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Not yet, because...

Not everything intended to be in the 0.3.0 version is included in this one, basically. IIRC Part 2 is intended to add roommates as a major thing, although not certain of what else yet.

Yep, clothing is supposed to be obtained from the Market area now.
Okay! That makes sense. Thank you for the info!
 

ItsCoolGuy

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I'm not a huge fan of the "wandering around the market" mechanic. Maybe have it so that once you've encountered a certain clothing item you can navigate back to it later? Or at least increase the odds of actually finding something instead of wasting a bunch of time for nothing.
 
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thedude176

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i was legit shocked at how long the changelog for the 0.3.0 was and I'm glad it got such an overhaul

just one question...
where do i go now to get clothes aside from browsing the outdoor market?
 

Mommysbuttslut

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i was legit shocked at how long the changelog for the 0.3.0 was and I'm glad it got such an overhaul

just one question...
where do i go now to get clothes aside from browsing the outdoor market?
Thats the most consistent spot. There's a shop you'll occasionally run into in the market. If you've done the needle girls starting event (second floor of the school) then you can find their stall at the market on the weekends. There's also a shop there with extremely low odds of spawning that seems to have every single piece of clothing in it.
 

Wensber

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How do changes to min/max stats work?
  1. When it says "Desire max (300)", is it increasing by 300 or setting to 300?
  2. How does negative stats work? Bambi has "Desire max (-200)" so I assume that means max desire is negative to start with.
  3. Do desire thresholds work on percent or flat numbers? In other words does high max desire make it harder to be aroused or does it just unlock events?
 

fakehb

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Got a bug where I talk to dezy to get gloryhole stuff (while the alison quest is still incomplete) and get booted to the main menu (and can't return to the game). Probably hard blocking progress for both quests. On android.
 

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Got a bug where I talk to dezy to get gloryhole stuff (while the alison quest is still incomplete) and get booted to the main menu (and can't return to the game). Probably hard blocking progress for both quests. On android.
Dezi and Ali quest are not done and are very buggy, only here due to the Institute quest. For gloryhole go to the lake beach and scavenge (it's there I had the most luck finding a saw and chisel). Once you got one click on it in the inventory and the quest stage change to find the missing tool (saw or chisel) and bring them to Nate (random discussion with the boys behind the school)
 
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Kyraga

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Got a critical bug when I can't buy new barmaid clothes after they got tattered - the "buy" button is not present.
 

UnDeaD_CyBorG

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Definitely seems like there's a memory leak or something. It's fine on my PC but anytime I try and play on android I get unplayable freezing after about half a minute.
I did notice, on PC, that the game becomes really laggy after a while. Well, several hours, but still.
As for bugs:
The first Institute quest has an option to approach the target in bar uniform, which I assume you get when you start working there, but somehow, I don't have that option, nor the option to start working. I will check this again because I have a suspicion.
Also, is it intended that you need only 1 of the tools for the glory hole, then when you check it you automatically get the second one? Lacking the option to cut through the park from home to revel street slows the game down some, what with the lag.
Lastly, in about 5 hours, with admittedly only a dozen tries or so, I have yet to find any clothing except swim wear.
Well, I didn't know the option might spawn on the market, so I guess I didn't miss that. But I probably also won't keep trying, I tend to find nothing either way.
 

Black_cat77

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Tell me, in the old versions, there were more revealing clothes and there were traces of sunburn from the bikini, was it all removed?
 

Asus10x

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but why would you upgrade the apartment if all it does is raise your bills? makes no sense to me.
Apartment upgrades can give temporary bonuses for using/reduced interaction time. The developer can come up with a reward for upgrades that will fit future mechanics. I can't know what other mechanics will introduced in the future. I am not fortune teller. Maybe there will be a dating mechanic in Sammy's apartment. And not every NPC will be happy to come to visit her in an apartment that looks like an alcoholic's lair.
P.S.: i'm curious, have you already resented the fact that the choice of clothing color does not matter at all?
 
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Shtradha

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How do changes to min/max stats work?
  1. When it says "Desire max (300)", is it increasing by 300 or setting to 300?
  2. How does negative stats work? Bambi has "Desire max (-200)" so I assume that means max desire is negative to start with.
  3. Do desire thresholds work on percent or flat numbers? In other words does high max desire make it harder to be aroused or does it just unlock events?
1. Increasing it by 300
2. Same rules as #1. it modifies your existing max (Which is 100 by default) by -200. So you end up with -100 max desire, assuming no other influences (Such as perks, booze, drugs etc)
3. Desire is used for a lot of (but not all) sex check events. People in the school may ask you for a BJ for example, and if your desire is too low, your character may automatically decline it. I haven't dug into the code deep enough yet to figure out if there's other stuff past 100 desire, there may well be. 0.3.0 introduced joy after all, and the max past 100 probably has a reason for it.
 

Shtradha

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So... is this gonna get fixed? I didn't see Sam_Tail saying anything about it. The perk getting removed makes it grindy to the point that it's just unfun.
It's complicated because sam changed the ovulation system into a perk system, where babycrazy directly ties in with ovulation. This forced sam to remove the babycrazy perk during pregnancy (Otherwise you'd still ovulate during pregnancy...). The proper way to fix this is by having a babycrazy permanence perk that doesn't influence ovulation, and just "toggles" babycrazy perk back on after pregnancy.
 

Sayathing

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Game crashes when checking the vent at haven at night. I checked the location it's trying to check but there's no such folder of "haven" only action_sleep folder under general folder. EDIT: I was able to bypass the error by opening the vent at daylight and checking the vent at night, works like a charm. Hope this helps with bug fixing.


I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
ScriptError: could not find label 'haven_storage_join'.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "renpy/bootstrap.py", line 274, in bootstrap
renpy.main.main()
File "renpy/main.py", line 660, in main
run(restart)
File "renpy/main.py", line 146, in run
renpy.execution.run_context(True)
File "renpy/execution.py", line 938, in run_context
context.run()
File "scripts/locations/haven/haven_storage.rpyc", line 348, in script
File "renpy/script.py", line 927, in lookup
raise ScriptError("could not find label '%s'." % str(original))
ScriptError: could not find label 'haven_storage_join'.

Windows-10-10.0.19041 AMD64
Ren'Py 7.5.1.22070801
The Fixer 0.3.00
 
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Sam_Tail

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So much to respond to... :coffee:

Hey, I understand not wanting to portray rape as positive, and please don't take this as me telling you what you should do with your game, but I think it's a point worth discussing, so I'm gonna do so.

Having a rape kink is NOT the same as approving of or glorifying rape. Many people, particularly women, who have this kink are left feeling shitty about it because they don't make or understand that distinction. It is fairly common for trauma to influence kinks/fantasies, and CNC (consensual non-consent) is often a useful tool to re-empower victims to take back control of their sex-life.

The subreddit has a lot of useful info on the subject. The following is from their info page, in response to people criticizing them of condoning rape:
It's about recognizing and dealing with whatever effect it had on her. If she has rape urges, rape fantasies, finds her rape flashbacks arousing, that's OK and that's what's right for her at this moment. It doesn't make it right or good that the rape happened, it's not glorifying that the rape happened, she isn't better off because it happened, but it did happen and this is how she, as an individual, needs to deal with it. Telling her that she's wrong and she needs to be a broken victim doesn't make it better for her. We do not particularly expect others to agree or understand, and do not seek to promote this beyond those who are already of like mind.

I personally perceive rape in games as a form of CNC. You're participating in the fantasy of it in a virtual world, where real people aren't harmed, so it can be safely explored without guilt or shame.
I know it's something people like when it comes to games with these tags, but frankly I just don't see Sammy going along with it unless it's with someone she knows and is actually roleplaying. No way would she accept some random rapist.

Then there is me just not wanting to write that stuff.

So... is this gonna get fixed? I didn't see Sam_Tail saying anything about it. The perk getting removed makes it grindy to the point that it's just unfun.
I don't answer some things because I want to hear what others say. The moment I answer something then conversation tends to end on the topic.

Is there a way to add or remove perks through console or cheats?
player.remove_perk(perk_name)

Sammy, was there new clothing added besides the coats? I remember reading about new clothing, somewhere, buh I haf terrible memory.
Some clothes took a hit because I didn't have time to add it all back in. There is a clothing/customisation part planned for the bountiful series so they will be in somewhat soon.

noticed another thing since we can now customize Sammy at the beginning of the game we can also have her start with no pubes. but now there is some dialogue regarding your need to shave which may not make any sense now.
however, this gave me a bit of an idea that maybe if you chose the no pubes option at the being you just don't have any body hair which could, in turn, result in some dialogue with Emily about her being jealous about having to shave. while Sammy is smooth like a dolphin.
Customising Sammy at the start was kind of a last moment addition so some things like the comments didn't get updated. Will go through that stuff when I once again update the prologue for the flatmate update.

Edit: It seems that she has a better stamina, because she never passed out in that bar. No matter how drunk she is. Are there any new Requirements?
The pass out/puke scene was removed as I felt it disturbed the flow of working at the bar. I want Sammy to accept drinks and get drunk so things get more sexy, but then making her pass out felt counter to that.

There's definitely a memory leak of some sort going on here. The longer you run the game, the slower it runs until you have to quit and reboot it.

As for other stuff... this version has a lot more content than the previous one, even just moving around content. That's cool.
I went with Exhibitionist as my Origin, and it gave me the Commando perk, which...
On the one hand, being unwilling to wear (and even incapable of owning) underwear is a neat trait... but on the other hand it takes away some options to do exhibitionism too.

Like, I get what you're going for, but this leaves me unable to make my character walk outside in just her underwear, or wear sexy underwear like transparent lace or crotchless panties or pasties.

It feels like a more elegant solution would be to replace the commando perk with a perk that allows you to wear clothes or underwear, but not both at the same time.

Also, becoming infertile (through the hospital? I just cheated for mine) should probably disable the Baby Crazy perk. The sole reason I had her take that many nuts inside her on dangerous days is because I knew nothing would happen, but now she's talking like she wants to pop one out and I don't know how to make it stop.
Likewise, she picked up the Creampie lover trait which apparently prevents me from seeing anal scenes every again?

Traits that bar you from content shouldn't be so easy to pick up by accident.
Adding the commando perk to the exhibitionist for me felt a no brainer, but seems to be a lot of complaints about it so I will revisit the idea, especially now it can be gained naturally (was'nt always the case)

So is that succubus pill permanent? The near-infinite energy and lust makes it easier to grind for the other perks, but I feel like there's probably some kind of drawback I haven't found yet, besides basically never being able to sleep again.

Also, does it turn her hair purple? Or is that some kind of quirk with the new color system? I dyed my Sam's hair another color before using the pill, and when she woke up it was purple.
Doesn't turn the hair purple. Not sure what would cause that. And yes for now it is permanent but later you will be able to add/remove some perks through the psychologist.

Is having sex at the pub supposed to lower you confidence stat? It happens at the moment of penetration, it lowers the stat by 3.

Also the having sex at the pub (accept to be a whore) is giving a red letter error message, "Image 'sb_againstwall3 outfit dummy[...]" after the againstwall3 I can't read it, cause the event picture is in front of it. I had Sam sell her stockings and panties, but I'm not sure if the error started appearing before that.

And the game also does a check that says "Totally Wasted Drunk" even when Sam is kinda sober, at the moment the choice for where the patron may cum appears.

I don't know if that makes a difference, but I tend to use the rollback a lot.

Edit: After re-buying the panties and stocking, the red letter error message did not appear again (atleast on the side view picture), but the decrease in stat still happened, and the totally wasted drunk as well.

Edit2: Ok, the top view picture the error message appeared as well, even with panties and the stockings.
Sammy selling herself when she is not a whore hurts her mood and confidence.

Hey, developer Sam_Tail ! About economic... if you please:
1) You can add a random robbery event where Sammy is given the choice of "fuck and lose some of the money" and "resist, get beaten and lose more money." At the same time, the more money Sammy has, the higher the chance to get an event and a larger percentage of money can be taken;
2) a) You can eventually :p add a landlord (for begin with at least a few of repeteable H-scenes) who will collect a rent;
2) b) Maybe add room upgrades like a better bed, a better shower, a better TV, etc. Upgrades will be done by the landlord himself for a one-time fee AND an increase in the cost of rent;
3) Add a garment wear system...within reason... I don't think it's necessary to add new images for torn clothes. Perhaps it will be enough to add a random event with the destruction of the clothes (for example, Sammy got caught on a branch of a bush and some part of her clothes is torn). And the longer Sammy wears something, the higher the chance of an event, but never 0% and never 100%
P.S.: for a little madness. You can add some NPC who will visit Sammy from time to time and fuck her for money. It's hard to pinpoint reasons why Sammy should pay. It is possible to create a task for this NPC, in which for some reason (she break something, set it him up, someone will die through the fault of Sammy, and NPC uses it for his own purposes), Sammy will become partially dependent on him. And at a random moments, this NPC will come first for money, then time he will offer fuck, and if Sammy agrees, then he will come the next times for money AND fuck.
1. There is a rare robbery scene
2. Landlord is planned and upgrades we will see
3. Probably never a wear system

So how do you even gain confidence? What are you supposed to do to raise it?

Also, the changelog mentions a new body_confidence stat. Where do you see this and how is it changed?
Body confidence is a stat I included to track how used to the new body Sammy is, mostly for the male start. All it really does is trigger events commenting about the new body and eventually when it reaches 0, removes the male start perk and let's Sammy pick another.

However, I have one major question: is the game some kind of sandbox, or are there "routes"/questlines out there ? I mean, I know there are questlines, but are there hidden ones, or, more importantly, mutually-exclusive ones ?

I always feel terrible when I'm playing a game with mutually-exclusive paths and I end up missing something i'd like to see, or, worse, choosing a path while I would prefer the other one, without realizing it.

So, if the game has such routes, bonus question is: is there some kind of walkthrough or at least rough guide giving some pointers ?

Thanks a lot.
The game has a main quest with branches. Some content can be missed but you are never punished for taking one route over another.

and does it need to stay on 7 days so she can give birth?
You can change in the cheat menu how long it takes

After the gym class, why does MC sometimes put on party clothes and sometimes everyday clothes?
It depends on the time. During the day she will dress in daily clothes, the even in her party clothes.

Hi, Can i get gamine, exhibitionist trait... without taking it at the start ?
There is a questline planned to be able to get it, but currently it's not possible.

will there be bigger boobs ?
No. This is all you are getting for now.

Is the dance troupe story/ending/party thing in? I didn't think it was but may have missed it in a previous update.
Not yet. I need to do the prostitution update before I can complete this stroy.

I'm not a huge fan of the "wandering around the market" mechanic. Maybe have it so that once you've encountered a certain clothing item you can navigate back to it later? Or at least increase the odds of actually finding something instead of wasting a bunch of time for nothing.
Permanent vendors are planned to be added like the needle girls with the wandering around designed to be able to look for cheaper deals. But I haven't added it in yet

How do changes to min/max stats work?
  1. When it says "Desire max (300)", is it increasing by 300 or setting to 300?
  2. How does negative stats work? Bambi has "Desire max (-200)" so I assume that means max desire is negative to start with.
  3. Do desire thresholds work on percent or flat numbers? In other words does high max desire make it harder to be aroused or does it just unlock events?
The default cap for stats is 0 - 100. Desire max of 300 will raise the default 100 by 300 giving a total of 400 max. Bambi gives a -200 max so it reduces the default 100 to 0 (cant go below 0)

This is just the cap though. you might have a max desire of 500 but still only have an actual desire of 30 because Sammy is not that horny. It just means that the more horny she gets, the higher it goes past 100.

I did notice, on PC, that the game becomes really laggy after a while. Well, several hours, but still.
As for bugs:
The first Institute quest has an option to approach the target in bar uniform, which I assume you get when you start working there, but somehow, I don't have that option, nor the option to start working. I will check this again because I have a suspicion.
Also, is it intended that you need only 1 of the tools for the glory hole, then when you check it you automatically get the second one? Lacking the option to cut through the park from home to revel street slows the game down some, what with the lag.
Lastly, in about 5 hours, with admittedly only a dozen tries or so, I have yet to find any clothing except swim wear.
Well, I didn't know the option might spawn on the market, so I guess I didn't miss that. But I probably also won't keep trying, I tend to find nothing either way.
You need to work more than 1 shift at the bar to unlock wearing the outfit.

Tell me, in the old versions, there were more revealing clothes and there were traces of sunburn from the bikini, was it all removed?
Tans were removed because with the breasts variation is was not possible. Plus I will be adding a pickable skintone soon so it felt redundant.
 

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Now don't get me wrong, i really like your game(y) BUT! I hate it when something that was already in the game in previous versions get taken out for no reason? Where are all the sexy fishnet clothes?? Hotpants are gone too? Why??:cry:
 
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