hits 0. You can call it boring, but that's just you, I like it. Honestly it's baffling to me how people can start logically arguing how people "should" enjoy their kinky crap on the internet.
 

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I just don't get the thinking really. Game creator creates a setting where multiple things want to rape the MC. The MC doesn't want to have sex. They get defeated in battle and apparently nothing should happen.

If your progress is significantly set back by losing
You should probably play the demo before saying this because there are checkpoints everywhere.
 
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honwo

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Seems very promising so far. Combat feels good with good impact and animations and sound.
Checkpoints don't respawn enemies, so this can be abused to just go back and heal which can remove the challenge from any given level segment. Camera seemed a little high up for me at times, not allowing me to see where I will go when I drop down a platform. The boss homing in on whatever side you are on in the last moment of the animation seemed strange and a bit unfair.
Personally I think it would be cool if erotic animations (in side view) were also part of the gameplay, like enemies having erotic grabs once you are undressed and then player being able to struggle out of those grabs, I guess it all depends on the vision for the game.
 

xery_linu

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Seems very promising so far. Combat feels good with good impact and animations and sound.
Checkpoints don't respawn enemies, so this can be abused to just go back and heal which can remove the challenge from any given level segment. Camera seemed a little high up for me at times, not allowing me to see where I will go when I drop down a platform. The boss homing in on whatever side you are on in the last moment of the animation seemed strange and a bit unfair.
Personally I think it would be cool if erotic animations (in side view) were also part of the gameplay, like enemies having erotic grabs once you are undressed and then player being able to struggle out of those grabs, I guess it all depends on the vision for the game.
I think it would be nice if the eroticism could also be generated by being contacted while down, since you go down when you are hit by a strong attack (anyway, it is not enough that femdom is only at game over).
 
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This is fucking amazing I am so ready for more. Also, the level design and amount of enemies is good, but tbh the lack of content... inspires me to maybe put my shit out there with even less stuff completed, lmao...
 

EthMoon

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There sure is a lot of bitching in this thread. Having a "downed" state is a good compromise, since it wastes the player's time less, but whatever suits the dev's vision is best.

Also wanted to mention that jumping repeatedly breaks the AI of the club goblins pretty hard.

This is a promising start.
 
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