nitu23

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Anyone else think it's weird that the MC suddenly has some kind of moral code about dosing someone (Tasha) that they're trying to "build a relationship" with? Where was that moral compass when you dosed literally anyone else in the game?
 
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jaboney

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Im a fan of the art. Not looking towards the long time it would take to make the game mostly art. I would be ok with a Hybrid version until more is 'remastered'
 

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Anyone else think it's weird that the MC suddenly has some kind of moral code about dosing someone (Tasha) that they're trying to "build a relationship" with? Where was that moral compass when you dosed literally anyone else in the game?
Welcome to the human race... We're weird that way.
 
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At first I was excited to see artwork attached to the game, as I am an artist who also appreciates when other artists get to put their work out into as many venues as possible. However, I gradually got more and more disappointed as all the females have ridiculous proportions that I have no interest in. At least in the real porn version there is a fairly wide variety of body types.
I'm so tired of every game being populated with breasts the size of watermelons along with huge asses and thighs...not at all what I consider attractive or erotic.
 

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At first I was excited to see artwork attached to the game, as I am an artist who also appreciates when other artists get to put their work out into as many venues as possible. However, I gradually got more and more disappointed as all the females have ridiculous proportions that I have no interest in. At least in the real porn version there is a fairly wide variety of body types.
I'm so tired of every game being populated with breasts the size of watermelons along with huge asses and thighs...not at all what I consider attractive or erotic.
I hate this art. The real porn feels so much better
 

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Using the ART style should allow the images to be better fitted to the scene descriptions rather than having to fit the scenes around the live images.
That might be the case moving forward, hopefully. Trouble is that a lot of the early scenes in the game have very clearly been written to fit the real porn available to the dev, so the drawn images are just trying to fit into those very specific scenarios, mostly by directly imitating poses and expressions from the photos/gifs. Chapter 1 is not a great showcase for the new direction in that regard.

But yeah, in future it should be helpful to not have a real life cis woman as the model for Tasha, and drawn art might be able to maintain some consistency between the various transformed versions of the MC and other characters which just using pictures of different actors couldn't.

Anyone else think it's weird that the MC suddenly has some kind of moral code about dosing someone (Tasha) that they're trying to "build a relationship" with? Where was that moral compass when you dosed literally anyone else in the game?
It's a weird trap you can get caught in if for some reason you don't dose Tasha for a few weeks. Not great design.
 
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hanwen1234

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Huh, Westane's actually trying for art now?

That's pretty good. Already I'm probably gonna miss the old real-images, but with the need to write scenes around a increasingly smaller number of images and gifs gone, I'm sure we'll have more...creative scenes.

And if y'all are complaining about the artstyle, it's a separate release for a reason. , so if you wanna chip in on the artstyle, there's the survey.
 

HaseoOfDeath

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Huh, Westane's actually trying for art now?

That's pretty good. Already I'm probably gonna miss the old real-images, but with the need to write scenes around a increasingly smaller number of images and gifs gone, I'm sure we'll have more...creative scenes.

And if y'all are complaining about the artstyle, it's a separate release for a reason. , so if you wanna chip in on the artstyle, there's the survey.
Art is an option, not a replacement. Unless porn companies tell him to stop, he will not be removing real porn in any degree even when the game is fully finished.
 
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nitu23

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Welcome to the human race... We're weird that way.
It wouldn't bug me so much if it was at least internally consistent, but it's not. The basis of Sophie's relationship path is entirely built upon dosing her to be more comfortable around you. You can pursue a relationship with Penny, and then also dose her to either work her ass off after hours to make your life easier, or... work her ass off around the office. It's just weird that with Tasha the MC is suddenly like "Oh, that would be wrong, I like Tasha."
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John's whole relationship is about completely altering his personality to "make him a better person" OR overwriting his body and mind as revenge for being a dick.
 

Virulenz

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How are people still bringing up the John updates? That was 4 years ago!

Plus, he just released a Diana update and about to release another one in a month. Either people have the shortest attention spans in the world or they become hyperfocused on one thing and ONLY that thing.
Because it was a massive waste of time? Because every lesbian (like me) skips john from the beginning?

Yepp, thats me, hyperfocused on the fucking story and hoping it will go on before i die of old age.
 
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Snugglepuff

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It wouldn't bug me so much if it was at least internally consistent, but it's not.
To be fair, it is pretty consistent.
It's another dosing path (of sorts) that's consistent with ways in which the MC's choices of which dose paths we take them down.

Although the issue itself is one that stems from her having originally being a normal woman, then made a transwoman during development, and only recently getting the possibility of having her be transformed into a completely biological woman (again) via magic - Saya visting her in her dreams too.
There honestly does need to be an alternative for her transformation other than magic. Something involving the extremely effective body altering, dna rewriting TFM-1 serum.

The basis of Sophie's relationship path is entirely built upon dosing her to be more comfortable around you.
That's one of 3 paths with her.
MC can dose her to be more open and intimate - Romantic path
Be more sexually open and available and submissive to the MC - Slutty, which also leads into the third part where a MC with low dominance gets dominated by her.

You can pursue a relationship with Penny, and then also dose her to either work her ass off after hours to make your life easier, or... work her ass off around the office.
Don't forget you can take it as far as having her be her own human test subject... That's a pretty fucked up thing for the MC to do, arguably more than dosing her to be our own whore to pimp out to faceless office workers.

It's just weird that with Tasha the MC is suddenly like "Oh, that would be wrong, I like Tasha."
Except that Penny doesn't have to be dosed at all (beyond plot-related CMD test), as you mentioned.
She's interested in the MC and can be a more "wholesome" love interest. As wholesome as can be at least within the setting.

Not dosing Tasha is another example of the "nicer" side of the MC, as much as more "positive" dosing of others leads to more pleasant outcomes, and is consistent with not dosing Penny.

John's whole relationship is about completely altering his personality to "make him a better person" OR overwriting his body and mind as revenge for being a dick.
In John's case, it's as much if not more so about survival within the company. He's a threat to the MC that can take over with most of the women, even Tasha.
We can be "nice" and just make him more pleasant to work with, even as far as a romantic/consensual interest. We can be particularly nasty and turn him into a male fucktoy who's brain's been messed with making him subservient and incapable of fighting back (still unfinished), and finally there's the Chanel option.

Julia we can try and fail to dose, or just be nice to her (along with John when making him more pleasant/friendly)... Except when she makes herself a threat to everyone in the office.

Before her current rework (aka her previous rework), Diana used to have a non-Dose sexual interest path, as well as light (only getting her to share information more freely) and heavier (personal office slut) dosing paths that preceded what happens to her at HQ.

The choices we make shape our MC into being a "nicer" accomplice of human sex trafficking and potential world domination, or someone who's revelling in the power they can wield over others, and also somewhere in between the two extremes.
 

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I do have to give him credit for, even after all this time, finding new ways to avoid progressing the actual plot
This is such a perfect line that could be applied to soooo many games on this site, I need to steal it.
I hate this art. The real porn feels so much better
Same, I generally prefer daz or original 2d art to real porn because it's more personalized, but this stuff is just ugly.
 

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Am thinking, have a mod that would add tons of rape scenes in home scenarios. Not like rape-rape, but sex that is going to happen whether the MC likes it or not. Like, "Y-you're just doing what you want!" You know what I mean. MC never requests the sex "stop" or says "no". Sex thats going to happen that you didn't ask for, that you're caught off guard, not ready for.
Its going to make you late, you're going to miss your appointment, "but I'm still eating", "ahh.. I'm on the phone", "but you're my sister's/mom's boyfriend", "Y-you just decided that yourself!", "oh shit.. you guys.. come on"

Theres a lot of opportunity for this. I think the gist of it would be that, some enemy of yours could frame you in lots of different situations making lots of your relationships sort of irked at you and that theres a debt that needs to be paid.
So your mom and sis are going to use you for their entertainment. And not a lot of lesbian stuff except futa ava/trans tasha.
Most would be partners of mom or sister. Pornstars studs for shoots that your sister volunteers you for. Mom's gangbang house parties that she volunteers you and your sister for.

Theres constantly strange men staying the night who will still be there in the morning.
Sometimes your mom's boyfriend will be fucking Dakota in the morning before work.
Sometimes your sister's boyfriend will be fucking Ava in the morning before work.
Sometimes your mom and sis will actually be fucking their own boyfriends :p
You'll often be made to clean the cum out of/off of everyone before you're allowed to leave for work.
And after your mom's orgies, thats a lot of dicks to clean up. Would be awful if anyone decided to fuck your mouth afterward. That might cause a fullscale blowbang and make you miss breakfast, sending you to work in the morning with a stomach full of something else.

You would always have an event before going to bed and when waking up. The circumstances would be different. Maybe you're being prostituted out. Maybe your futa mom getting satisfaction. Maybe your sister filming porn that you're staring in.
Maybe your honorary stepdad getting to know you better. Maybe your futa mom and her boyfriend both getting some satisfaction (kinky idea: both of them crowding your womb and using you to grind into each other, squashing you like a panini while they make out and ignore you)
Maybe your sister riding your face with her still sex-messed pussy, while her boyfriend pounds you. Maybe your futa mom and her boyfriend spitroast you.
Lots of configurations, but always going to sleep with, and waking up to, an inappropriate dick trying it's best to give your mom grandkids.

Maybe call it "This Is Not A Safe Space"
 
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