HTML The Making of a Slut [v1.1.6] [Austinhaney6969]

[Smelph]

This game really had its hooks in me and I was enjoying it until I noticed a few things that have been bothering me, mainly that it seems like every relationship in the game is an abusive one. Every time I get someone's story to a point where it seems like I actually have a friend they quickly go back to coercion/blackmail. Now I'm kind of afraid to visit anyone because I think they are going to do something awful to me...

I might be overthinking it I suppose, but it just goes to show how well the writer made me care enough about the story and characters that I'm actually bothered by how they are treating me.

 

[austinhaney6969]

I just noticed there's a 'stamina' thing now, and apparently going to classes uses it all up. I don't think it's a good idea to have an action economy based on time slots and stamina, you always get things like this where you're halfway through the day but don't have the energy to do anything else. What is the point in that?

Sex stuff, planned minigames, capping how many dicks you can get fucked by at the gloryhole based on a realistic system rather than an arbitrary number. It also gives you an incentive to raise your physique a bit, which will be important later.

 

[austinhaney6969]

This game really had its hooks in me and I was enjoying it until I noticed a few things that have been bothering me, mainly that it seems like every relationship in the game is an abusive one. Every time I get someone's story to a point where it seems like I actually have a friend they quickly go back to coercion/blackmail. Now I'm kind of afraid to visit anyone because I think they are going to do something awful to me...

I might be overthinking it I suppose, but it just goes to show how well the writer made me care enough about the story and characters that I'm actually bothered by how they are treating me.

It's a porn game based heavily on sissification, healthy relationships probably aren't something you're going to find easily (though they will be there eventually).

 

[Master of Puppets]

Sex stuff, planned minigames, capping how many dicks you can get fucked by at the gloryhole based on a realistic system rather than an arbitrary number. It also gives you an incentive to raise your physique a bit, which will be important later.

Right... and in the meantime we can only do half the things in a day that we should be able to.

In other news I really like what appears to be a move towards allowing you to avoid getting permanently locked up. As a transitional thing it's pretty badly broken right now but when it's finished that will be really welcome.

 

[austinhaney6969]

Right... and in the meantime we can only do half the things in a day that we should be able to.

In other news I really like what appears to be a move towards allowing you to avoid getting permanently locked up. As a transitional thing it's pretty badly broken right now but when it's finished that will be really welcome.

Yeah, it's a move from being perma-locked, you can ALREADY pick your lock you know. (provided you're on 0.6.0 and up).

And as for doing only half the things in a day you "should" be able to... I mean, you can spend 8 hours at school and 4 at work, with some time left over to do this or that... Seems like a FULL day to me. But if you think I should tweak it a bit, let me know.

Pssst, your physique goes up when working out, going on a walk, or when you masturbate.

 

[lunarian21]

When you are at an end of the school scenes, and have plenty of $.
The game just boils down to seeing 1 or 2 scenes a day from the 'people' menu.
That is a lot of extra pointless clicking every day, even worse when sometimes your visit to someone is completely pointless and you just get turned away for no reason.

 

[austinhaney6969]

When you are at an end of the school scenes, and have plenty of $.
The game just boils down to seeing 1 or 2 scenes a day from the 'people' menu.
That is a lot of extra pointless clicking every day, even worse when sometimes your visit to someone is completely pointless and you just get turned away for no reason.

I plan to flesh out that early game content a bit with some fun activities/random events, I have quite a few written up, I just haven't gone through the tedious process of incorporating them into my new system and whatnot. I also plan to have some after school clubs where you can interact with characters from the classes.

 

[Master of Puppets]

Yeah, it's a move from being perma-locked, you can ALREADY pick your lock you know. (provided you're on 0.6.0 and up).

A lot of the scenes still act like you're locked even if you aren't though, which is what I mean by it being broken ATM. Also some sequence breaking, like Riley acting like you cheated with Bailey even if you didn't yet, and Bailey demanding your key even if Riley already took it. I get it, it's in the middle of a big change and these things will be fixed, but they're pretty funny right now.

And as for doing only half the things in a day you "should" be able to... I mean, you can spend 8 hours at school and 4 at work, with some time left over to do this or that... Seems like a FULL day to me. But if you think I should tweak it a bit, let me know.

No, doing all the lessons plus the automatic masturbation scene afterwards completely drains stamina, and even once you stop going to lessons (which is the biggest drain) you still often need two naps to get through the whole day. That's eight hours of naps to eight hours of activity, so half. I just think stamina is a really bad idea, all those other things you mentioned depending on physical stat sound fine (possibly; if we're going to need high physique for the dominant path when it gets here that sounds like grind) but don't limit the player's actions like that. Most games only do energy based or time slot based action economy, and that's for a reason.

 

[mojo211995]

When will pregnancy be implemented

 

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A lot of the scenes still act like you're locked even if you aren't though, which is what I mean by it being broken ATM. Also some sequence breaking, like Riley acting like you cheated with Bailey even if you didn't yet, and Bailey demanding your key even if Riley already took it. I get it, it's in the middle of a big change and these things will be fixed, but they're pretty funny right now.



No, doing all the lessons plus the automatic masturbation scene afterwards completely drains stamina, and even once you stop going to lessons (which is the biggest drain) you still often need two naps to get through the whole day. That's eight hours of naps to eight hours of activity, so half. I just think stamina is a really bad idea, all those other things you mentioned depending on physical stat sound fine (possibly; if we're going to need high physique for the dominant path when it gets here that sounds like grind) but don't limit the player's actions like that. Most games only do energy based or time slot based action economy, and that's for a reason.

I've gotten the occasional bit where even on day 2 blondie will try to extort money from me for butt stuff with someone i've only spoken to once at that point
(this is of course not talking about runs which use the debug menu, since doing any gender changes automatically flags the extortion scene as on since unlocking the clinic/gender function is part of her route apparently)

speaking of: it's real annoying trying to get ten thousand dollars for someone when they continue to blackmail you for money every week; them giving you a break for that duration would make the grind a lot less awful, and the whole following scene where that apparently goes up in smoke with yet another "and also fuck you" really makes me wish there were an option to actually get back at some of the characters.
or at least more bitter "you are actively blackmailing/abusing me, i hate you"-style responses, since this game is (currently) 100% fuck you recursive blackmail/no-win scenarios with basically zero positives at any point (100% stick, 0% carrot), because everyone lies to your face, instantly breaks agreements with zero hesitation or remorse regardless of the extent they demand you work to follow your end of it (up to committing crimes and demanding exorbitant amounts of money), and actively doesn't give a shit about you--which i should note is fine from a gameplay/player perspective, but in the shoes of the main character most people would either lash out to defend themselves or commit suicide (and the former would have pretty great court defenses due to the whole continuous layered blackmail from everyone and their dog and the trauma of regularly being drugged, forced to commit crimes, and abused in the full spectrum of physical/sexual/emotional/psychological/financial/identity/and on and on).

 

[austinhaney6969]

I've gotten the occasional bit where even on day 2 blondie will try to extort money from me for butt stuff with someone i've only spoken to once at that point
(this is of course not talking about runs which use the debug menu, since doing any gender changes automatically flags the extortion scene as on since unlocking the clinic/gender function is part of her route apparently)

speaking of: it's real annoying trying to get ten thousand dollars for someone when they continue to blackmail you for money every week; them giving you a break for that duration would make the grind a lot less awful, and the whole following scene where that apparently goes up in smoke with yet another "and also fuck you" really makes me wish there were an option to actually get back at some of the characters.
or at least more bitter "you are actively blackmailing/abusing me, i hate you"-style responses, since this game is (currently) 100% fuck you recursive blackmail/no-win scenarios with basically zero positives at any point (100% stick, 0% carrot), because everyone lies to your face, instantly breaks agreements with zero hesitation or remorse regardless of the extent they demand you work to follow your end of it (up to committing crimes and demanding exorbitant amounts of money), and actively doesn't give a shit about you--which i should note is fine from a gameplay/player perspective, but in the shoes of the main character most people would either lash out to defend themselves or commit suicide (and the former would have pretty great court defenses due to the whole continuous layered blackmail from everyone and their dog and the trauma of regularly being drugged, forced to commit crimes, and abused in the full spectrum of physical/sexual/emotional/psychological/financial/identity/and on and on).

I'll work on the money system in the near future, and maybe implement a delay of sorts during the whole "I need 10k" thing. And uh, remember, it's a VIDYA GAME . Not going for 100% realistic encounters here, because REALISTICALLY, the second Bailey said "I'm keeping the key" you'd just quit that job and take out a massive student loan like everyone else.

 

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all true, and like i said, totally fine from a player perspective since you should presumably know what you're getting into playing this.
and i dunno, her also threatening to fire you and have you blacklisted (and therefore ruining your future/chance to pay off theoretical massive student loans) if you go against her is a tad excessive on top of everything else, but most of the cast are cartoonishly evil. like it's kind of a wonder why the protagonist interacts with anyone at all (or why most of them haven't been arrested by this point), since it's pretty immediately apparent that everyone's certifiably crazy and there's nobody with enough positive features to even like (so far).

edit: again though to clarify: i do quite like this game, and aside from the odd outfit-change-timeloop bug/exploit there isnt much to complain about, and all the appropriate boxes are checked, so if my posts come off as super naggy or nitpicky it's mostly because everything else is super solid.

 

[Smelph]

It's a porn game based heavily on sissification, healthy relationships probably aren't something you're going to find easily (though they will be there eventually).

Good point, this was one of my first experiences with a sissification theme that didnt involve straight up magic, so my expectations may have been a little off-target. Great game though, very tough to put down.

 

[Odin's Eye]

I'll work on the money system in the near future, and maybe implement a delay of sorts during the whole "I need 10k" thing. And uh, remember, it's a VIDYA GAME . Not going for 100% realistic encounters here, because REALISTICALLY, the second Bailey said "I'm keeping the key" you'd just quit that job and take out a massive student loan like everyone else.

I mean this with the greatest of respects considering you've actually created your game and mine is still in the "random note-taking what can I do while I do real-life stuff" stage but... a huge amount of your comebacks to criticism on game mechanics and just how OT some of the treating the MC like a doormat is boiling down to "its a game, deal with it." Not quite so blunt or rude but that's definitely the attitude coming across. And yeah, you're absolutely right. It IS a video game and it IS a game you've made with your own views on the plot and mechanics. But that doesn't stop the criticism from having actual legs.

 

[austinhaney6969]

I mean this with the greatest of respects considering you've actually created your game and mine is still in the "random note-taking what can I do while I do real-life stuff" stage but... a huge amount of your comebacks to criticism on game mechanics and just how OT some of the treating the MC like a doormat is boiling down to "its a game, deal with it." Not quite so blunt or rude but that's definitely the attitude coming across. And yeah, you're absolutely right. It IS a video game and it IS a game you've made with your own views on the plot and mechanics. But that doesn't stop the criticism from having actual legs.

It really does though... Realistically speaking, most sane, hetero boys, which is what the mc is when at the beginning of the game, wouldn't agree to ANY of this shit. Sure Riley is hot and all, but wearing panties to school? That's a no for me dawg. Chastity cage? Hell no. Taking random pills that your unhinged boss gives you at the gym? Hell to the naw, to the naw naw naw.

 

[Master of Puppets]

It really does though... Realistically speaking, most sane, hetero boys, which is what the mc is when at the beginning of the game, wouldn't agree to ANY of this shit. Sure Riley is hot and all, but wearing panties to school? That's a no for me dawg. Chastity cage? Hell no. Taking random pills that your unhinged boss gives you at the gym? Hell to the naw, to the naw naw naw.

Eh, panties are just briefs for women, if she's not asking you to parade yourself in them I don't see that one as all that big a deal, but yeah the rest of it is just crazy. I really like that early bit though, we see that he was a complete slut even before any of the girls got their hands on him, it's hilarious the things he'll do for one of Riley's blowjobs. I wish there was more games like that, where the guy crossdresses and things not because he's forced to, but just because his girlfriend likes it.

While I'm here, can I ask quickly about the different sex options (shemale, female, futa), when would you say is a good point to switch from the default shemale route? I remember in previous versions doing so as soon as it's an option would lead to missing some things being unlocked in the salon and clinic, but the unlocking has been overhauled this last version, with a lot of the options being open really early. Is it OK to go for female or futa as soon as that's unlocked now?

 

[mio008]

anyone want to share the link to 0.6?

 

[Jackyll48]

anyone want to share the link to 0.6?

Yes austinhaney6969 will do that when he feels good and ready for it...

 

[austinhaney6969]

Eh, panties are just briefs for women, if she's not asking you to parade yourself in them I don't see that one as all that big a deal, but yeah the rest of it is just crazy. I really like that early bit though, we see that he was a complete slut even before any of the girls got their hands on him, it's hilarious the things he'll do for one of Riley's blowjobs. I wish there was more games like that, where the guy crossdresses and things not because he's forced to, but just because his girlfriend likes it.

While I'm here, can I ask quickly about the different sex options (shemale, female, futa), when would you say is a good point to switch from the default shemale route? I remember in previous versions doing so as soon as it's an option would lead to missing some things being unlocked in the salon and clinic, but the unlocking has been overhauled this last version, with a lot of the options being open really early. Is it OK to go for female or futa as soon as that's unlocked now?

Sadly, no. I really need to rewrite and rework a lot of that early stuff in order to fit the gender change. As is, you'll notice scenes discussing how you're caged when you're not, and other inconsistencies. Ideally, within a few updates I'll have cleared that stuff from my backlog and have a "true" overhaul done. As is, there's going to be some story issues (I still need to add a way to go down Sasha and Lexi's route without going down Rileys as well).

 

[Master of Puppets]

Can we get like a mini walkthrough that just covers how to unlock the girls or something? I thought that for Lexi you just had to do Riley until you unlocked the modelling job then do that to unlock her but I've been doing the modelling every day for weeks and still no option to visit Lexi.