Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.7b] [Ron Chon]

[ShinyBoots1993]

Let's compare this game to "superhuman"

Let's not.

Nah when I asked on discord I was told it is not planned. Maybe talk to your discord guys then.

As Maddening said, no one on the team said no to it. Don't automatically trust people who don't have the dev tag when it comes to confirmed features or lack there of.

Might be? There is no consensus on that? What design documents says?

It's not on the design document.

Though if showering in one place eats a stamina but showering in another place doesn't, that sounds like an oversight.

I've brought it to the attention of the dev team.

I hope future updates include more ways for the girls to hang out with each other.

They will. We have plenty of fun things coming down the pipeline. Some of which can be between Null and Kurt.

It is compressed for the game, but in the world it is actually a fairly long time.

We're gonna try and make this more obvious without forcing players to do more required things.

Once the sandbox gets more active I'm sure it'll flow better.

Bro, this game is more of a trainer with a bit of story, while Superhuman is a full blown out visual novel, can't compare the two, different genres.

For the love of god do not mention trainer. We already have enough disagreements with staff over this NOT being a trainer game.

I need to see this list.

I'll ask if I can share it.

You can ask a girl to be your girlfriend at the end of the first segment and you can ask all three girls without any warning. However this just causes them to get mad at you at the start of the second segment.

Yeah that's definitely an oversight.

The main issue is you can't unlock polyamory until the 3rd segment

I'm gonna talk to the devs about the polyamory cap...

Also please add friendship numbers in the UI somewhere.

It's in the works.

There seems to be something screwy going on with the friendship system. Started dating rogue, said she needed to be friends before she is ok with me dating anyone else, so I increase her friendship with Laura and Jean and then asked her if i could date them and she said she's ok with it. But then once i got back from a date a with Laura, Rogue got upset and was mad for a couple of days, plus a I lost a bunch of trust. Now whenever I ask her what she thinks of Laura, she acts like they aren't good friends.

That... sounds like some numbers aren't being calculated correctly. I'll pass this on.

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I... didn't realize I ended up dating Laura's twin behind her back.

Traceback:
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Yeah this isn't supposed to happen.

Any chance we might see some girl-on-top poses in a future update?

It's in the works.

 

[Buttholder]

To be fair, Laura Bailey has been in a lot of things these days, so it's only natural for Laura to be jealous of Laura, especially if you're familiar with Persona 4, Catherine and Street Fighter.

Bloodrayne! Come on!

 

[Deleted member 4483079]

any reason why we have the multiply/screen sliders instead of a simple color picker? Would be so much nicer for outfits

 

[ronchonbon]

any reason why we have the multiply/screen sliders instead of a simple color picker? Would be so much nicer for outfits

The main reason is that multiply/screen is how color changing works in Live2D, and since all of our displayables go through Live2D now, we're kind of tied to that system

In case your question is why not make all of the clothes greyscale, color changing can only go so far, especially with detailed shading. We would lose a lot of the nice default coloring that I think makes the default clothes look "real." The color changing system we've implemented is the best I've been able to come up with, but it can only do so much

 

[cloakersenpai]

Waiting for updates. Its good

 

[ronchonbon]

There seems to be something screwy going on with the friendship system. Started dating rogue, said she needed to be friends before she is ok with me dating anyone else, so I increase her friendship with Laura and Jean and then asked her if i could date them and she said she's ok with it. But then once i got back from a date a with Laura, Rogue got upset and was mad for a couple of days, plus a I lost a bunch of trust. Now whenever I ask her what she thinks of Laura, she acts like they aren't good friends.

I also had an issue with the new system: somehow Jean got angry I was dating jean withoug asking her. I got the error window, then this appears after clikcing ignore:
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Here's the traceback: View attachment 3508375

Could I get saves from either of you? Can look into it closer.

 

[BRoss5]

Found some console command to make the grind more bearable (hopefully the dev won't change the code on each update )

Command:
(replace Rogue with Laura or Jean)
Rogue.love=9000
Rogue.trust=9000
I've added 9000 but the quest will lock you at a certain number until you finish each quests, which will reward you with a higher cap

Rogue.pubes='none'
(replace none with bush, growing, hairy, null, shaven, strip or triangle)
Rogue.piercings["nipple"] ="ring"
replace "ring" with "False" or "barbell"
replace "nipple" with "labia" or "belly"

Player.cash=99999
Player.XP=999
Player.level=10 just increasing the level throught cheats doesn't give any [extra points]
Player.ability_points+=10
Player.stamina=4
Player.max_stamina=4

Rogue.throat_training=5
I've added 5 as to not encounter noclip issue
Rogue.oral_training=20
Rogue.stamina=5
Rogue.max_stamina=5

Spoiler: WIP

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oh and message to the dev. Please consider these features

• re-enable the function to skip text , simply holding ctrl or tab should work like it does with all renpy games
• reduce the time it takes when navigating the cellphone
• reduce the amount of white colors in backgrounds. Too many dark-coloured rooms and characters in contrast with brightly-coloured background are hurting my eyes

I know through testing that it is desire if you want them to have an orgasm in the middle of interactions with one but haven't figured out what it might be for getting them to have sex. How I figured it out was the site "saveeditoronline.com". Maybe you could find out but the only way is the console commands as trying to rewrite your save gives a message of modified save.

 

[ＧＡＢ]

thanks, I'll update my post. I also use that site often when tampering with console commands I can't figure out

as trying to rewrite your save gives a message of modified save.

I know renpy makes a copy of saves in the %appdata% folder (so if you delete an older version it keeps a copy of the save when you start the updated version) but the devs added a measure (warning text) to check if the saves in appdata are the same in the game folder as a security policy to reduce save manipulation (which is the contrary of my suggestion, to make the grind more bearable, rude tbh)

if it's more than that and the game simply blocks you from playing, maybe you can paste the modified save in both places so the game will let you continue with it

 

[bwazoo92]

This is fantastic, thanks to all of you.

 

[DrFree]

Could I get saves from either of you? Can look into it closer.

That should be the one, right in the shower with Laura. I think by talking to her or something it triggers Jean coming in and dragging MC to her room, lol.

 

[LawlessHijinks]

Yeah new cheating system is working great, rogue runs into my room saying "YOURE DATING LAURA???" when she already knew that and got mad

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

I know through testing that it is desire if you want them to have an orgasm in the middle of interactions with one but haven't figured out what it might be for getting them to have sex. How I figured it out was the site "saveeditoronline.com". Maybe you could find out but the only way is the console commands as trying to rewrite your save gives a message of modified save.

Just noting for everyone, not specifying you, that we cannot assist anyone with bugs or issues if you've used any of the cheat mods or have edited your save.

Yeah new cheating system is working great, rogue runs into my room saying "YOURE DATING LAURA???" when she already knew that and got mad

Sadly there was no reasonable way for us to detect relationship levels between girls when the system wasn't there.

They'll cool off, go hang at the pool, ask again, and it's all gucci.

 

[wiseold6996]

Just noting for everyone, not specifying you, that we cannot assist anyone with bugs or issues if you've used any of the cheat mods or have edited your save.


Sadly there was no reasonable way for us to detect relationship levels between girls when the system wasn't there.

They'll cool off, go hang at the pool, ask again, and it's all gucci.

How to increase the friendship between the girls?

 

[apyrvalg]

Though if showering in one place eats a stamina but showering in another place doesn't, that sounds like an oversight.

Same places, different time slots.

 

[Dazzier31]

Same places, different time slots.

Out of curiosity, and I'm sorry if you have answered this before and I missed it, do you mean about how taking a shower in the morning or night does not consume stamina? If so, I believe that's working as intended, or at least has been like this since the first beta.

 

[drifter139]

How to increase the friendship between the girls?

go to the pool and invite whichever girls you'd like to build friendship. it will take a few times but it works

 

[apyrvalg]

Out of curiosity, and I'm sorry if you have answered this before and I missed it, do you mean about how taking a shower in the morning or night does not consume stamina? If so, I believe that's working as intended, or at least has been like this since the first beta.

And I have been asking that since then I am annoyed by that inconsistency in stamina cost. You believe that's working as intended, Shoes believes that's an oversight and should be fixed - as he told me before, couple of months ago - a simple question turns into detective mystery?

 

[ARB582]

Could I get saves from either of you? Can look into it closer.

Save 13 is oldest save i have where Rogue is still pissed at me, I don't have one for just before or after she got pissed.
Save 7 is where she is no longer pissed but whenever i ask her about Laura she is not very nice about to her though earlier she was quite happy to be her friend. Her thoughts Jean seem to be how they should be though that isn't affected.

 

[hopefullynew]

Anyone else having issues with the room keys? Rogue and Jean gave me theirs, Laura didn't yet. I had the option to use them for a short while, but now it went away and the keys are not in my inventory at all. I can't just enter the girls' rooms either, I have to always knock. Not a big deal but it might be a bug.


I'll mention this to the dev team. Can you provide a save for us to look at?

I did use a cheat to reduce grind, but nothing that should make items disappear completely.

 

[kiberkiller]

Neat game but man, going from the pretty unique sandbox format of Rogue-Like, to the generic linear format of every other porn game is an extreme copout.