VN - Ren'Py - The Neverwhere Tales [v0.6.0.2] [Ceolag]

  1. 5.00 star(s)

    DantesX

    I stumbled over this one via a signature in another game I liked. Being currious I game it a try even if the "overview" was a bit cryptic and didnt tell much. Well, in order not to spoil some of the plot the "overview" is as it is to avoid spoilers.
    Anyhow, I really liked the different chars and LI the MC meets and that they are written and designed in a more "realistic" way (as realistic a adult VN can be of course). So in case you like unrealistic big boobs and rediciulous looking females the game wont be something for you but in case you like a well written and acting char then you can definetly go for it. Also the plot and its unfolding is very nice, even if the disclaimer at the beginning tells you about magic and stuff, it is really really well implemented into the game without loosing it or becoming extremly unrealistic. Nice story telling. Something I also like is that it unfolds slwoely and you dont get from one sex scene to the other.....ok some may like this.....but I think its also well placed in the story. So not too much unreal how the girls react (as far as its posisble in a visual noval like this).
    All in all Im looking forward to the next updates which hopefully come soon.
  2. 3.00 star(s)

    Hadron-5

    version Chapter 5

    Story 3/5
    Graphics 5/5
    Writing 2/5
    Characters 2/5
    Audio 3/5
    UI 4/5

    The Neverwhere Tales is a story about what happens when you go to the mythology section of the library, take all the books, throw them all in the cauldron, add a few James Bond novels and the Venus Delta, and set it to boil for an hour.
    The story follows young MCallister, a young customer insurance call center employee that counterintuitively gets all the ladies. He expertly uses his call center skills to doink and bamboozle the sexiest women on the planet.
    Eventually he finds out that he is the son of the Templar Grand Pumpkin or some such, that his sexier-than-Jesus girlfriend is a templar ninja samurai MMA shaolin monk assassin, and that his sister is an annoying cunt. Then he goes back to work as an insurance cuck.
    If you find it difficult to imagine the thought process here, you are not alone. I'm not sure what drives a man to prefer office work in the insurance business over a saucy adventure with bouncing tiddies in every direction, but I suspect the thought process would make Cthulhu recoil in horror. MC does not have his priorities straight, and jumps with equal enthusiasm between saving the world, cheating on his girlfriend, lecturing others on morality, handling customer support for insurance claims, and throwing angsty tween tantrums. As you can imagine, MC is a complicated individual with a faceted personality.

    Story
    The story is standard in creativity and application. Granted, standard on F95 is not great, but around half the VNs here are carried by character development between MC and LIs rather than high quality storyline arcs, and as such only one of those aspects need to be great to make a great VN.
    The story is founded on throwing all the myths and legends together in a modern setting making something elegant and new out of it: templars, elves, the usual elemental magic schools, celtic stuff (presumably), demons/devils, magical realms, magical swords, and pocket dimensions; combined with normal every day stuff like trains, ballet practice, ice cream, insurance claims, and a day at the beach. This works decently as a backdrop but it's not quite sufficient as a main story arc. No aspect of the mythical is prominent enough to ground the world created in rules or expectations, and as a result it doesn't feel immersive. This could be a result of the writing, or it could be because it feels too generic to enthuse interest in the world. When everything can be solved with a deus ex machina, there is no reason to invest in the drama. If the story had more humor, perhaps the journey alone would be enough to enjoy it all, but the story is quite serious in tone. The main story arc does move forward at a nice pace most of the time, and the introduction of two main LIs at odds with each other does set up for a fun and explosive finale (unless MC uses his insurance call center skills for a diplomatic MFF tiddy party at the end).

    Graphics
    The visuals are top notch, and the animations are excellent. While some people do look like they are using a tiktok beautify filter, it's hard to find any real flaws. The animations with Finnabrae, or whatever the blond elf maiden was called, are amazing, and even better than the rest.

    Writing
    This part is the most important aspect of a VN, and it is unfortunately not as good as one might wish. Conversations will either run long with exposition, or feel wooden to the point of reading a mathematical theorem, or both. It's a shame that with the wonderful graphics this VN sports, they aren't used to show the reader what's going on instead of telling the reader what's going on. The audience does not need an instruction manual on how to interpret scenes (and this is actually provided in a few places).
    Every character talks in a similar way - unfortunately it's not like Captain Kirk or Morgan Freeman. The points of interest for every character also converge, which in some areas feel a little silly (the mommy conversation with the sister about swords feels almost disturbing in surreality). The revelations and conclusions drawn from various events are flabbergasting, which while not unique to this VN still comes off weird, and MC jumping all over the place in personality does not help either. All in all, the writing is the weakest point of this VN, and I hope it can improve.

    Characters
    The characters are a bit too similar in personality and presentation for my taste. They will all explain topics in an attempted logical flow of detail, frequently focusing on things that serve little purpose to drive the story forward or develop characters/connections. The sister is probably the most distinct of the bunch, though she is also the most annoying one, and the one designated as the joker. Unfortunately she's too silly for the role. This is a standard flaw of trying to fit a joker into a serious setting but not tempering the character to fit. A silly story needs an absurd joker, a serious story needs a serious/realistic joker. Putting a silly Jessica into a serious setting (the daddy hand off) takes away from immersion and gives the reader the sensation that nothing matters.
    MC is the by now classical schizophrenic, as should be expected of an insurance call center psychopath. He's the horny teenager, the lifelong experience logical teacher, the devoted boyfriend, the oblivious cheater, the experienced Casanova, the moral idealist, the apathic pragmatist, and the oblivious entitled brat. He is enraged that his everything-in-one girlfriend potentially lied (she didn't) to him, but it's fine that he cheats on her. He is outraged at his parents for not telling him certain things yet it's fine when he does the same. On one hand he will get his girlfriend to interject herself into a fight between unknown people because it's the right thing to do, on the other he will magically turn into a confident casanova and blammo into her colleague without even asking if she's on the pill. He spends time watching the sunset with his girlfriend (with lewd handholding), and the next moment he bing bing wahoos in a stranger. He's complicated to say the least.
    If the choices open to the player weren't so discordant with MCs personality it would have worked, but as it is MC behaves like he's taking crazy pills off camera. He turns into a completely different person with none of the moral concerns that would come from such a change. I thought it would help that he for most of the time talks like he's narrating his own life (the autism might explain some things), but unfortunately that part is just as discordant when his entitlement comes out. He is basically Gary Busey on a good day.

    Audio
    The audio is so and so. Several scenes mesh poorly with the music, but most of them give a general sense of what the author wants to convey.

    UI
    Works fine most of the time, and the end of chapter summary is great, but it would be enormously handy if the points gained / lost with the main LIs could be shown whenever choices are made. At the very least I would like to be able to see where I stand with the main LIs whenever I wanted (such as a main LI tab in the options) so I could follow a certain path. This would come in handy during replays.

    Summary
    While graphics are majestic, they are insufficient to remedy the poor writing of this VN. I hope it improves, because graphics this lovely deserve to have an equal match in writing and I wish the devs the best of luck in achieving that.
  3. 5.00 star(s)

    Real Kreten

    The Neverwhere Tales is urban fantasy. Dev has their own world, you are getting to know slice by slice. Although 3th chapter is when you start to learn more of it.
    When Dev had to create own world and decide way for you to learn about it, you can be sure that they is giving a lot of love and hard work to make this experience special. So same love and hard work go into characters building and other things like picture quality or story narrating.

    We all start like Mr. Callister insurance company employee, but your choice will determine what he become in this new world.
    There are several beautiful ladies, four of them LI. You can spend some intimate moments with some of them (it is EA yet), but this game isn't fuckfest, it is storybuilded. If you prefer your time with girls or with your chosen one to have more meanings, than this game build for it and you can jump in and took your own path.
  4. 3.00 star(s)

    doc-jones

    At first, this game was around 4 stars. It lost track of a character I was interested in pursuing in Helena, to focus more on the mythological themes of the game, and your old boss in the real world took a back seat to that. Chapter 5 almost makes me want to rate this game 6 stars if I could. Finnabair is the perfect girl, the whole romance arc you have in one chapter is better than anything I experienced in the game before it, so if the author did what I think he did, I would be furious. Having that sort of visceral reaction to a game in this genre is rare, and I hope it's a bluff for the next episode, as much as I like Medh, Finnabair is the end game for me and I hope the author hears that.

    UPDATE:

    Dude fuck off, I'm mad. Like genuinely mad. You actually killed her and made the mercy option pointless, and therefore the choice didn't matter, she was a better love interest than anyone besides maybe Fiona. Lowering to 3 stars.
  5. 5.00 star(s)

    Morgana Le Fay

    First off, let me just state that male protag AVN are not my preferred type of games but I will play them if the story type interests me. This one piqued my interest with the whole fantasy theme.

    The storyline pulled me in reasonably quickly as I began to question loyalties and intentions from the get go. How much of our pre-existing relationship was actually genuine? who can we really trust? should we be a calm or confrontational character?

    By the time I finished Ch.4 I was way down the rabbithole and loving it! I never even got a blue or red pill though...mean dev!
    The lore is pretty interesting regarding the Elves, Neverwhere, Templars and there was even some Arthurian legends crossover too. I love all that kind of stuff, so it was a bonus for me. I'm here for the story/characters in these AVN, not the lewdies.

    Characters are a very varied bunch and there are 4 main love interests plus other side girls.

    Kaija, who is your girlfriend at the start but can be dumped, may initially come across as untrustworthy due to the early plotline, but I found her to be a complete badass who with zero doubt, cares about the MC deeply and while she is probably the least attractive LI, she has a fantastic toned figure and is very sensual. She also gets one of the best outfits later in the game...when I saw it, I wanted it! I could see myself clubbing in it...:p
    Kaija also seems very unpopular on the forum due to her plot arc but for me, she is my main choice, she would lay her life down for the MC without question.

    Elea is the tall blonde IT nerd who may wear glasses but cannot hide she's easily escaped from the Milan catwalk! if you like blonde nerds with blue eyes and big tits, she will make your memory stick overheat..
    I just didn't take to her character at all, she's also an outsider to all this intrigue while Kaija is deep in the middle of it all, so my MC choosing Templars felt naturally aligned with Kaija.

    Fiona...the mysterious freckly, redhead with an equally mysterious wolfhound who seems to be more than your average doggo...
    Again, Fiona didn't appeal to me, but she certainly is one of the more interesting girls due to her well guarded past and knowing a lot more of the hidden world our MC has fallen into...

    Medb....a favourite on the forums it seems...and I have to admit my initial "Wanna smack this cold bitch on the tit" attitude turned to "Okaaay bitch, you're my 2nd choice now..". An extremely powerful Elven ice mage, she can thaw out (get it?) in later chapters if MC shows genuine empathy to the Elves.

    Regarding empathy for the Elves, I was surprised at the lack of any emotion from the MC when he receives news regarding an Elf he had grown close to. He was just like "Oh well, any customs I should be aware of offending". I felt quite sad at the news :cry:

    My only complaint about the game is trivial: Medb's name. It sounds like she should be in a dj box...right from the start I thought it didn't sound very Elvish but I'm not the dev, sooo *shrugs*. Every time she appears in game I shout out "Medb in the house!" :LOL:

    Visually it's certainly good enough and the renders are definitely above average, so no complaints about that.

    I will mention I'm not a fan of the MC's look, while he does look just like an average guy, his eyes look weird to me? almost bug eyed at times. Nothing too jarring and since I prefer female protags, I get used to playing the less fairer sex anyway...ooh did my claws just come out? :devilish:

    Okay, listen up, because this typing is now feeling long assed, just try the game, okay? you can go back to the sea of incestous, bimbo brained, harem induced clones later...

    I'm going to play the last chapter later and ask Kaija where I can buy her Neverwhere outifit :devilish:
  6. 4.00 star(s)

    1steverogers

    3.5-3.75/5 - Rounded up to 4/5

    Ok, my rating here is down to a few of my personal preferences within games.

    The game itself (story) is very good, i like the real world/fantasy blend and its done well in this game from what i have played so far.

    POSITIVES

    * Story - as mentioned above in my summary, the blend of "real world" and fantasy is done well here and it isnt too wordy, i read most of the dialog without feeling i needed to skip

    * Renders - Renders are classy and original. Lots of unique renders that i havent seen in other games

    * Models - All similar body shaes, however all got different faces and personalites

    NEGATIVES

    * Too many split paths. I dont like having to replay the entire game to get 90% the same story with just different dialogs and i assume animations when they come with different LIs. It just gets boring and if i do want to play to see what another LI's "arc" looks like i will find myself holding the skip button a lot and getting bored.

    * No Harem - Echoing on from the point about split paths. With the amount of different characters , this game would benefit from a "harem path" option or at the very least allow multiple partners to prevent the amount of playthroughs required

    * No Incest - Not a deal breaker this one, however the sister is a very good character in this game so its an oppourtunity lost not having her as a LI

    OVERALL

    An enjoyable game which i will continue with the main LI (as its obvious that going through the story with Katjia looks like will give you the most logical scenes), and i will probably enjoy it.

    However i probably wont go back and play with the other LIs as it will be the same story with slight variations on Lewd scenes so weill be very Dejavu which i dont like. And that is a shame as there are a lot of likeable characters in this game... why no harem path :cry:
  7. 5.00 star(s)

    jranderson3224

    Version Reviewed:
    0.5

    I am not normally into games set in a fantasy setting, but I am definitely into this game. In fairness, this is a urban fantasy where it takes place in the modern day but magic is real, a supernatural realm is real, and those worlds collide with each other. One thing I really like is the skeptical outlook the MC has once he finds out about the supernatural world. He doesn't just become "the chosen one" instantly and immediately insert himself into the supernatural world and act like he's a god amongst men. He is very much an outsider and that is part of his story.

    It's a fantastic game worthy of your time. Ever had your friends tell you about a TV show "if you can make it past the first episode, you'll love it"? Similar thing here. The first chapter isn't bad at all, it's just not that different than any other VN where we meet the MC, see his boring work life, and his day to day. You also start with a forced girlfiend but you can choose to stay/friendzone/leave her shortly after. The first chapter's visuals are a bit rough at times and I was a bit turned off by the some of the character's faces. But by Chapter 2 there is a noticeable leap in visuals and lighting. By chapter 3 the game really picks up and we're deep into the main story and that's where I fell in love with it.

    The game has music, especially in the later chapters. There's a few lewd scenes although mostly with side characters. The main romances are definitely leaning towards the "slow burn" style, but it works well given the scale of the game's story that takes time to develop.
  8. 5.00 star(s)

    Calz

    All I have to say is wow. I never thought much of this novel due to a slow start and mostly of what I thought was a mediocre storyline but things have really picked up and it has managed to hold my attention and keep me interested and invested in the story going forward. I'm glad I gave it another try and am excited for future updates.
  9. 4.00 star(s)

    Deleted member 1838060

    one of the best games out there, was going to give it 5 stars except the ending of chapter 5 made me subtract 1. :cry:

    I have enjoyed the story line and all the characters. Each LI have their uniqueness. And the side characters are hot too. The MC has multiple paths. But was tempted to give it a 1 star because how chapter 5 ended. Was just wrong to introduce a new and exciting character and the kill them off.
    Hopefully next update doesn’t have any bad surprises.
  10. 5.00 star(s)

    SteelyDan14

    When this was first released, I was worried this is a ripoff of Neil Gaiman's Neverwhere (one of my favorite books), and in some ways, the basic concept of Neverwhere is... and that is a city beneath a city. That, however, is where the similarity ends. This is truly a unique fantasy/sci-fi story and it's wonderful.

    If any of you have read any of my other reviews, I am often pretty harsh and rarely give out 5 stars, and to be fair, there are some parts of this AVN I could pick on. Some of the LIs for example, are pretty standard AVN fair. You have to tough LI who can kick anyone's ass and has been keeping secrets from you, the nerdy LI, and the mysterious and foreign LI who is your token AVN ginger. Oh, and let's not forget the perky sister... who at the very least is NOT a LI. Despite that and a number of lighting issues, none of it takes away from this AVN.

    I will admit, if you are just here for the fapping, while the scenes are good, this is a story driven AVN. In fantasy/sci-fi the stories are filled with unfamiliar things, so there is a lot of exposition so the reader can know what is going on. This AVN is pretty heavy on the story, but it is really well written and all the characters have depth and I found myself fully invested.

    I am reviewing this as of the 5.0 update and this last one was just amazing and I can't beleive I am going to have to wait months before the next release. Additionally, it looks like they are prepping this for Steam so it is possible it will be a long while until there is new content. So that sucks. Regardless, this AVN has rocketed up to my #1 spot. Normally, I have a pretty fluid top 10 but this one is so clearly better then most of the AVN crap out there it is going to be hard to knock it off.

    Admittedly, this is an AVN for those folks who want a good story with some hot characters. If you are just here for the fapping and are not into reading a lot of detail, then this one is probably not for you. If you love fantasy/sci-fi and you love and AVN with a good story, come on in... the water is perfect.

    Best of luck to the developer.
  11. 5.00 star(s)

    jonnyd901

    What can I say I've been amazed so far. Story is well written ,graphics,renders,animations have are excellent you can tell this dev takes time and pride in his work. He communicates well keeps everyone in the loop of where the game is at even on here if your not a patreon. But on another note the work he produces doesn't get the reward it deserves so I would suggest if you don't want it to vanish just donate what you can now and again or when the update is released. It would be sad to lose another great game again
  12. 5.00 star(s)

    bASKOU

    Pretty awesome game. Came for the hot girls and stayed for the story.

    We have a pretty good plot, the depth of the LIs is well made and renders are really good, we can see many emotions.

    There is a lot of work on this game, many different paths that have real impact on the discutions and the characters reactions.

    Only dark point, is the MC have a dick face but I can live with it.

    Keep the good work!

    I recommand this AVN to people who like story driven AVN. But if you are only looking for sex and FAP material this it not for you.
  13. 3.00 star(s)

    kameohawk

    An interesting game which seems to struggle with some hangups.

    One of the biggest issues in my mind is the MC, who is a complete melt. His face is a bit rough but really I found how he's written to be a bit wooden. Like at times you're not 100% sure if he knows what's going on. Now... some of that can be explained by the plot of the game. He's having a lot thrown at him and he's having to learn quick but it seems like he's processing it badly. I think there was a scene where some lassie says magic exists and he reacts like a dog being shown a card trick. Like... I can understand him being amazed by it but it seems every time he's told something new his first response is to think they're playing a joke on him. As if everything he's been told before never registered. Thinking magic is made up just after you're told the Templars exist and Elves and Succubus are a thing... dude have you been listening?

    Another issue I have is .... it's hard to know what story the game is trying to convey. Like there's a big deal spent on talking up this world of fantasy that exists which the MC never knew of, while at the same time there are scenes where he goes to bars with co-workers. Genuinely after being attacked, nearly killed, finding out his dad has been abducted, his dad is the big lad in the Templars and his girlfriend is a plant to protect him his next thought is "ho boy better get ready for work" and we then get a few scenes around that. Does the dev really think the player cares about office work when the whole premise of the game has just been introduced? Even with some of the characters introduced you're left wondering what's the point of them. The game would certainly benefit from taking the time to breathe and pad out some of the characters, and sort out the MC especially because I get the impression that the dev is trying to suggest there's more to him than meet the eye, but he comes off as a proper plum.
  14. 3.00 star(s)

    talion777

    It's a mixed bag with this game.

    The pros:

    It's an engaging overall story. Even if it's the damn Templars again (doesn't anyone know of any other church sects?) it's still presented well and has space to develop.

    The so-so's

    The English is good and the dialogue makes sense, but it's frequently wooden and stilted. The art is great for the scenes and meh for the girls. The story renders can seem static as the dialogue unfolds at times, making it seem clunkier than it needs to

    The bad

    The MC is an ugly doofus. He's whiny and has a slight sense of entitlement. The girls have identifiable individual personalities because we're told that they do, but they all sound the same and rather than have organic differences in personality are given different roles so that we'll know they're different, rather than being different people. I'm not expressing this well, but there's an undercurrent of sameness and honestly the women are boring. Most importanly, the dev tells you in the introduction that no matter what path you decide to take you're going to end up in the same place, and that it affects how the story unfolds rather than how it ends. He proves this by offering up largely meaningless choices with largely overlapping storylines, so essentially you can pick a girl to cozy up to but for all intents and purposes the other choices are meaningless, and that's how it feels. That's also a lead up into one of the most annoying things about this game. All you're doing is clicking along, following the story, and "achievements" pop up, for literally doing nothing and for making no decisions. The "achievements" seem utterly meaningless and there only because they're expected to be there, rather than for any actions or decisions from the player. It feels patronizing and silly.

    Overall, this is a timekiller. It's not stupid or irritating as some VNs are, and the writing isn't bad, but nothing about the game excels, not the dialogue, the writing, the humor or the art. I'm less about the sex than the story and personalities but there's not much there either. There's a lot of room for growth and improvement, and the game is ok, but it's not going to be one of the ones that you're jonesing for an update to either.
  15. 4.00 star(s)

    luckyluca01

    its a fine game. story is good sometimes i felt conflicted of what to choose but so far so good. no memorable scenes even though already four chapters., like no adult scenes whatssoever. 4 chapters and nothing, kinda sucks. story is interesting tough and the women are hot. cant wait for update
  16. 5.00 star(s)

    Jaango

    Definitely a top tier game. Top notch renders and nice story. Nice girls with personalities. But not a harem game. Jessica is funny but since there is no incest sadly she isn't a LI of MC. All other LI's got their own charming personalities. Even with the high ratings this one is still underrated, surely deserves more recognition.

    If you love playing good story game with nice renders this one is worth trying. Keep up the good work dev looking forward to next updates
  17. 5.00 star(s)

    Grumpy Old Aussie

    Some times you wade through a lot of porn junk on this forum to find a good VN. Occasionally, you find a title worth reading because it has a great adult story. Even more rare is discovering a VN that jumps out and grabs you. This is one of those VNs.

    Story 5/5
    A little fanciful in places but I don't care, the story is engaging and draws you in. The characters are intriguing and you just want to know more and more about them. You can go through this game loving everyone or being angry and inbetween. There is no real antagonist yet (as of ch4), just people with their own agenda and that causes plenty of drama within itself. This has joined my handful of very special VNs.

    Art work 4.5/5
    No complaints.

    Choices 5/5
    This VN is refreshing and not only is it a fantastic story, the choices are what drives this VN in to my handful of elite VNs. All too often the choices in VNs give you the illusion of choice, but in this VN you get real choices and ramifications for those choices. The most obvious example is Kaija, you can love her, hate her or be indifferent and Kaija will respond to you in kind and the story reflects that choice throughout. Well done dev.
  18. 5.00 star(s)

    amandressedlikeabat

    It's early, but it's off to an excellent start. I really don't have much to complain about, aside from the lack of a scene replay gallery, which means I don't have much to say. The girls are interesting, and varied, and good looking (although I wish Kaija didn't have tattoos). This could go a lot of different ways, in plot and in quality, but I have a solid expectation that this will remain excellent.
  19. 5.00 star(s)

    Ash1111

    The story got me hooked in. Its a blend of medieval fantasy and bladerunner experience. The renders are great and the animation are well done. The character models are beautiful and the overall art is great. If you are looking for fap scenes there are not many since the relationships are just developing but overall its very enjoyable experiance. Looking forward for more.
  20. 3.00 star(s)

    Liv08

    As negative points I would say:

    I don't like the way some decisions work. Sometimes you have to be a dick with other guys to gain points with the girls.

    Also, sometimes the decisions don't make sense, like an spank to your gf that can change her whole personality in the game, or decisions where there is no way the girls would know what did you do.

    Other bad thing for me is the big number of scenes where we should see something, but instead we get a wall of explanations and descritions before hand. It's better to show it first instead of ruining the surprise!

    Talking about seeing something, some scenes are dark asf, even so there are light sources. So the scenery can't be enjoyed. I hope MC gets night vision gadgets..

    And finally I'm worried about the lack of spicy content, there are just a couple of scenes. You can flirt and check the girls, kiss them and make promises like getting ready for marriage, but their legs are still closed for us.


    Leaving the negative aside, I'm enjoying the story, the renders and the multiple references. The girls are interesting too, so I wanna see how everything turn out in this VN!