What's your favorite character at this point of the game?

  • Cherie

    Votes: 1,301 27.1%
  • Lana

    Votes: 1,183 24.6%
  • Elfie

    Votes: 837 17.4%
  • Gabbie

    Votes: 479 10.0%
  • Angela

    Votes: 542 11.3%
  • Mia

    Votes: 422 8.8%
  • Chanel

    Votes: 18 0.4%
  • Julia

    Votes: 23 0.5%

  • Total voters
    4,805

123tk

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The contents suck, shallow, boring, not just the porn but also the story, even if you had cheat code to access full contents, there is not much to see, only under-average basic stuff you see elsewhere (but free), anyone paid to get access would feel like getting still frozen meal in plastic when expect to get basic fast food (come on, you shouldn't expect more if read some reviews and come to this page)
 

kuracdopoda

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Feb 26, 2022
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The contents suck, shallow, boring, not just the porn but also the story, even if you had cheat code to access full contents, there is not much to see, only under-average basic stuff you see elsewhere (but free), anyone paid to get access would feel like getting still frozen meal in plastic when expect to get basic fast food (come on, you shouldn't expect more if read some reviews and come to this page)
100 % targeted at Trump voters ,they will pay for just about anything
 
Mar 6, 2019
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This game is crazy, and I don't mean that in a great way. It has all the systems I like, love/lust routes, gathering and crafting, growing food, combat, physical character growth, you get the idea. Sounds like it would be a fun game for me to play but it isn't. All of those mechanics are implemented in such a horrifically grindy way, and are so entwined with each other, that this game gets unplayable very very quickly. To live, you need food, alright cool, go to the forest and play a chance based minigame to hunt, if you don't like the sound of that you can play a chance based minigame with a different skin to gather plants, and if you don't like that you can play a chance based minigame with some skill mixed in to fish. If you grind enough materials you can build a farm, where you can grow a grand total of 3 plants, that you must babysit to produce any worthwhile food.

Very soon after starting you need to start going deeper into the different zones, to do so you need to fight girls or grind love/lust on other girls depending on what spot you are in, How do you grind love/lust? Well fighting girls for a chance of getting an item that slightly increases your chosen stat of course. How do you get stronger? Grinding for items, grinding for materials to upgrade those items, or fighting girls. How do you get the materials to upgrade items? Yep! Random chance drops from fighting girls, using slaves to raid zones, and clicking over and over again to grind. Every time you complete one of the events to unlock a deeper part of a zone, you have to take a girl as a prisoner. That's fine. Until you need to build a prison so you can grind materials to get stronger so you can beat harder girls to get deeper in zones, because every prisoner you have also consumes food the second the prison is built.

Okay that's fine, don't build the prison until you need to (around 4 prisoners) and just grind food for a while until you can easily sail past the point where those prisoners will eat more food than you can produce right? Wrong. Earlygame food production levels are so laughably low that you might be able to get enough to stay fed for 10 days without going insane grinding, to get access to better foods you need to cook them or go deeper in the zones to find them, cooking in the early game gives such little increases in food that its not worth it and as stated you cannot go deeper in zones without building a prison to farm materials to upgrade your gear. Alright fine, build the prison, rush materials, get deeper in zones. Nah. You have enough slaves to do it because you have had to fight hundreds of women at this point, but you also need FOOD and a ton of it. Days worth of food just to farm a single god damned item, to spend more materials so you can upgrade one single item to its second worst variant, except you can't. Because you need to build a new room so you can train yourself to get the crafting levels you need to build the item.

Alright, all is not lost yet. Twine is easy to cheat, download twinehacker, all good. Wrong. The dev has intentionally made it so starting twinehacker pauses the game so no changes made save. Alright how do you unlock the in game cheats? Pay the dev OR play the game like 50 real life days in a row to unlock enough PREMIUM FUCKING CURRENCY to buy an UPGRADED ACCOUNT??????? Oh and you can use that premium currency to buy lootboxes too, what is in them? Who knows, it costs 100 currency for the cheapest one, and you get one coin per day you log in.

Fine, just save scum fights to get the materials you need and so you can always do the best attacks in the WHEEL SPIN BASED COMBAT SYSTEM?????????????? Nope, the dev has thought of that too, somehow, the game saves the combat state, and if you try to revert to an earlier round in the fight, it just loads the same state you were on. Alright maybe exiting the game and starting again to load from a clear slate? Nope it resets the fight.

Alright, alright, what about the porn. What porn? lmao. You will be spending all of your relationship upgrade items on the side characters so you can progress the zones, you won't be able to unlock scenes with the main girls, and the scenes with the side girls are you two going on an adventure which culminates in you fucking a different girl and taking her prisoner, increasing your food needs. Realistically you will find porn in this game in two ways. Taking a girl prisoner, which will very much ruin your "run" or unlocking non canon (Or at least non main story) events by having an upgraded account via playing the game many, many, real life days in a row/being a patron. I do not believe there are even any main storyline penetration scenes with any of the main or even side girls. 2 years in.

This game is hell. Someone in purgatory with this game as their only entertainment would give it up a few hours in and walk into the endless void to never look back. This game was one I played the first build released on this website, that I gave countless chances because I loved the idea of it so much, only to be disappointed and betrayed at every turn, at every update, and I just cannot stand it any more. Normally, I disagree with the review scores given to most games on this site. This is the only one I can 100% say is accurately portraying my exact thoughts about the state of the game. Is there potential in this game? Yes, there is a ton of it. Do I expect it to have an epic No Man's Sky or Cyberpunk 2077 style comeback where the issues are fixed and everyone loves it finally? No, I don't. For two years this game has been reworked, refreshed, mechanics rebalanced and replaced, and the sad part is that sometimes the dev got it right, just to change it again in the next few updates.

My advice for the dev? Take a step back. Read what people are saying, without getting defensive as you are known to do. Take criticism for what it is: People who see the potential this game has, trying to help you take advantage of it. Take a break and maybe go and enjoy a hobby for a few months, come back with an idea of how you can try to repair both the game's balance, and the community's trust in the game. I'd recommend a rebalance to get rid of grind, and maybe cut down on the amount of items perhaps a base item and one upgraded version, there's no reason why each item needs to have 3-4 increasingly powerful versions of it, very few people are going to take the (I assume) intended path of upgrading each item incrementally especially considering the sheer cost in food when obtaining the coins needed to upgrade.
 

porndude33

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Apr 5, 2020
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This game is crazy, and I don't mean that in a great way. It has all the systems I like, love/lust routes, gathering and crafting, growing food, combat, physical character growth, you get the idea. Sounds like it would be a fun game for me to play but it isn't. All of those mechanics are implemented in such a horrifically grindy way, and are so entwined with each other, that this game gets unplayable very very quickly. To live, you need food, alright cool, go to the forest and play a chance based minigame to hunt, if you don't like the sound of that you can play a chance based minigame with a different skin to gather plants, and if you don't like that you can play a chance based minigame with some skill mixed in to fish. If you grind enough materials you can build a farm, where you can grow a grand total of 3 plants, that you must babysit to produce any worthwhile food.

Very soon after starting you need to start going deeper into the different zones, to do so you need to fight girls or grind love/lust on other girls depending on what spot you are in, How do you grind love/lust? Well fighting girls for a chance of getting an item that slightly increases your chosen stat of course. How do you get stronger? Grinding for items, grinding for materials to upgrade those items, or fighting girls. How do you get the materials to upgrade items? Yep! Random chance drops from fighting girls, using slaves to raid zones, and clicking over and over again to grind. Every time you complete one of the events to unlock a deeper part of a zone, you have to take a girl as a prisoner. That's fine. Until you need to build a prison so you can grind materials to get stronger so you can beat harder girls to get deeper in zones, because every prisoner you have also consumes food the second the prison is built.

Okay that's fine, don't build the prison until you need to (around 4 prisoners) and just grind food for a while until you can easily sail past the point where those prisoners will eat more food than you can produce right? Wrong. Earlygame food production levels are so laughably low that you might be able to get enough to stay fed for 10 days without going insane grinding, to get access to better foods you need to cook them or go deeper in the zones to find them, cooking in the early game gives such little increases in food that its not worth it and as stated you cannot go deeper in zones without building a prison to farm materials to upgrade your gear. Alright fine, build the prison, rush materials, get deeper in zones. Nah. You have enough slaves to do it because you have had to fight hundreds of women at this point, but you also need FOOD and a ton of it. Days worth of food just to farm a single god damned item, to spend more materials so you can upgrade one single item to its second worst variant, except you can't. Because you need to build a new room so you can train yourself to get the crafting levels you need to build the item.

Alright, all is not lost yet. Twine is easy to cheat, download twinehacker, all good. Wrong. The dev has intentionally made it so starting twinehacker pauses the game so no changes made save. Alright how do you unlock the in game cheats? Pay the dev OR play the game like 50 real life days in a row to unlock enough PREMIUM FUCKING CURRENCY to buy an UPGRADED ACCOUNT??????? Oh and you can use that premium currency to buy lootboxes too, what is in them? Who knows, it costs 100 currency for the cheapest one, and you get one coin per day you log in.

Fine, just save scum fights to get the materials you need and so you can always do the best attacks in the WHEEL SPIN BASED COMBAT SYSTEM?????????????? Nope, the dev has thought of that too, somehow, the game saves the combat state, and if you try to revert to an earlier round in the fight, it just loads the same state you were on. Alright maybe exiting the game and starting again to load from a clear slate? Nope it resets the fight.

Alright, alright, what about the porn. What porn? lmao. You will be spending all of your relationship upgrade items on the side characters so you can progress the zones, you won't be able to unlock scenes with the main girls, and the scenes with the side girls are you two going on an adventure which culminates in you fucking a different girl and taking her prisoner, increasing your food needs. Realistically you will find porn in this game in two ways. Taking a girl prisoner, which will very much ruin your "run" or unlocking non canon (Or at least non main story) events by having an upgraded account via playing the game many, many, real life days in a row/being a patron. I do not believe there are even any main storyline penetration scenes with any of the main or even side girls. 2 years in.

This game is hell. Someone in purgatory with this game as their only entertainment would give it up a few hours in and walk into the endless void to never look back. This game was one I played the first build released on this website, that I gave countless chances because I loved the idea of it so much, only to be disappointed and betrayed at every turn, at every update, and I just cannot stand it any more. Normally, I disagree with the review scores given to most games on this site. This is the only one I can 100% say is accurately portraying my exact thoughts about the state of the game. Is there potential in this game? Yes, there is a ton of it. Do I expect it to have an epic No Man's Sky or Cyberpunk 2077 style comeback where the issues are fixed and everyone loves it finally? No, I don't. For two years this game has been reworked, refreshed, mechanics rebalanced and replaced, and the sad part is that sometimes the dev got it right, just to change it again in the next few updates.

My advice for the dev? Take a step back. Read what people are saying, without getting defensive as you are known to do. Take criticism for what it is: People who see the potential this game has, trying to help you take advantage of it. Take a break and maybe go and enjoy a hobby for a few months, come back with an idea of how you can try to repair both the game's balance, and the community's trust in the game. I'd recommend a rebalance to get rid of grind, and maybe cut down on the amount of items perhaps a base item and one upgraded version, there's no reason why each item needs to have 3-4 increasingly powerful versions of it, very few people are going to take the (I assume) intended path of upgrading each item incrementally especially considering the sheer cost in food when obtaining the coins needed to upgrade.
Bro said everything that should have been said a long time ago.
I hope the dev actually listens for once
 
Nov 15, 2021
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This game is crazy, and I don't mean that in a great way. It has all the systems I like, love/lust routes, gathering and crafting, growing food, combat, physical character growth, you get the idea. Sounds like it would be a fun game for me to play but it isn't. All of those mechanics are implemented in such a horrifically grindy way, and are so entwined with each other, that this game gets unplayable very very quickly. To live, you need food, alright cool, go to the forest and play a chance based minigame to hunt, if you don't like the sound of that you can play a chance based minigame with a different skin to gather plants, and if you don't like that you can play a chance based minigame with some skill mixed in to fish. If you grind enough materials you can build a farm, where you can grow a grand total of 3 plants, that you must babysit to produce any worthwhile food.

Very soon after starting you need to start going deeper into the different zones, to do so you need to fight girls or grind love/lust on other girls depending on what spot you are in, How do you grind love/lust? Well fighting girls for a chance of getting an item that slightly increases your chosen stat of course. How do you get stronger? Grinding for items, grinding for materials to upgrade those items, or fighting girls. How do you get the materials to upgrade items? Yep! Random chance drops from fighting girls, using slaves to raid zones, and clicking over and over again to grind. Every time you complete one of the events to unlock a deeper part of a zone, you have to take a girl as a prisoner. That's fine. Until you need to build a prison so you can grind materials to get stronger so you can beat harder girls to get deeper in zones, because every prisoner you have also consumes food the second the prison is built.

Okay that's fine, don't build the prison until you need to (around 4 prisoners) and just grind food for a while until you can easily sail past the point where those prisoners will eat more food than you can produce right? Wrong. Earlygame food production levels are so laughably low that you might be able to get enough to stay fed for 10 days without going insane grinding, to get access to better foods you need to cook them or go deeper in the zones to find them, cooking in the early game gives such little increases in food that its not worth it and as stated you cannot go deeper in zones without building a prison to farm materials to upgrade your gear. Alright fine, build the prison, rush materials, get deeper in zones. Nah. You have enough slaves to do it because you have had to fight hundreds of women at this point, but you also need FOOD and a ton of it. Days worth of food just to farm a single god damned item, to spend more materials so you can upgrade one single item to its second worst variant, except you can't. Because you need to build a new room so you can train yourself to get the crafting levels you need to build the item.

Alright, all is not lost yet. Twine is easy to cheat, download twinehacker, all good. Wrong. The dev has intentionally made it so starting twinehacker pauses the game so no changes made save. Alright how do you unlock the in game cheats? Pay the dev OR play the game like 50 real life days in a row to unlock enough PREMIUM FUCKING CURRENCY to buy an UPGRADED ACCOUNT??????? Oh and you can use that premium currency to buy lootboxes too, what is in them? Who knows, it costs 100 currency for the cheapest one, and you get one coin per day you log in.

Fine, just save scum fights to get the materials you need and so you can always do the best attacks in the WHEEL SPIN BASED COMBAT SYSTEM?????????????? Nope, the dev has thought of that too, somehow, the game saves the combat state, and if you try to revert to an earlier round in the fight, it just loads the same state you were on. Alright maybe exiting the game and starting again to load from a clear slate? Nope it resets the fight.

Alright, alright, what about the porn. What porn? lmao. You will be spending all of your relationship upgrade items on the side characters so you can progress the zones, you won't be able to unlock scenes with the main girls, and the scenes with the side girls are you two going on an adventure which culminates in you fucking a different girl and taking her prisoner, increasing your food needs. Realistically you will find porn in this game in two ways. Taking a girl prisoner, which will very much ruin your "run" or unlocking non canon (Or at least non main story) events by having an upgraded account via playing the game many, many, real life days in a row/being a patron. I do not believe there are even any main storyline penetration scenes with any of the main or even side girls. 2 years in.

This game is hell. Someone in purgatory with this game as their only entertainment would give it up a few hours in and walk into the endless void to never look back. This game was one I played the first build released on this website, that I gave countless chances because I loved the idea of it so much, only to be disappointed and betrayed at every turn, at every update, and I just cannot stand it any more. Normally, I disagree with the review scores given to most games on this site. This is the only one I can 100% say is accurately portraying my exact thoughts about the state of the game. Is there potential in this game? Yes, there is a ton of it. Do I expect it to have an epic No Man's Sky or Cyberpunk 2077 style comeback where the issues are fixed and everyone loves it finally? No, I don't. For two years this game has been reworked, refreshed, mechanics rebalanced and replaced, and the sad part is that sometimes the dev got it right, just to change it again in the next few updates.

My advice for the dev? Take a step back. Read what people are saying, without getting defensive as you are known to do. Take criticism for what it is: People who see the potential this game has, trying to help you take advantage of it. Take a break and maybe go and enjoy a hobby for a few months, come back with an idea of how you can try to repair both the game's balance, and the community's trust in the game. I'd recommend a rebalance to get rid of grind, and maybe cut down on the amount of items perhaps a base item and one upgraded version, there's no reason why each item needs to have 3-4 increasingly powerful versions of it, very few people are going to take the (I assume) intended path of upgrading each item incrementally especially considering the sheer cost in food when obtaining the coins needed to upgrade.
Great post.

I think the thing for me is that I quite like grinding for stuff. I don't mind too much if it's repetitive. But the food requirements make it to the point that you can't actually ever focus on anything else. I got to a point where I found a fairly effective way to cook so that I could do other things. Then found the other things require a huge amount of grinding for items (the love/trust requirements are insane).

That's when I had the next realisation: I have no idea what's going on with the game. Even the conversations with half a dozen different options are confusing and overly convoluted. I don't know if they're alternative options for achieving the same thing, just for flavour, or if they're affecting the progress, or if they're just to annoy me by having premium options locked out. But I didn't know where I was with any of the characters. I couldn't remember what had been said. I just knew that progress was sparse. Why is Eva Elfie there? What can I do with her? I don't know.

Any sense of achievement gets lost because the payout is so low and confusing. Any enjoyment is gone because it's so few and far between that you lose place. I genuinely don't know if there's good content I haven't got to or if there's just the promise of it to keep me grinding.

The only way I could judge this game at all at this point is if they cut the grind down massively.
 
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Bro said everything that should have been said a long time ago.
I hope the dev actually listens for once
yeah I hope the devs listen too, this game has a lot of potential and it wouldn't take much more than a balance rework to begin to let that potential out, hell, they could fix a lot with a single easy patch right now that allows use of twinehacker, they don't even need to stop selling cheats, almost every single twine realporn game already does that, the difference is that they also don't block the usage of third party cheats, and most of them also don't have such an incredible grind that the game is unplayable without the cheats.

Great post.

I think the thing for me is that I quite like grinding for stuff. I don't mind too much if it's repetitive. But the food requirements make it to the point that you can't actually ever focus on anything else. I got to a point where I found a fairly effective way to cook so that I could do other things. Then found the other things require a huge amount of grinding for items (the love/trust requirements are insane).

That's when I had the next realisation: I have no idea what's going on with the game. Even the conversations with half a dozen different options are confusing and overly convoluted. I don't know if they're alternative options for achieving the same thing, just for flavour, or if they're affecting the progress, or if they're just to annoy me by having premium options locked out. But I didn't know where I was with any of the characters. I couldn't remember what had been said. I just knew that progress was sparse. Why is Eva Elfie there? What can I do with her? I don't know.

Any sense of achievement gets lost because the payout is so low and confusing. Any enjoyment is gone because it's so few and far between that you lose place. I genuinely don't know if there's good content I haven't got to or if there's just the promise of it to keep me grinding.

The only way I could judge this game at all at this point is if they cut the grind down massively.
I really like grinding in games. The feeling of spending a large amount of time fighting a specific enemy to get one really rare weapon that can carry me through a few boss fights appeals to my love of RPG's and character growth, not only making it feel like I actually worked for this massive increase in power, but also giving me an item that I can realistically use through multiple bosses, areas, arcs, whatever. This game doesn't do that sadly, as far as I can tell weapon or armor drops only give you the basic item that you can get every time with scavenging the area, and the item only works in that area and is incredibly outclassed by the next enemy type up, sure I could upgrade the item, but I need multiple days worth of food to upgrade it once, in addition to needing to periodically (every other day) go and farm food because the passive food consumption is so high. The reason I can shut off my brain for a long time and grind for one specific item is because I only need to focus on one task, In this game, I have to keep in mind: My character's tiredness, which increases by one every action, The character's virus level, which increases from some actions, fighting, and moving through each area in a zone, the food level of the settlement, the watering stage of the plants I am growing, and more.

You know what would help though? We have women who are just sitting around. Prisoners rotting in their cell consuming our food, literally thousands and tens of thousands of slaves, just sitting there doing nothing because we don't have the food to use them up in raids. Let us assign slaves and prisoners to growing plants in the greenhouse, maybe the women in the house could be assigned to tasks, perhaps assigning a woman to cook makes it so she automatically takes the food we have in our inventory, and automatically cooks the best recipe she can at the moment, maybe the higher affection we have with her the food she cooks gets a percentage increase in the food it provides? Its just little quality of life things that can add up.

And yeah I don't know the story of the game either admittedly, I read through everything in every porn game I play, but this one, I just can't for some reason. I never am able to build points with the main girls because I need to constantly be spending all my affection items for minimal gains with the side girls so I can go deeper in the zones to get better food to deal with the increased food usage of going deeper in the zone earlier, inevitably increasing my food usage even higher and causing the cycle to repeat, and thus can't view the main story, I end up skipping through the side girl's stories because all they really do is unlock tertiary girls (slaves) for you to do nothing with except let them eat all your food without any recompense.
 
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yeah I hope the devs listen too, this game has a lot of potential and it wouldn't take much more than a balance rework to begin to let that potential out, hell, they could fix a lot with a single easy patch right now that allows use of twinehacker, they don't even need to stop selling cheats, almost every single twine realporn game already does that, the difference is that they also don't block the usage of third party cheats, and most of them also don't have such an incredible grind that the game is unplayable without the cheats.


I really like grinding in games. The feeling of spending a large amount of time fighting a specific enemy to get one really rare weapon that can carry me through a few boss fights appeals to my love of RPG's and character growth, not only making it feel like I actually worked for this massive increase in power, but also giving me an item that I can realistically use through multiple bosses, areas, arcs, whatever. This game doesn't do that sadly, as far as I can tell weapon or armor drops only give you the basic item that you can get every time with scavenging the area, and the item only works in that area and is incredibly outclassed by the next enemy type up, sure I could upgrade the item, but I need multiple days worth of food to upgrade it once, in addition to needing to periodically (every other day) go and farm food because the passive food consumption is so high. The reason I can shut off my brain for a long time and grind for one specific item is because I only need to focus on one task, In this game, I have to keep in mind: My character's tiredness, which increases by one every action, The character's virus level, which increases from some actions, fighting, and moving through each area in a zone, the food level of the settlement, the watering stage of the plants I am growing, and more.

You know what would help though? We have women who are just sitting around. Prisoners rotting in their cell consuming our food, literally thousands and tens of thousands of slaves, just sitting there doing nothing because we don't have the food to use them up in raids. Let us assign slaves and prisoners to growing plants in the greenhouse, maybe the women in the house could be assigned to tasks, perhaps assigning a woman to cook makes it so she automatically takes the food we have in our inventory, and automatically cooks the best recipe she can at the moment, maybe the higher affection we have with her the food she cooks gets a percentage increase in the food it provides? Its just little quality of life things that can add up.

And yeah I don't know the story of the game either admittedly, I read through everything in every porn game I play, but this one, I just can't for some reason. I never am able to build points with the main girls because I need to constantly be spending all my affection items for minimal gains with the side girls so I can go deeper in the zones to get better food to deal with the increased food usage of going deeper in the zone earlier, inevitably increasing my food usage even higher and causing the cycle to repeat, and thus can't view the main story, I end up skipping through the side girl's stories because all they really do is unlock tertiary girls (slaves) for you to do nothing with except let them eat all your food without any recompense.
Yeah, food takes priority over everything. You can get to a point where you can cook enough to do other things, but it's a slog and even then it doesn't last that long before you're back to food. But then having to balance it with everything else...ugh. Even if they just halved all the requirements the game would still be grindy but a lot closer to playable. Offering ways to automate management through slaves and other characters is also a good suggestion.

The big thing for me is that the game feels very over-engineered to make it not manageable. I'm similar to you in that I'll happily play a game that takes my mind off things by mindlessly grinding through tasks, but it has to feel that either there's a decent reward for it. I'm crazy enough that I invested a fair chunk of time before forming an opinion, but the grind never lessened and the feeling of reward never came.
 
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This game is crazy, and I don't mean that in a great way. It has all the systems I like, love/lust routes, gathering and crafting, growing food, combat, physical character growth, you get the idea. Sounds like it would be a fun game for me to play but it isn't. All of those mechanics are implemented in such a horrifically grindy way, and are so entwined with each other, that this game gets unplayable very very quickly. To live, you need food, alright cool, go to the forest and play a chance based minigame to hunt, if you don't like the sound of that you can play a chance based minigame with a different skin to gather plants, and if you don't like that you can play a chance based minigame with some skill mixed in to fish. If you grind enough materials you can build a farm, where you can grow a grand total of 3 plants, that you must babysit to produce any worthwhile food.

Very soon after starting you need to start going deeper into the different zones, to do so you need to fight girls or grind love/lust on other girls depending on what spot you are in, How do you grind love/lust? Well fighting girls for a chance of getting an item that slightly increases your chosen stat of course. How do you get stronger? Grinding for items, grinding for materials to upgrade those items, or fighting girls. How do you get the materials to upgrade items? Yep! Random chance drops from fighting girls, using slaves to raid zones, and clicking over and over again to grind. Every time you complete one of the events to unlock a deeper part of a zone, you have to take a girl as a prisoner. That's fine. Until you need to build a prison so you can grind materials to get stronger so you can beat harder girls to get deeper in zones, because every prisoner you have also consumes food the second the prison is built.

Okay that's fine, don't build the prison until you need to (around 4 prisoners) and just grind food for a while until you can easily sail past the point where those prisoners will eat more food than you can produce right? Wrong. Earlygame food production levels are so laughably low that you might be able to get enough to stay fed for 10 days without going insane grinding, to get access to better foods you need to cook them or go deeper in the zones to find them, cooking in the early game gives such little increases in food that its not worth it and as stated you cannot go deeper in zones without building a prison to farm materials to upgrade your gear. Alright fine, build the prison, rush materials, get deeper in zones. Nah. You have enough slaves to do it because you have had to fight hundreds of women at this point, but you also need FOOD and a ton of it. Days worth of food just to farm a single god damned item, to spend more materials so you can upgrade one single item to its second worst variant, except you can't. Because you need to build a new room so you can train yourself to get the crafting levels you need to build the item.

Alright, all is not lost yet. Twine is easy to cheat, download twinehacker, all good. Wrong. The dev has intentionally made it so starting twinehacker pauses the game so no changes made save. Alright how do you unlock the in game cheats? Pay the dev OR play the game like 50 real life days in a row to unlock enough PREMIUM FUCKING CURRENCY to buy an UPGRADED ACCOUNT??????? Oh and you can use that premium currency to buy lootboxes too, what is in them? Who knows, it costs 100 currency for the cheapest one, and you get one coin per day you log in.

Fine, just save scum fights to get the materials you need and so you can always do the best attacks in the WHEEL SPIN BASED COMBAT SYSTEM?????????????? Nope, the dev has thought of that too, somehow, the game saves the combat state, and if you try to revert to an earlier round in the fight, it just loads the same state you were on. Alright maybe exiting the game and starting again to load from a clear slate? Nope it resets the fight.

Alright, alright, what about the porn. What porn? lmao. You will be spending all of your relationship upgrade items on the side characters so you can progress the zones, you won't be able to unlock scenes with the main girls, and the scenes with the side girls are you two going on an adventure which culminates in you fucking a different girl and taking her prisoner, increasing your food needs. Realistically you will find porn in this game in two ways. Taking a girl prisoner, which will very much ruin your "run" or unlocking non canon (Or at least non main story) events by having an upgraded account via playing the game many, many, real life days in a row/being a patron. I do not believe there are even any main storyline penetration scenes with any of the main or even side girls. 2 years in.

This game is hell. Someone in purgatory with this game as their only entertainment would give it up a few hours in and walk into the endless void to never look back. This game was one I played the first build released on this website, that I gave countless chances because I loved the idea of it so much, only to be disappointed and betrayed at every turn, at every update, and I just cannot stand it any more. Normally, I disagree with the review scores given to most games on this site. This is the only one I can 100% say is accurately portraying my exact thoughts about the state of the game. Is there potential in this game? Yes, there is a ton of it. Do I expect it to have an epic No Man's Sky or Cyberpunk 2077 style comeback where the issues are fixed and everyone loves it finally? No, I don't. For two years this game has been reworked, refreshed, mechanics rebalanced and replaced, and the sad part is that sometimes the dev got it right, just to change it again in the next few updates.

My advice for the dev? Take a step back. Read what people are saying, without getting defensive as you are known to do. Take criticism for what it is: People who see the potential this game has, trying to help you take advantage of it. Take a break and maybe go and enjoy a hobby for a few months, come back with an idea of how you can try to repair both the game's balance, and the community's trust in the game. I'd recommend a rebalance to get rid of grind, and maybe cut down on the amount of items perhaps a base item and one upgraded version, there's no reason why each item needs to have 3-4 increasingly powerful versions of it, very few people are going to take the (I assume) intended path of upgrading each item incrementally especially considering the sheer cost in food when obtaining the coins needed to upgrade.
They created over 40 fake accounts to gve themselves 5 stars. Do you really think they'll heed any advice?
 
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Bro said everything that should have been said a long time ago.
I hope the dev actually listens for once
Mate, they can't make a release and not fuck the most basic shit up.
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It takes literally 2 minutes to verify that your new "scenes" are working. It's more than obvious that these guys are absurdly incompetent, don't give a shit about their product now that revenue is going down due to their bad practices or both.
 
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yeah I hope the devs listen too, this game has a lot of potential and it wouldn't take much more than a balance rework to begin to let that potential out, hell, they could fix a lot with a single easy patch right now that allows use of twinehacker, they don't even need to stop selling cheats, almost every single twine realporn game already does that, the difference is that they also don't block the usage of third party cheats, and most of them also don't have such an incredible grind that the game is unplayable without the cheats.


I really like grinding in games. The feeling of spending a large amount of time fighting a specific enemy to get one really rare weapon that can carry me through a few boss fights appeals to my love of RPG's and character growth, not only making it feel like I actually worked for this massive increase in power, but also giving me an item that I can realistically use through multiple bosses, areas, arcs, whatever. This game doesn't do that sadly, as far as I can tell weapon or armor drops only give you the basic item that you can get every time with scavenging the area, and the item only works in that area and is incredibly outclassed by the next enemy type up, sure I could upgrade the item, but I need multiple days worth of food to upgrade it once, in addition to needing to periodically (every other day) go and farm food because the passive food consumption is so high. The reason I can shut off my brain for a long time and grind for one specific item is because I only need to focus on one task, In this game, I have to keep in mind: My character's tiredness, which increases by one every action, The character's virus level, which increases from some actions, fighting, and moving through each area in a zone, the food level of the settlement, the watering stage of the plants I am growing, and more.

You know what would help though? We have women who are just sitting around. Prisoners rotting in their cell consuming our food, literally thousands and tens of thousands of slaves, just sitting there doing nothing because we don't have the food to use them up in raids. Let us assign slaves and prisoners to growing plants in the greenhouse, maybe the women in the house could be assigned to tasks, perhaps assigning a woman to cook makes it so she automatically takes the food we have in our inventory, and automatically cooks the best recipe she can at the moment, maybe the higher affection we have with her the food she cooks gets a percentage increase in the food it provides? Its just little quality of life things that can add up.

And yeah I don't know the story of the game either admittedly, I read through everything in every porn game I play, but this one, I just can't for some reason. I never am able to build points with the main girls because I need to constantly be spending all my affection items for minimal gains with the side girls so I can go deeper in the zones to get better food to deal with the increased food usage of going deeper in the zone earlier, inevitably increasing my food usage even higher and causing the cycle to repeat, and thus can't view the main story, I end up skipping through the side girl's stories because all they really do is unlock tertiary girls (slaves) for you to do nothing with except let them eat all your food without any recompense.
" this game has a lot of potential and it wouldn't take much more than a balance rework to begin to let that potential out, "

That's assuming they have the technical capabilities to do such a thing. Which I truly doubt.
 

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This game is crazy, and I don't mean that in a great way. It has all the systems I like, love/lust routes, gathering and crafting, growing food, combat, physical character growth, you get the idea. Sounds like it would be a fun game for me to play but it isn't. All of those mechanics are implemented in such a horrifically grindy way, and are so entwined with each other, that this game gets unplayable very very quickly. To live, you need food, alright cool, go to the forest and play a chance based minigame to hunt, if you don't like the sound of that you can play a chance based minigame with a different skin to gather plants, and if you don't like that you can play a chance based minigame with some skill mixed in to fish. If you grind enough materials you can build a farm, where you can grow a grand total of 3 plants, that you must babysit to produce any worthwhile food.

Very soon after starting you need to start going deeper into the different zones, to do so you need to fight girls or grind love/lust on other girls depending on what spot you are in, How do you grind love/lust? Well fighting girls for a chance of getting an item that slightly increases your chosen stat of course. How do you get stronger? Grinding for items, grinding for materials to upgrade those items, or fighting girls. How do you get the materials to upgrade items? Yep! Random chance drops from fighting girls, using slaves to raid zones, and clicking over and over again to grind. Every time you complete one of the events to unlock a deeper part of a zone, you have to take a girl as a prisoner. That's fine. Until you need to build a prison so you can grind materials to get stronger so you can beat harder girls to get deeper in zones, because every prisoner you have also consumes food the second the prison is built.

Okay that's fine, don't build the prison until you need to (around 4 prisoners) and just grind food for a while until you can easily sail past the point where those prisoners will eat more food than you can produce right? Wrong. Earlygame food production levels are so laughably low that you might be able to get enough to stay fed for 10 days without going insane grinding, to get access to better foods you need to cook them or go deeper in the zones to find them, cooking in the early game gives such little increases in food that its not worth it and as stated you cannot go deeper in zones without building a prison to farm materials to upgrade your gear. Alright fine, build the prison, rush materials, get deeper in zones. Nah. You have enough slaves to do it because you have had to fight hundreds of women at this point, but you also need FOOD and a ton of it. Days worth of food just to farm a single god damned item, to spend more materials so you can upgrade one single item to its second worst variant, except you can't. Because you need to build a new room so you can train yourself to get the crafting levels you need to build the item.

Alright, all is not lost yet. Twine is easy to cheat, download twinehacker, all good. Wrong. The dev has intentionally made it so starting twinehacker pauses the game so no changes made save. Alright how do you unlock the in game cheats? Pay the dev OR play the game like 50 real life days in a row to unlock enough PREMIUM FUCKING CURRENCY to buy an UPGRADED ACCOUNT??????? Oh and you can use that premium currency to buy lootboxes too, what is in them? Who knows, it costs 100 currency for the cheapest one, and you get one coin per day you log in.

Fine, just save scum fights to get the materials you need and so you can always do the best attacks in the WHEEL SPIN BASED COMBAT SYSTEM?????????????? Nope, the dev has thought of that too, somehow, the game saves the combat state, and if you try to revert to an earlier round in the fight, it just loads the same state you were on. Alright maybe exiting the game and starting again to load from a clear slate? Nope it resets the fight.

Alright, alright, what about the porn. What porn? lmao. You will be spending all of your relationship upgrade items on the side characters so you can progress the zones, you won't be able to unlock scenes with the main girls, and the scenes with the side girls are you two going on an adventure which culminates in you fucking a different girl and taking her prisoner, increasing your food needs. Realistically you will find porn in this game in two ways. Taking a girl prisoner, which will very much ruin your "run" or unlocking non canon (Or at least non main story) events by having an upgraded account via playing the game many, many, real life days in a row/being a patron. I do not believe there are even any main storyline penetration scenes with any of the main or even side girls. 2 years in.

This game is hell. Someone in purgatory with this game as their only entertainment would give it up a few hours in and walk into the endless void to never look back. This game was one I played the first build released on this website, that I gave countless chances because I loved the idea of it so much, only to be disappointed and betrayed at every turn, at every update, and I just cannot stand it any more. Normally, I disagree with the review scores given to most games on this site. This is the only one I can 100% say is accurately portraying my exact thoughts about the state of the game. Is there potential in this game? Yes, there is a ton of it. Do I expect it to have an epic No Man's Sky or Cyberpunk 2077 style comeback where the issues are fixed and everyone loves it finally? No, I don't. For two years this game has been reworked, refreshed, mechanics rebalanced and replaced, and the sad part is that sometimes the dev got it right, just to change it again in the next few updates.

My advice for the dev? Take a step back. Read what people are saying, without getting defensive as you are known to do. Take criticism for what it is: People who see the potential this game has, trying to help you take advantage of it. Take a break and maybe go and enjoy a hobby for a few months, come back with an idea of how you can try to repair both the game's balance, and the community's trust in the game. I'd recommend a rebalance to get rid of grind, and maybe cut down on the amount of items perhaps a base item and one upgraded version, there's no reason why each item needs to have 3-4 increasingly powerful versions of it, very few people are going to take the (I assume) intended path of upgrading each item incrementally especially considering the sheer cost in food when obtaining the coins needed to upgrade.

Thank you for the deep review. And for staying kinda positive.


You convinced us, in the next update, we will do a balancing of the grind on the easier/faster side.

Also, we are now entering the blowjob stage of the main storyline on the 0.5. What's next? the actual vaginal sex on the 0.6.


We hope to continue seeing you in the wastelands!
 

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Wait a minute, even with the bonus scenes there's no actual way for us to have sex with the main cast, right? And I'm not counting the rape or slavery routes because that ain't sex.
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