Essta

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Sep 12, 2023
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Haven still is a sore spot gameplay balance wise. If anything, its worse now because we now have the despodent trait, which serves to take away even more agency.

Please do something about it. The combined debuffs add up to -70 moodMax (raped and beaten) then on top of that, most of the time, cum stained for another -20 and filthy for some more, forcing your mood into the negatives. Once there, Sam will drink beers every scene transistion without it actually being able to raise her mood.

So the player is stuck in a loop of whoring for beer exactly every three scene transistions (if Sam doesnt pass out and refresh the debuffs meanwhile, cause black out drunk drains your energy quickly).

Three scene transistions is enough to make it to the lobby guard and talk to him, and if you are lucky with the "hang out" button placing you in the sleeping quarters, showering. If hang out puts you into the longue you can eavesdrop once. But not much else.

My suggestion would be to make the numb to the world trait negate mood penalties from the raped debuff and have drunkeness raise minimum mood, so it can actually raise the mood if your mood is being forced down by max mood penalties. And probably; there should be a cooldown on the forced ingestion of the brews. Doing so would potentially allow Sam to stop caring and move on once she gets the numb trait and if not, carefully dig herself out of the mood spiral by taking care of her needs instead of the mission.

As is however, the game pretty much runs on autoplay and there is no agency for the player whatsoeveer.
 

arabidgrandma

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Jul 10, 2018
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How do you remove the lockable ballgag? Got it put on in the pink room, but it wasn't taken off at the end of the scene. No idea if I'm meant to find someone to help with it. Interacting with it in the inventory just says it's locked and can't get rid of it.
 

Suncatcher42

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I have a question can we play a pure lesbian route or not
Technically, yes.

You will likely need to savescum or abuse the rewind feature to avoid getting raped by men, and I'm only aware of one girl in the current version who will have sex with you outside of orgy scenes, who has not a lot of scenes/interactions yet.

More options should open up eventually, but for now what you want to do is avoid all sex (or situations where you might lose agency due to intoxication, emotional distress, etc), while hanging out at the junkyard as much as you can and scavenging a lot. You'll have a series of encounters with a girl there who gradually becomes closer and flirtier, invites you to hang out outside her shack in the evenings, and then invites you inside where you can share her bed and her shower, with minor repeatable sex scenes.
This is also the only place you can safely and reliably sleep outside your own assigned apartment iirc.

Note that as far as the game systems are concerned, you will still be classified as a "pure virgin" no matter how many times another person is all up inside you as long as they don't have a dick.
 

Mommysbuttslut

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You will likely need to savescum or abuse the rewind feature to avoid getting raped by men, and I'm only aware of one girl in the current version who will have sex with you outside of orgy scenes, who has not a lot of scenes/interactions yet.
Just don't turn the danger variable on and as long as Sammy doesn't get super drunk and horny at the bar pretty well all sex is avoidable. I think it can still happen from the selling underwear scene but other than that it's not hard to avoid anymore.
 

dat3

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Nov 1, 2021
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I have a question can we play a pure lesbian route or not
Hang out with the scrap yard chick, 2-3 weeks (in game time) of talking to her and she'll let you stay in the junk yard with her.
It's free rent there with wake up calls.
 

Penitensary

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You will likely need to savescum or abuse the rewind feature to avoid getting raped by men, and I'm only aware of one girl in the current version who will have sex with you outside of orgy scenes, who has not a lot of scenes/interactions yet.
Basically, during the first week or so get as much physical (jogging in the park, working out at home) done as possible, with earlygame bonuses it should rocket up the Fitness stat. At 50+ i believe you can fight off anyone as long as you're not drunk or passing out from lack of sleep, which just leaves the bad player decisions to be wary of :p
 

BigAlzBub

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Where is the washing machine?
Or better, there is one?
In accordance with the pointless regulation act of 2035 all citizens of Blaston are required to shower with their clothes in the tub to save water, it is a very unpopular act, along with Meatloaf Wednesdays...

In all seriousness, I don't believe there is one, and given how abstracted life is in the game, I don't really see it being added any time soon ever. For one thing they would have to completely revamp the inventory system along with keeping track of how many of any given garment you have, along with giving you multiple slots for each clothing category to allow for when things are too dirty and in the basket awaiting washing and drying. Also there is nowhere to dry washing, so it would need to have a utility room to the apartment complex, unless a laundromat was added, which I suppose could lead to some shenanigans, such as being molested while retrieving your washing and other such porn staples.
 
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dat3

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Nov 1, 2021
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Where is the washing machine?
Or better, there is one?
According to the lore all clothes are made of a magic material that you can change the colour, and transparency of on a whim; and never get dirty or ripped.
Just kidding, there is no mechanic for it in the game at the moment. Adding it would add degrees of complexity that would delay story elements being finished. You can always suggest it to Sam on his discord.
 

Penitensary

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While the town (mostly) has power and running water, appliances are more of a problem since you need machines to make the parts of those appliances as well as a supply chain of base materials for those parts. I'd even say most cooking and heating is done on electricity rather than gas as that eliminates a dependency, and in order to be self-sufficient in the middle of an apocalypse it's important to minimize your dependencies as much as you can.

A Laundromat wouldn't be a series of machines, but much more likely to be a business employing a group of people washing your clothes by hand. And while, yes, soap is fairly easy to make (ash, water and fat), the problem with using it in a washing machine is that it will solidify and leave residue all over its innards and it'll clog up faster than the arteries of a 600 pound guy in a burger eating contest.
 
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DerpLordGod

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May 17, 2023
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Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
ScriptError: could not find label 'random_event_generic_desirenocontrol_2'.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "scripts/locations/general/random_events/random_events_generic/random_events_horny.rpyc", line 8, in script
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 1974, in execute
    rv = renpy.game.script.lookup(target)
  File "renpy/script.py", line 927, in lookup
    raise ScriptError("could not find label '%s'." % str(original))
ScriptError: could not find label 'random_event_generic_desirenocontrol_2'.

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and at times it will be 'random_event_generic_desirenocontrol_3'
and when i got the event when MC ties them selfs up 1-all of the 3 different stats break and put thems selfs to 0 and dont change even with the cheat menu
 

Vlad11

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Dec 17, 2021
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I have tested the latest version. There something strange when Sammy in the second stage of the pregnancy. She can Join dance girls for the event but can not Dance with the girls. If SamTail has decided, that girls continues to dance during all stages of pregnancy, Sammy should be able to dance in the school also.
 

funny feller

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I cannot be arsed to wait 2 weeks for stuff to start happening, can someone give a guide on how to currently enable the danger content from the get go?
 
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While the town (mostly) has power and running water, appliances are more of a problem since you need machines to make the parts of those appliances as well as a supply chain of base materials for those parts. I'd even say most cooking and heating is done on electricity rather than gas as that eliminates a dependency, and in order to be self-sufficient in the middle of an apocalypse it's important to minimize your dependencies as much as you can.

A Laundromat wouldn't be a series of machines, but much more likely to be a business employing a group of people washing your clothes by hand. And while, yes, soap is fairly easy to make (ash, water and fat), the problem with using it in a washing machine is that it will solidify and leave residue all over its innards and it'll clog up faster than the arteries of a 600 pound guy in a burger eating contest.
Given the massive contraction in the population prior to the game, I think that a small laundromat could operate just with salvaged washing machines. Most houses would have a washing machine to salvage, so it'd be years before they ran out.
 

Vreejack

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Given the massive contraction in the population prior to the game, I think that a small laundromat could operate just with salvaged washing machines. Most houses would have a washing machine to salvage, so it'd be years before they ran out.
This is actually one of the flaws of the world concept in this game. After a massive population drop, the survivors inherit everything. Moveable property, real estate, good farm land, commodities... all resources become cheaper to buy. After the black death in Europe there was great prosperity for generations, until the population explosion returned everyone to to regular malthusian poverty.

Even better, the plague in this game killed off all the pensioners and other non-productive people in the economy who ordinarily consume a great deal. This means that for every producer, the number consumers has dropped by about half, so you can keep twice as much of what you produce. Everyone should be very wealthy.
 
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Mommysbuttslut

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This is actually one of the flaws of the world concept in this game. After a massive population drop, the survivors inherit everything. Moveable property, real estate, good farm land, commodities... all resources become cheaper to buy. After the black death in Europe there was great prosperity for generations, until the population explosion returned everyone to to regular malthusian poverty.

Even better, the plague in this game killed off all the pensioners and other non-productive people in the economy who ordinarily consume a great deal. This means that for every producer, the number consumers has dropped by about half, so you can keep twice as much of what you produce. Everyone should be very wealthy.
Population drops aren't good for post industrial economies. Makes it harder to fund infrastructure, leaves job openings that are hard to fill, that leads to failing businesses which leads to production shortages. Given how public order degenerated the people on top now probably horded the bulk of those resources preventing them from being distributed evenly. Too many people died for it to have been just the unproductive demographics even if they were over represented as casualties.
So now on top of wealth and resource inequality we've got inconsistent water and electric infrastructure, factories without enough workers and wasted property from failed businesses.
Material conditions between the plague and now are so vastly different that you can't use it as a case study for societal implications to a similar or worse plague in modern times.
 

Penitensary

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This is actually one of the flaws of the world concept in this game. After a massive population drop, the survivors inherit everything. Moveable property, real estate, good farm land, commodities... all resources become cheaper to buy. After the black death in Europe there was great prosperity for generations, until the population explosion returned everyone to to regular malthusian poverty.

Even better, the plague in this game killed off all the pensioners and other non-productive people in the economy who ordinarily consume a great deal. This means that for every producer, the number consumers has dropped by about half, so you can keep twice as much of what you produce. Everyone should be very wealthy.
You also lose out on a great amount of amassed working experience and knowledge from those people.

For a real world example, look at Zimbabwe. Then-President Mugabe chased off the (mostly older) predominantly white farmers with the intent to give the land to his followers -- less than a year later, the nation went from exporting food to massively importing food and experiencing a famine, simply because the people now in charge of the farms didn't know how to efficiently operate the machinery and work the fields:

Since 1999 the commercial farming sector has been increasingly disrupted by illegal farm occupations and other forms of violence directed at the farmers and their workers. As a consequence output declined sharply during 2002 and is expected to fall even more during 2003.

At the same time drought has resulted in a serious crop failure – virtually 100 per cent in the southern and western parts of the country and reducing the yield potential of northern area crops by 50 per cent of more. Only the very reduced soybean crop – 85 per cent under irrigation, was estimated to yield something close to original estimates.
Now look at a city, where there are many more interdependent production chains all running at the same time, and a plague would indeed have all that come crashing down rather spectacularly, which is what should and most likely has happened here.
 
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