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Imoen

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The other girls are way to efficient in avoiding pregnancy. I played multiple times for like 2-3 ingame years and i see at most 1 or 2 pregnancies (inculding the background girls) while sammy had multiple herself. The game talks about how 50% of the girls are pregnant but you never see them.
 

souldead341

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The other girls are way to efficient in avoiding pregnancy. I played multiple times for like 2-3 ingame years and i see at most 1 or 2 pregnancies (inculding the background girls) while sammy had multiple herself. The game talks about how 50% of the girls are pregnant but you never see them.
Well, I'd assume most of the other named girls were simply not slutting it up constantly, or are just better at avoiding creampies. A lot of the random schoolgirls you overhear are or might be pregnant.
 

Penitensary

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The other girls are way to efficient in avoiding pregnancy. I played multiple times for like 2-3 ingame years and i see at most 1 or 2 pregnancies (inculding the background girls) while sammy had multiple herself. The game talks about how 50% of the girls are pregnant but you never see them.
Is this reflected in their stats (People tab in the diary)?

I mean, sure, Sammy would get the most encounters due to "Main Character Syndrome", and to be fair if the NPCs were getting the same amount of exposure the setting would be closer to a war zone, but the impression i had was that their numbers were keeping pace.
 

Arcachnar

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BG?

Perhaps:

Sam_Tail *keeps on trying to move Sam to a new different area*

Message on screen: "you must gather your party before venturing forth"
 
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Penitensary

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Or Sam is revamping the whole game to logically add bear sex.
Would actually be pretty easy if we get the ability to explore outside of the city to scavenge materials and resources the city might need, at the cost of a much higher chance of random encounters (mitigated by Smarts) where losing to raiders gets you in a similar situation as the brothel from Haven's Slave Ending and you need a certain amount of Fitness to successfully run away from wolves, wild dogs and, indeed, bears.

Would make a point out of why people are supposed to stay inside the city, but it can lead to a bit of a tone shift.
 

Sam_Tail

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What do you think the odds are Sam_Tail is being distracted by BG3?
I wish I had time to play. Though once I do have some time, Satisfactory is what's on my list

Would actually be pretty easy if we get the ability to explore outside of the city to scavenge materials and resources the city might need, at the cost of a much higher chance of random encounters (mitigated by Smarts) where losing to raiders gets you in a similar situation as the brothel from Haven's Slave Ending and you need a certain amount of Fitness to successfully run away from wolves, wild dogs and, indeed, bears.

Would make a point out of why people are supposed to stay inside the city, but it can lead to a bit of a tone shift.
The early versions of the fixer when it was non porn focused heavily on going outside the walls and scavving supplies while fending off the crazed people who went tribal. Trying to reclaim land and make it usable. But that was when the protag was a hero type character. Sammy would get her ass beaten after 10 steps.
 

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I wish I had time to play. Though once I do have some time, Satisfactory is what's on my list



The early versions of the fixer when it was non porn focused heavily on going outside the walls and scavving supplies while fending off the crazed people who went tribal. Trying to reclaim land and make it usable. But that was when the protag was a hero type character. Sammy would get her ass beaten after 10 steps.
Satisfactory is great I have like 600 hours in it. currently waiting for update 8.
Sammy could try and become the tribal queen.
 

Penitensary

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The early versions of the fixer when it was non porn focused heavily on going outside the walls and scavving supplies while fending off the crazed people who went tribal. Trying to reclaim land and make it usable. But that was when the protag was a hero type character. Sammy would get her ass beaten after 10 steps.
I understand why, but to be fair we have the option of training Sammy into being built like an absolute brick. After 50 Fitness nothing in the city can touch you and there's still 'Noticeable abs' ahead at 60+. Point is, if you can build Sammy into someone with a hero-grade physique, why wouldn't it be possible?

I mean, sure, it's a porn game so there's bound to be people sending her into the wilderness at 20 Fitness wearing nothing but a glorified towel, but from their point of view there's going to be extra scenes as well, so if it fits the setting...
 
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I understand why, but to be fair we have the option of training Sammy into being built like an absolute brick. After 50 Fitness nothing in the city can touch you and there's still 'Noticeable abs' ahead at 60+. Point is, if you can build Sammy into someone with a hero-grade physique, why wouldn't it be possible?

I mean, sure, it's a porn game so there's bound to be people sending her into the wilderness at 20 Fitness wearing nothing but a glorified towel, but from their point of view there's going to be extra scenes as well, so if it fits the setting...
Ah, yes, the eternal problem of writing quests for a game with character customisation.
Quest: sort through the warehouse for any sacks of grain that haven't gone mouldy or been gnawed by rats yet, grind them to flour, fetch water from the stream above the fall, make the plainest bread on Earth and hand an utterly inadequate little bit of it to each of the refugees, townsfolk and soldiers.
Sure, I could do that or, being an honoured member of the cook's guild and seeing there's a vault-keeper right there, I could just grab my ingredients and hand out a few hundred Feasts of Anorien, pork- and fruit-stuffed Waybread, Ithilharn loaves, Seven-Star stews, ...
 

Penitensary

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Ah, yes, the eternal problem of writing quests for a game with character customisation.
Quest: sort through the warehouse for any sacks of grain that haven't gone mouldy or been gnawed by rats yet, grind them to flour, fetch water from the stream above the fall, make the plainest bread on Earth and hand an utterly inadequate little bit of it to each of the refugees, townsfolk and soldiers.
Sure, I could do that or, being an honoured member of the cook's guild and seeing there's a vault-keeper right there, I could just grab my ingredients and hand out a few hundred Feasts of Anorien, pork- and fruit-stuffed Waybread, Ithilharn loaves, Seven-Star stews, ...
Well yeah. It's a sandbox. The main concern would be that the setting remains consistent and there are plenty of optional things to do within that consistency. And if you worked your way up to being a top tier cook by finishing the Hell's Kitchen questline, then why wouldn't you be able to cook top-tier meals out of your own pocket instead of mucking around like an amateur?

Could Sammy explore? Sure, if you're willing to risk the high encounter rate with harder encounters than in the city to scavenge for rare and valuable items (alarm clock, hair dye, clothes?), the Scavenging system is in the game. Could you make her a model student? Sure, just keep going to school, there's both Smarts (classes) and Fitness (Dance Girls) as part of the curriculum. Could you have her sell her body? Gotcha covered with the Bar job, and likely the upcoming Motel and Slum area too. Could you make her the mayor? Unlikely, because then she would be too important to keep being the Fixer.

You don't need a separate CG adjusted for time of day and whoever else may or may not be present if you choose a peanutbutter sandwich over jam on toast when grabbing a snack in the kitchen, but as long as there's plenty of different stuff to do....
 

Panonon

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Ah, yes, the eternal problem of writing quests for a game with character customisation.
Quest: sort through the warehouse for any sacks of grain that haven't gone mouldy or been gnawed by rats yet, grind them to flour, fetch water from the stream above the fall, make the plainest bread on Earth and hand an utterly inadequate little bit of it to each of the refugees, townsfolk and soldiers.
Sure, I could do that or, being an honoured member of the cook's guild and seeing there's a vault-keeper right there, I could just grab my ingredients and hand out a few hundred Feasts of Anorien, pork- and fruit-stuffed Waybread, Ithilharn loaves, Seven-Star stews, ...
There's so much more we could do if we had a team of developers rather than just solo devs. :D
 

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Open the cheats menu and press toggle debug. It will show what version your save was started and what the current version of the game is. 3.1.50 is the latest.
So i was reading this and decided to check what game version my own save was from. I tend to use a 'starting save' where i'm a few days in and did all the setup i usually want to do at the start of a game, and when i gear up for a new playthrough i just load that game and carry on from there instead.

Turned out it was from 0.3.00.01. Guess i should start a new save. :D

Curious as to what version your saves are all form now.
 

souldead341

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So i was reading this and decided to check what game version my own save was from. I tend to use a 'starting save' where i'm a few days in and did all the setup i usually want to do at the start of a game, and when i gear up for a new playthrough i just load that game and carry on from there instead.

Turned out it was from 0.3.00.01. Guess i should start a new save. :D

Curious as to what version your saves are all form now.
Yeah, depending on the game it can be fine, but can often lead to bugs depending on the developer and game engine.
 

Chiakipus

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Ren'Py doesn't make it particularly easy to have backwards compatible saves, I can't blame devs for not trying, especially for pre-1.0 games where there's content being added everywhere.
 

Penitensary

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Yeah, depending on the game it can be fine, but can often lead to bugs depending on the developer and game engine.
Ren'Py doesn't make it particularly easy to have backwards compatible saves, I can't blame devs for not trying, especially for pre-1.0 games where there's content being added everywhere.
I'll be honest, i had no idea it was even a thing which (older) version a save was made in right at the beginning, figured the new triggers would kick in eventually sooner or later as i'd begin doing stuff.
 
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