HTML The Fapocalypse [v0.5.6] [FAP Online Creation]

[VKKV]

Not knowing big words and assuming that your opposition could only know these things through AI is a pretty terrible point.

See after reading their code and realizing it was Chat GPT? I wrote a whole statement... Decided no. I"ll let the robot do the speaking, and then I told it to dumb it down.... twice.
I wanted it to be perfect and punctual, but understandable to someone who didn't speak English as a first language.
The "level" of language there? Is to that of an 8th grader in middle school.

Unless every bit of content needs entire code refactoring I fail to see how this could take this long. At this point should you not have the game set up so that adding the bits of story content is just repeating what you've done already, just with higher numbers? I'm wondering if I could do it just to prove a point. Even if someone isn't using chatGPT to write all the corny dialogue or do the code, this really shouldn't take this long.

I haven't tried any of the updates in a long time because I don't trust the devs. Wasn't the daily login thing accessing the Internet? I don't want these guys anywhere near my info like that.

That's the problem with using Chat GPT. It can't factor a base. It can only give you snippets to the means of an ends.
After looking at their code? There is no code base.
EVERYTHING is self contained.
If they have to make cross references? They have to address the entire format.
This is also how HaveISeenYouBefore is easy to crack it... Because the anti-piracy measures? Are self contained. So you just have to look at the container, and voila... squished.

So yes... when they add new content...It isn't a drop file code attachment, set up sequence....
It's basically an entire god damn refactor of the entire scene.


AHEM I mean... I'm not a Game Developer. I have NO idea what I'm talking about

Is this at least a calculated play where you're purposufelly acting narcissistic (god knows why), or are you actually so oblivious, unaware, and delusional, that you don't believe you come across like an elite narcissist?

Sorry didn't see you there. New page!
See that's why they stopped replying to me. They've only got three options:
1. Admit they really are that oblivious, unaware, and delusional.
2. Admit that they're ACTING that oblivious,unaware, and delusional.
3. Ignore any rebuttal and not address any point, and prove its #1. <--- We are currently here.

Either way it's a Lose/Lose scenario, because who does that? To get more fans/buyers???

 

[LewdMonkey1]

Man, I've been in the thread for the lulz for quite some time but seeing the dev talk about people "not being game developers" was too much.

All you had were honest feedbacks and bug reports. Of course some were harsh, but this is the internet and in an old fashioned way. You would not have survived on BB back in the days! Instead of going against them, you should have thanked them and took all of it into consideration for future releases.

Gloating about revenues doesn't help it. Your supporters chose to support you, the least you guys can do is deliver content with working mechanics. After all, isn't what a game is supposed to be? At the end of the day, you should view your "supporters" and commenters here as a community. Hell, I paused billing on Patreon for a month when I had my kid because I was not able to deliver one update. Would you have the same integrity?

All in all, it's nice to have a project that is doing well. But I do not think you are acting the way you should. I would have loved to have someone look at my code and tell me its flaws the way you had. And you screwed up again, and again, and again, and ....

I still wish you the best since I know what it is to be a dev, and maybe my word will have a microscopic impact (!). But you should question yourself about the way you interact with people. And if the claims about fake reviews are true, boy... It just shows you have no trust yourselves in your product.

Now, back to my seat and enjoy the show!

 

[Bonger12345]

latest save but not really, didnt fight the new enemies yet but dialogue for most characters is done.

 

[VKKV]

All you had were honest feedbacks and bug reports. Of course some were harsh, but this is the internet.

At the end of the day, you should view your "supporters" and commenters here as a community.

Imagine getting free QA and bug fixing and hating on it.
The reason why they're upset is because they're losing money on cheats if no one has to pay for their 50$ subscribestar. (that and higher is the only tier that has cheats unlocked, so they know the grind is absolutely ridiculous)
Which
1. if their data is true... I wouldn't even be concerned about. They're doing fine making 4k+ a month.
2. This is a pirating website. Pirates gonna pirate...

 

[haveiseenyoubefore]

Why do I keep doing this to myself? I truly, truly meant to set aside this, but your stupidity is so fucking addictive I just can't help it!

Since you can't wrap your head around it, I'll clear it up for you, we have around 200 subs, but the average pledge is very high (all of our highest tiers are full and we have 50 executioners tier...)

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After reading this I realized talking to you makes me lose brain cells. I knew there was something that didn't quite made sense about you putting thousands into the game out of pocket. Then you showed this:

And it all came together. Of those 50 subs is there anyone actually paying 50 bucks? It's quite amazing that you came with this system, do you eat up higher costs in fees just to brag about your numbers or does SubscribeStar just take their share from what you actually get paid for? I'll admit is less pathetic than paying them out of pocket though, which I truly believed you were doing

Even if I were to take your word for it and believe that number, 200, is true,

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to 200 subscribers now. 84 new subscribers in a year is hardly a number to brag about considering that most of those definitely came from your Patreon when it first close, is it now?


Where are the other 7K, though?

 

[haveiseenyoubefore]

Perhaps a fun bet with ihaveseenyoubefore. Because everyone could use a little more fun in their lives.

You enable the Executioner subs to be shown on your page. If it clocks in over 40, ihaveseenyoubefore must join as a $99.95 Head of Executioner.
ihaveseenyoubefore, would you take this bet?

I would if that meant those people are actually paying $50, but as it turns out you could reach that tier by being 6 months at $10 or 9 months at $5 tier, their Patreon has been open for more than a year and September last year they had 14 subscribers at lowest tier and 77 at $10. If half of those forgot to turn off their subscription (And considering there are many abandoned projects that still have supporters, it's not far fetched), you would have 45 subscribers at executioner via upgrades.

Nifty little trick they crafted there to inflate their numbers without spending too much money

Imagine getting free QA and bug fixing and hating on it.
The reason why they're upset is because they're losing money on cheats if no one has to pay for their 50$ subscribestar. (that and higher is the only tier that has cheats unlocked, so they know the grind is absolutely ridiculous)
Which
1. if their data is true... I wouldn't even be concerned about. They're doing fine making 4k+ a month.
2. This is a pirating website. Pirates gonna pirate...

I have unironically reported more bugs than all their Discord. Not even a single thanks, nor a slice of pizza, can you believe it? These frenchmen, so uncivilized!

 

[haveiseenyoubefore]

Now, back to my seat and enjoy the show!

*Insert generic 'You are not a real developer' comment here*

 

[haveiseenyoubefore]

That's the problem with using Chat GPT. It can't factor a base. It can only give you snippets to the means of an ends.
After looking at their code? There is no code base.
EVERYTHING is self contained.
If they have to make cross references? They have to address the entire format.

They tried to implement a global hash and had to roll it back (Look at their code. They took it down instead of fixing it.) a few hours after because it blocked their fight system.

 

[FAP Online Creation]

Perhaps a fun bet with ihaveseenyoubefore. Because everyone could use a little more fun in their lives.

You enable the Executioner subs to be shown on your page. If it clocks in over 40, ihaveseenyoubefore must join as a $99.95 Head of Executioner.
ihaveseenyoubefore, would you take this bet?

We would absolutely take this bet.

But he won't since a part of him knows it's all the truth.

 

[VKKV]

After reading this I realized talking to you makes me lose brain cells. I knew there was something that didn't quite made sense about you putting thousands into the game out of pocket. Then you showed this:

And it all came together. Of those 50 subs is there anyone actually paying 50 bucks? It's quite amazing that you came with this system, do you eat up higher costs in fees just to brag about your numbers or does SubscribeStar just take their share from what you actually get paid for? I'll admit is less pathetic than paying them out of pocket though, which I truly believed you were doing

Remember when I told you I did some digging and did some math on their subscribestar?... yeah.

I have unironically reported more bugs than all their Discord. Not even a single thanks, nor a slice of pizza, can you believe it? These frenchmen, so uncivilized!

Well the discord is so dead I don't even think my squad could revive it. Besides the NSFW and bug channel... nothing happens.
and I KNOW. Zero thanks. So rude.

They tried to implement a global hash and had to roll it back (Look at their code. They took it down instead of fixing it.) a few hours after because it blocked their fight system.

That is Precisely one of the the things i was pointing out not having a fucking base, and when they DID try to make it global? They fucked it up so massively they had to take it out.

Like. This is seriously high school difficulty of coding. Which to be fair... Even Chat GPT messes up sometimes.

 

[FAP Online Creation]

I would if that meant those people are actually paying $50, but as it turns out you could reach that tier by being 6 months at $10 or 9 months at $5 tier, their Patreon has been open for more than a year and September last year they had 14 subscribers at lowest tier and 77 at $10. If half of those forgot to turn off their subscription (And considering there are many abandoned projects that still have supporters, it's not far fetched), you would have 45 subscribers at executioner via upgrades.
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Nifty little trick they crafted there to inflate their numbers without spending too much money



I have unironically reported more bugs than all their Discord. Not even a single thanks, nor a slice of pizza, can you believe it? These frenchmen, so uncivilized!

Hush hush don't cry dear, we can see you getting desesperate with the coping and we'll help you figure this big mystery out:



Oh and... another info you can chose to believe or not, in all the time we had the "3 consecutives months" incentive, only 1 person benefited from it.

Also, we are not bragging about the subscribers upgrade, we are being transparent about making 3+K per month with one person working 2-3 hours of work per week. So yeah, in a way, you are the person putting to most effort/time into this

 

[FAP Online Creation]

Devs, this is a genuine question: why this route?


Yes, you've mentioned you're making a lot of money. I won't discuss how valid or invalid that might be. But why act like this? Do you not believe there would be advantages (even monetarily) to act more maturely?


Do you think someone in their right mind reads this thread and wants to support you, genuinely?

Is this at least a calculated play where you're purposufelly acting narcissistic (god knows why), or are you actually so oblivious, unaware, and delusional, that you don't believe you come across like an elite narcissist?

Good question!

there are a couple of answers to it:
1- The fun! Messing with these online trolls warriors is a garanteed good laugh, even more when you have the high hand of the stick. Remember, this is a side project for us, we can afford to have a little fun.
2- Most (almost all) of the people paying us since the beginning have not been "supporters", they pay for what they get, the cheats and the extra scenes. Some have been supporter and we had fun with them on the discord and they have provided some positive insight many time, we like these fellas, but they will not end up here crying about a game they did not make.
3- We perfectly do know what we come across in here.

The show must go on and the game will continue with its development to the end of the content, wether the fragiles like it or not.

 

[VKKV]

Good question!

there are a couple of answers to it:
1- The fun! Messing with these online trolls warriors is a garanteed good laugh, even more when you have the high hand of the stick. Remember, this is a side project for us, we can afford to have a little fun.
2- Most (almost all) of the people paying us since the beginning have not been "supporters", they pay for what they get, the cheats and the extra scenes. Some have been supporter and we had fun with them on the discord and they have provided some positive insight many time, we like these fellas, but they will not end up here crying about a game they did not make.
3- We perfectly do know what we come across in here.

The show must go on and the game will continue with its development to the end of the content, wether the fragiles like it or not.

Wow they're just owning it completely.

You are not community members to them, You are customers. They don't care about you, what you think. Just that you pay them.
They know they come across as assholes. They don't care. They are here to make money. Not build a community and gain supporters.

Pack it up boys. Looks like I might need to pull some strings and get some things done.

 

[FAP Online Creation]

Wow they're just owning it completely.

You are not community members to them, You are customers. They don't care about you, what you think. Just that you pay them.
They know they come across as assholes. They don't care. They are here to make money. Not build a community and gain supporters.

Pack it up boys. Looks like I might need to pull some strings and get some things done.

Yes customers... you guys are not tho.


And you know what customers get in life? An exchange of service.

We provide them what they pay for, no more, no less.

Their contribution keep this project alive and they will end up having the full product because of it.

And we will deliver the content until the end.


Oh and let's be honest , you have no string to pull and you did not math whatsoever, easy to say "that's what I mean" after dear old HaveISeenYouBefore does an analysis. I am starting to believe that you are a bot.

 

[VKKV]

Bunch of Bullshit

We'll see. On the phone now

 

[FAP Online Creation]

Man, I've been in the thread for the lulz for quite some time but seeing the dev talk about people "not being game developers" was too much.

All you had were honest feedbacks and bug reports. Of course some were harsh, but this is the internet and in an old fashioned way. You would not have survived on BB back in the days! Instead of going against them, you should have thanked them and took all of it into consideration for future releases.

Gloating about revenues doesn't help it. Your supporters chose to support you, the least you guys can do is deliver content with working mechanics. After all, isn't what a game is supposed to be? At the end of the day, you should view your "supporters" and commenters here as a community. Hell, I paused billing on Patreon for a month when I had my kid because I was not able to deliver one update. Would you have the same integrity?

All in all, it's nice to have a project that is doing well. But I do not think you are acting the way you should. I would have loved to have someone look at my code and tell me its flaws the way you had. And you screwed up again, and again, and again, and ....

I still wish you the best since I know what it is to be a dev, and maybe my word will have a microscopic impact (!). But you should question yourself about the way you interact with people. And if the claims about fake reviews are true, boy... It just shows you have no trust yourselves in your product.

Now, back to my seat and enjoy the show!

Hey! Refreshing to have an actual game dev in here.


1- What we also had is people getting angry about the fact that we had cheat, protection and extra scenes as a way to finance our product and doing everything they can to bring it (us) down. Without it the project would not have continued.

2- We are a very transparent source for possible dev to look at and understand a different strategy than "pure support".

3- We are updating every 2 weeks with no pause since the beginning and we provide multiple bugfix mini-update in between each weeks too. So we provide a working product. For instance we are at the "d" version of the 0.4.7 right now (4th mini updates of this update).

4- We've had some people positively looking at our code and giving us some insight and flagging some flaws, but never in here, always on discord, and we acted on it.

 

[FAP Online Creation]

We'll see. On the phone now

 

[VKKV]

Welp. The pieces have been moved. The game plays its self from here.

 

[haveiseenyoubefore]

This is a truly good example of why you should stay in school, guys. At least until you finish elementary and learn to multiply.

Hush hush don't cry dear, we can see you getting desesperate with the coping and we'll help you figure this big mystery out:

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Oh and... another info you can chose to believe or not, in all the time we had the "3 consecutives months" incentive, only 1 person benefited from it.

Also, we are not bragging about the subscribers upgrade, we are being transparent about making 3+K per month with one person working 2-3 hours of work per week. So yeah, in a way, you are the person putting to most effort/time into this

So, if we are to believe you, you have 230 subscribers and are currently sitting at 77,4% of a 4K goal, as can be seen here:

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Since you suck at basic math so much I'll tell you that, according to your own statements and data, you are making 3096 bucks. That much would be true. Unfortunately, you choose to not lie about the one thing you shouldn't.
This would mean that the average pledge is sitting at 13,46 dollars per member(Very high average, huh?). This is quite funny, since according to what you claimed, your total revenue at the moment should come from the Executioners, Head of Executioners and MAD tiers alone, right?
(I'll do the math for you, don't worry. 50*49,50 + 99,50 * 4 + 199,50 equals 3072 dollars. This means it doesn't add up. I'm telling you this because I know you struggle with reading)

All that effort to hide your statistics(for god knows whatever reason) and you just blew it because your math level is not even on elementary school.

Please, do add up those numbers, and then try to tell us how much it comes up and why you are making 3+K instead of the 5160 dollars that comes out from doing the math. It's going to be hilarious(My bet right now is that you'll claim that 5160 is "technically" 3+K dollars ).

But yeah, only one person got an upgrade, right?

I'm not talking from experience my dear friend, but to be a competent liar you ought to be extremely smart or have a good memory. Preferably both. You are neither. I have to say,

We would absolutely take this bet.

But he won't since a part of him knows it's all the truth.

I'll make you a one up. I have 70K sitting on my bank account at the moment for liquidity.

Record yourself accessing your SubscribeStar paycheck. If what you say is true and you actually have at least 40 subscribers paying you 50 bucks, which we know you don't, I'll match your revenue for the last year.

Also, we are not bragging about the subscribers upgrade, we are being transparent about making 3+K per month with one person working 2-3 hours of work per week. So yeah, in a way, you are the person putting to most effort/time into this

So, you are admitting now that everytime you claimed you were working hard and testing and playing your game extensively you were actually lying repeatedly to your supporters, correct?
And we are supposed to believe all your new bullshit because trust me bro, right?

Take this as a lesson for the future: Never engage while having a mental breakdown. Go outside, touch some grass, relax a bit. You earned it, king

 

[haveiseenyoubefore]

1- What we also had is people getting angry about the fact that we had cheat, protection and extra scenes as a way to finance our product and doing everything they can to bring it (us) down. Without it the project would not have continued.

No, what you have is a bunch of people getting angry at the fact that you made your game into an insane grind and tried to prevent any bypass of said grind so people would be more inclined to pay for cheats to avoid it. You know, what a normal, rational, well functioning well being would call malicious practices.

I know you are not the sharpest tool in the shed, but please, don't pretend you don't understand what's going on.

Without it the project would not have continued.

Also, I thought you didn't depended on this project and that you guys were working 60+ week hours with many other projects? How comes it couldn't have continued without financial support?