Ren'Py The Fixer [v0.3.3.21] [Sam_Tail]

[hgffdh]

What you mention is manually doing it.

I thought manually doing it is what you've done with the factory mission where you get one outfit that you cant change.

I can't just raytrace and check if nipples are showing. I also can't just check if they are transparent because some clothes have transparent sleeves or other bits that do not expose the player. So I have to add in for every piece of clothing weather making that part transparent will reveal Sammys breasts.

You technically can do that if you a) make Sammy's body layer completely transparent b) calculate opacity of the resulting image at required areas. You'd only need to have different predefined areas for different breast sizes and bra/no bra. You will also be unable to account for areola slips, lewd underwear etc.

Also funny you mention newlife because it is an example of what I am aiming to avoid. It has so many stats to the point that most of them become pointless and seriously under utilised. It also increases the workload when you have to factor in 30 stats as opposed to 5 while giving pretty much the same result. There are solutions for fixing the allure stats that do not involve throwing in more stats, I just didn't have time to do it for this release.

I think the main problem of Newlife (in relation to clothes) is not that there are too many stats. Its that a) there are actually too few stats and too many flags, lots of flags could just be replaced with one stat of different values b) events usually care only for 1-2 stat thresholds so once you minmaxed outfit for them theres no point fiddling with clothes and you wear that one outfit entire game. The other problems are offtopic.

Anyway I was just trying to give advice, sorry if my expectations were divorced from your actual plans.

 

[vrtrtr]

Anyway I was just trying to give advice, sorry if my expectations were divorced from your actual plans.

Not to be that guy, but why exactly are you giving advice? Where's your successfully released porn game?
Maybe I'm being unkind and you just meant feedback, which a consumer should always be free to give.

 

[fakehb]

Not to be that guy, but why exactly are you giving advice? Where's your successfully released porn game?

And why would he need one? Would it make him more or less correct? That's fallacious thinking.

As a programmer and a developer, but not an H-game dev or someone with a lot of experience in Renpy, my intuition nonetheless is that while Sam_Tail is correct about some specific examples of what doesn't work well, hgffdh is correct in principle. It is of course possible to come up with an approximation that minimizes (but doesn't reduce to zero) manual work.

For example, have a list of a dozen or so points that are different places on the body. Each point has a rating regarding how important it is to cover to maintain modesty. Each garment has metadata that says which points it covers, and whether that coverage is affected by transparency. You have a function to calculate the coverage at each point, and a function to determine overall slutiness (eg. the minimum of the average of the various points modified by weight, and just the average of the points that cover privates).

That doesn't need to be the exact implementation. You could define regions rather than points. but even if an optimal solution is practically impossible, it is certainly possible to have systems in place where you only need to add a bit of data to clothing items to facilitate a good enough approximation.

 

[drenai1]

To add to fakehb's point, sometimes the developer can be too close to the work to see it objectively. Quite often, an outsider will notice flaws that the developer misses. Alternately, the outsider may have ideas that simply have not occurred to the developer.

I'm not any kind of programmer, but over the last couple of years, I've made a number of suggestions and given constructive criticism of "The Fixer", both here and on the Discord. I only have the vaguest of ideas about how any of this would be implemented, but I have seen evidence that Sam_Tail listens to what players have to say and makes changes based on what those players have said.

That doesn't mean that every suggestion is going to be followed or that the game will be altered because someone didn't like a certain aspect of the game. There are a handful of areas where my viewpoint is diametrically opposed to Sam_Tail's. In these instances, I accept that ultimately, it's Sam's game, not mine. Even here though, I know that whatever point I've made has been heard and considered before being rejected.

 

[Suncatcher42]

Commando (and other perks) do need a way to be removed. I will be looking into this soon.

Glad to hear that. It's weird that getting cum inside five times in total over the course of her life permanently reprograms her to become obsessed with trying to get pregnant... and that you can simultaneously have the buttslut trait and the 'will never ask for anal' trait.

On the topic of clothing, it seems like it wouldn't be very difficult to have a handful of booleans attached to each garment like 'conceals nipples y/n' and then if any of the things you're wearing cover nipples then they're considered covered, if the answer is no for every garment then they're visible. But having all those in addition to a general lewdness stat for each article of clothing gets cumbersome, and the more things need to get checked before every interaction can go through the slower the game runs.

I could see merit in reworking the allure system so instead of each item having a own numerical value it analyzes your overall outfit (is nipple showing? if not, is areola showing? if not, is underboob showing? if not, is cleavage showing? if not, is shoulder showing? and so forth to determine the total degree of sluttiness/prudishness), but that would be a lot of work for the dev that could be spent on new scenes, characters, locations, quests...

 

[Nutting The Rueful]

Found this guide ;D

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[Bigbread123]

How do you trigger the peephole gang bang scene at haven? I've tried having low confidence, and drunk but it doesn't work. Just the repeatable scene with the peeper. Is there a certain perk for it?

 

[Sam_Tail]

I thought manually doing it is what you've done with the factory mission where you get one outfit that you cant change.

Automatically would be something along the lines of firing a ray, checking if it is able to hit the nipple art assets, and if so, doing something.

Manual would be almost anything else. Yes there are a bunch of solutions to it and it's not necessarily hard to do. It's just not a 30 second fix. I will have to add more tags like I talk about below and calculate based on that.

I could see merit in reworking the allure system so instead of each item having a own numerical value it analyzes your overall outfit (is nipple showing? if not, is areola showing? if not, is underboob showing? if not, is cleavage showing? if not, is shoulder showing? and so forth to determine the total degree of sluttiness/prudishness), but that would be a lot of work for the dev that could be spent on new scenes, characters, locations, quests...

Basically how it is now. Clothes have specific tags that say if cleavage is shown, the belly, if it's skin tight, if nipples poke through and so on. Allure is added based on that. I don't add arbitrary amounts to each item.

How do you trigger the peephole gang bang scene at haven? I've tried having low confidence, and drunk but it doesn't work. Just the repeatable scene with the peeper. Is there a certain perk for it?

There is no peephole gangbang. Only sex with the peeper or when caught by someone else. The Haven gangbang scenes are with the guards or through the prison ending.

 

[redghost14]

How do you get all the tattoos at haven? Or in general?

 

[souldead341]

How do you get all the tattoos at haven? Or in general?

Not in the main game section yet. The closest thing is the body writing from various events (losing in challenge games vs the soccer boys and the bullies IIRC). You can also get a marker from shops to do them yourself.

 

[FTFaceless]

This game looks so SMOOOOOOOOOTH and so many options it doesn't even feels like a Ren'Py game.
It reminds me another game - Degrees of Lewdity, but with way better graphics and severely toned down "content", which I actually like...
Also I think it needs to have some Q&A on main page of what will and not gonna be in game (like futa or tentacles/monsters content for example).

Also few questions: will there be some sync between cosmetics and clothing? I know that drawing a clown face should be done in front of a mirror, but what about jewelry and stuff? Also will there be preset slots for cosmetics as well?

Would also be neat to have an option to look for specific stalls (higher chance) in Outdoor Market area like looking for clothing stalls or miscellaneous stuff. It's kinda frustrating to spend whole day stumbling only upon some cigarette sellers.

 

[zuulan]

I played it far back when it had few features, like the game idea but there was not much to play with. Now i started the game again and running on the most vexing issues.

• Player dont have much control over adult interaction. AK in bus or in school it randomly sayis "player rejects advances". SHoulnt be player in control and decide how far it will be ready to go or have some important influnce them. On some cases it is totally understandable if you are drunk you cant control much. If you are no fit abuser can take advantage of player. If you are not smart you dont pass some things. But if NPC initiates adult interaction, player should decide how to answer to this.
• Another issue what i found is arbitral stats decrease when day is over. Stats decrease on willpower, Fitness, and intelligence. And it is almost impossible to keep them up. Basically, you spend every moment in school even on weekends. And have no time for scavenging or other stuff. I think this is too much. to maintenance form. It should check only once in week. And there should be minimum effort go to maintenance stats. Maybe like 5 action on fitness and 5 action in intelligence to keep it on level, if you do more you increase your stats. Maintaning a willpower is most vexing. Random eent in bus or day swicth can decrease willpower of 6 points and it is impossible to make back with even day. asically with save scummin i get my willpower to 70 and fitness and intelligence to 80, but if i want to maintain them need to work hard everyday and have no time for other things.

Dont wish to use ingame cheats also couse they increase stats basically 10 points at time and i dont want to add more points than i lost daily.

 

[FTFaceless]

I played it far back when it had few features, like the game idea but there was not much to play with. Now i started the game again and running on the most vexing issues.

• Player dont have much control over adult interaction. AK in bus or in school it randomly sayis "player rejects advances". SHoulnt be player in control and decide how far it will be ready to go or have some important influnce them. On some cases it is totally understandable if you are drunk you cant control much. If you are no fit abuser can take advantage of player. If you are not smart you dont pass some things. But if NPC initiates adult interaction, player should decide how to answer to this.
• Another issue what i found is arbitral stats decrease when day is over. Stats decrease on willpower, Fitness, and intelligence. And it is almost impossible to keep them up. Basically, you spend every moment in school even on weekends. And have no time for scavenging or other stuff. I think this is too much. to maintenance form. It should check only once in week. And there should be minimum effort go to maintenance stats. Maybe like 5 action on fitness and 5 action in intelligence to keep it on level, if you do more you increase your stats. Maintaning a willpower is most vexing. Random eent in bus or day swicth can decrease willpower of 6 points and it is impossible to make back with even day. asically with save scummin i get my willpower to 70 and fitness and intelligence to 80, but if i want to maintain them need to work hard everyday and have no time for other things.

Dont wish to use ingame cheats also couse they increase stats basically 10 points at time and i dont want to add more points than i lost daily.

Seems like some perks sets a floor for some stats like fitness can't decrease below 20 no matter what you do. Tho I think it would be neat that such feats stack (tho made them lower individually for balance reasons).

Confidence (or willpower if I'm referring right) is just straight up stupid weird - you have no consistent ways to raise it and random occurrences drop it like a bread slice with butter face down on the ground. Super frustrating.

Also a proper numerical stats window with min/max values would be a gods blessing.

 

[Suncatcher42]

• Player dont have much control over adult interaction. AK in bus or in school it randomly sayis "player rejects advances". SHoulnt be player in control and decide how far it will be ready to go or have some important influnce them. On some cases it is totally understandable if you are drunk you cant control much. If you are no fit abuser can take advantage of player. If you are not smart you dont pass some things. But if NPC initiates adult interaction, player should decide how to answer to this.

One of the big themes of the game is gradually becoming corrupted by the dystopian world and the job you're doing; that would be lost completely if the protagonist started out willing to do anything and everything with anyone. You get more options to agree to sex after you've had sex more, but there are also background traits you can pick to speed through the process if you prefer. For prostitution specifically, one thing that messes a lot of people up is that your current money plays a big factor (Sammy has the option to do lewd things for money even if she wouldn't do them ordinarily as long as she's broke and desperate, but if you grind up a bunch of cash or use cheats she feels too comfortable to be pushed that way).

Alternatively, if you go scavving on the beach enough, you'll find a mysterious pill. Try to use it, and Sammy will give you a brief description and why that's a terrible idea. Try to use it again, the response changes. Repeat the process enough and she'll finally eat it, which will permanently increase your desire cap by a huge amount, make it so you need sex instead of sleep to recover energy, and make it so the player always has the option to say yes.

• Another issue what i found is arbitral stats decrease when day is over. Stats decrease on willpower, Fitness, and intelligence. And it is almost impossible to keep them up. Basically, you spend every moment in school even on weekends. And have no time for scavenging or other stuff. I think this is too much. to maintenance form. It should check only once in week. And there should be minimum effort go to maintenance stats. Maybe like 5 action on fitness and 5 action in intelligence to keep it on level, if you do more you increase your stats. Maintaning a willpower is most vexing. Random eent in bus or day swicth can decrease willpower of 6 points and it is impossible to make back with even day. asically with save scummin i get my willpower to 70 and fitness and intelligence to 80, but if i want to maintain them need to work hard everyday and have no time for other things.

Dont wish to use ingame cheats also couse they increase stats basically 10 points at time and i dont want to add more points than i lost daily.

For a life-sim, it makes sense that you would need to continue exercising and studying to maintain high stats instead of just maxxing them out once and then never going to school or running again. I think you do have some degree of control though; I think that getting drunk every night increases the rate that Int drops relative to how it would act if you stay sober, for example. But if you want to maintain things with cheats, I'm pretty sure that the thresholds for where the numbers affect things are the same as where the colors on the top bar icons change, so if for example you want to keep peak physical fitness anywhere in the 80-100 range is identical and you can just add ten points every time it drops to 79 or less to effectively keep up with the rate of decay.

What I'm not a fan of is the way progress seems to be RNG-based at higher levels. Like, if I'm unlucky I could spend the entire weekend doing nothing but work out and still have fitness drop because I failed the roll every time, and if I'm lucky (or save scum) I can maintain a score in the 90s just by going to gym class once a weekday. Some sort of fractional system would feel better to me, though the increase in granularity might have trickle-down problems for game complexity in general.

And yeah, willpower seems almost random, because I'm not aware of any way to deliberately train it and events totally outside of your control can take away a whole bunch at a time at random intervals.

 

[zuulan]

Well i had no idea there was a forcefully get corrupted. I have 2 games running. One character is bimbo her path is going to be total slut has already had alot of releationships. Other character is daring exhab, but she virgin and one day she hope to find that right man or woman and that why i think player input should be important.

 

[Capt. Fubar]

Howdy;

This game desperately needs some... naughty animations, it would be a shame to leave it like this.

 

[ZixSum]

I checked out the new update, it's MASSIVE, and all the changes are quite good, I really enjoy what I see here, good job!
I noticed a few typos when replaying the first few weeks of the game with a new (customized!) character, they should be extremely easy to fix for the next update which I happily await for as always.

 

[FTFaceless]

Does anyone knows where I can sell junk books? They keep piling and no idea where to sell them.

 

[lolchito]

I would like to ask, the game will have more perks, like cum eater, or a perk like masochist?, I mean an perk that the protagonist starts to like or doesn't care about the rape or hits.

 

[Sam_Tail]

This game looks so SMOOOOOOOOOTH and so many options it doesn't even feels like a Ren'Py game.
It reminds me another game - Degrees of Lewdity, but with way better graphics and severely toned down "content", which I actually like...
Also I think it needs to have some Q&A on main page of what will and not gonna be in game (like futa or tentacles/monsters content for example).

Also few questions: will there be some sync between cosmetics and clothing? I know that drawing a clown face should be done in front of a mirror, but what about jewelry and stuff? Also will there be preset slots for cosmetics as well?

Would also be neat to have an option to look for specific stalls (higher chance) in Outdoor Market area like looking for clothing stalls or miscellaneous stuff. It's kinda frustrating to spend whole day stumbling only upon some cigarette sellers.

Possibly, but I kept it all being one set to not overwhelm players having unique accessories and makeup per outfit. Not many people ask for it though so I can only assume that people are fairly happy with the current system

Stalls will be expanded., I just didn't have time for it in the last release. Wandering the stalls is only meant for trying to snag discounted items that show up as RNG and not the main way to shop.

I played it far back when it had few features, like the game idea but there was not much to play with. Now i started the game again and running on the most vexing issues.

• Player dont have much control over adult interaction. AK in bus or in school it randomly sayis "player rejects advances". SHoulnt be player in control and decide how far it will be ready to go or have some important influnce them. On some cases it is totally understandable if you are drunk you cant control much. If you are no fit abuser can take advantage of player. If you are not smart you dont pass some things. But if NPC initiates adult interaction, player should decide how to answer to this.
• Another issue what i found is arbitral stats decrease when day is over. Stats decrease on willpower, Fitness, and intelligence. And it is almost impossible to keep them up. Basically, you spend every moment in school even on weekends. And have no time for scavenging or other stuff. I think this is too much. to maintenance form. It should check only once in week. And there should be minimum effort go to maintenance stats. Maybe like 5 action on fitness and 5 action in intelligence to keep it on level, if you do more you increase your stats. Maintaning a willpower is most vexing. Random eent in bus or day swicth can decrease willpower of 6 points and it is impossible to make back with even day. asically with save scummin i get my willpower to 70 and fitness and intelligence to 80, but if i want to maintain them need to work hard everyday and have no time for other things.

Dont wish to use ingame cheats also couse they increase stats basically 10 points at time and i dont want to add more points than i lost daily.

What control you have is determined by your stats/perks. The player can't force Sammy to do something that would be out of character for her.

Stats gain/loss is something I am looking at now so will probably be fairly different in the next build.

Seems like some perks sets a floor for some stats like fitness can't decrease below 20 no matter what you do. Tho I think it would be neat that such feats stack (tho made them lower individually for balance reasons).

Confidence (or willpower if I'm referring right) is just straight up stupid weird - you have no consistent ways to raise it and random occurrences drop it like a bread slice with butter face down on the ground. Super frustrating.

Also a proper numerical stats window with min/max values would be a gods blessing.

Perk stat increases/decreases do stack. And as mentioned above, I am looking into stat stuff now so will be a bit different in the next release.

Howdy;

This game desperately needs some... naughty animations, it would be a shame to leave it like this.

There will never be animations.

I checked out the new update, it's MASSIVE, and all the changes are quite good, I really enjoy what I see here, good job!
I noticed a few typos when replaying the first few weeks of the game with a new (customized!) character, they should be extremely easy to fix for the next update which I happily await for as always.

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Thanks for the reports, will fix for the next build.

Does anyone knows where I can sell junk books? They keep piling and no idea where to sell them.

Currently nowhere. They were added with the idea you would sell them in the library, but I didn't have time to add the characters in yet.

I would like to ask, the game will have more perks, like cum eater, or a perk like masochist?, I mean an perk that the protagonist starts to like or doesn't care about the rape or hits.

Eventually. I wanted to test things out first with a smaller collection of perks before expanding on them.