Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.7b] [Ron Chon]

[Shadesishere]

Logan hosting poker night has been a frequently requested feature to the point that we had someone code a poker mini-game to fit in renpy.

One of our writers really wants to have Null dragged to The Thing's

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Strip Poker! STRIP POKER!

also, normal Poker, love a game of texas hold em.
(Seriously, this has TOO much potential to let go, friendly games, strip games, characters having lore/personal/4thwall comments as they play, increases to love/trust, improve (or worsen) friendship between chars, can also have an impact on popularity ranking...)

 

[Casted420]

Strip Poker! STRIP POKER!

also, normal Poker, love a game of texas hold em.
(Seriously, this has TOO much potential to let go, friendly games, strip games, characters having lore/personal/4thwall comments as they play, increases to love/trust, improve (or worsen) friendship between chars, can also have an impact on popularity ranking...)

Strip Poker with the boys?
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Why not?

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[Dhoven]

What wrong with pubic hair? When i choose bush, or anything else "hairy" variant, girl imediatly gonna shaved. This is a bug, or what? And after few days nothing changes

 

[sleepingkirby]

The police?

Well, to be fair, where was the police during mutant hate crimes or juggernaut's attack or the sentinel attack? If they're not gonna show up for mutants getting killed, they're not gonna show up for 2 mutants fucking each other on college grounds.

Also, college campus. The police don't usually get involved unless the campus police (who are not real police) calls them. And the police don't usually get involved in things like public indecency unless they see it right in front of them and/or there's lot of complaints and photo evidence. How crimes/law infractions like these on real college campuses are handled is kinda fucked up. Like that might be the most realistic part of all.

Also RLE acknowledges Scott, Nightcrawler, and Wolverine being teachers and Zero isn't fucking them.(Unfortunately)

That's a good point. I'm still of the belief that even if the other students report it (which, again, they're right there cheering Zero on), Prof. X won't do anything. Also, RLE Prof X does seem like the type of person that would just roll his eyes at Scott whining and "whammy" Scott in making sure he doesn't perceive Zero fucking Jean in front of him. Like, the dude is keeping nudes of college girls and fucking Mystique on the down-low (and keeping pictures of it).

No that's something he did in the comics.

My god, I forgot he did that. Here's the actual dialogue in RLE:

                ch_x "Emma, you are entrusted as a teacher here, I can't have you fraternizing with the students."
                ch_x "This is especially true in the school's public spaces!"
                ch_x "What sort of message does that send?"
                ch_x "How appropriate would it be if I were to just wander the halls with Miss Grey on my lap?"
                call XavierFace("hypno")
                ch_x "Just. . . running my hands along her firm little body without a care in the world. . ."
                call XavierFace("happy")
                if JeanX.Loc == bg_current:
                        "You glance over at [JeanX.Name], she shrugs."
                ch_x ". . ."
                call XavierFace("shocked")
                ch_x "Yes, well, as I was saying! . ."

Like Prof. X here is more like the dean cursing a frat house for causing antics in an 80's movie than a real dean of a school.

 

[Crel]

Yeah this is where we have to drop all possibility of suspension of disbelief. The most that would happen is some girls may want to date each other within the group. Which Null can discourage.

While I've been harping on about realism and stuff, this is a game and SOME concessions need to be made but as mentioned in earlier comments, there are some scenarios we just rather not brush aside.

I'm really glad you included this, because the previous couple pages were becoming concerning. I know it's basically just shooting the shit on a forum page and probably completely inconsequential, but a hard overemphasis on realism over gameplay and (re)playability is worrisome if it influences the game design too much.

IDC about having orgies in the hall or anything like that, but I doubt I'm alone in thinking that the harem mechanics are a necessary sacrifice of realism for the sake of gameplay. I don't *think* most people are gonna be interested in running the same repetitive sandbox a bunch of times over with a single girl/relationship per run.

As for the overly-prudish shame system, as long as that's moddable the default values are more suggestion than anything.

 

[sleepingkirby]

there should only be one source of truth for each relationship rather than each character having a view on some other character (because making A view B as "friends" but the reverse being "rival" is possible in real life, but would make for a far too complex AVN to script)

It's not hard/complex and it's exactly how it's coded. For example, Rogue.friendship on my game looks like this:
{'Laura': 118, 'Charles': 0, 'Kurt': 0, 'Jean': 92}

And Laura's look like this:
{'Rogue': 68, 'Charles': 0, 'Kurt': 0, 'Jean': 86}

Notice how Laura's relationship score with Rogue is lower than Rogue's relationship with Laura. (68 vs 118).

Rival is just when that number is below zero (for the time being and for Jean and/or Rogue. That may change as new characters are introduced). So basically, just keep working on that relationship until it goes into the positive (or cheat).

 

[Elpescador]

I just cannot figure out the clothing system, can someone post a primer or walkthrough on how to actually save/ get a girl to wear an outfit?

 

[NemoNihil]

I just cannot figure out the clothing system, can someone post a primer or walkthrough on how to actually save/ get a girl to wear an outfit?

I found that I had to disable their default outfits, otherwise they’d never wear the custom ones I made

 

[drifter139]

I just cannot figure out the clothing system, can someone post a primer or walkthrough on how to actually save/ get a girl to wear an outfit?

please note this is a leaked beta of the update and some bugs are bound to pop up. I advise waiting until the official release of 0.6a before going in

 

[TangerineTango]

anyone know how to open the console commands

 

[Zone Peterson]

Christ, just went thru like 4-5 pages of "already established" topic on the game. Exhausted my head. Shiny handle it pretty well.

 

[MiltonPowers]

anyone know how to open the console commands

SHIFT-O (the letter not the number)
If it's blocked and won't open.
You can drop this in your 'Game' Folder.
Reopen the game.
Use SHIFT-O

 

[FacelessVixen]

please note this is a leaked beta

One of which is still influx. As of the time of this post: The latest version is now 0.6beta44, the links in the OP are for 0.6beta38, and whoever made the edits "conveniently" got rid of the links for the last stable build: 0.5b. I could have sworn that someone on the dev team said to not replace the links in the OP from the last stable build to the 0.6 betas, but dudes seem to be hard-headed and don't wanna listen.

 

[leathermax]

By the way, I found this video yesterday and it reminded me of the talk about no exhibitionism in the game because someone could report you.

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I've never seen something so over the top. Not that I'm trying to convince anyone that exhibitionism should be included in the game, but it kinda felt like a deja vu type thing.

 

[salscou]

By the way, I found this video yesterday and it reminded me of the talk about no exhibitionism in the game because someone could report you.

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I've never seen something so over the top. Not that I'm trying to convince anyone that exhibitionism should be included in the game, but it kinda felt like a deja vu type thing.

In all honesty it would be a big deal in the institute because there are kids running around, like for example, a chick caught naked at 3am outside of a Denny's? at worst the police will just make sure you arent drunk and telling you to stop causing a spectacle .
But do the same near a school or children's park at 2pm? oh boy there you are in trouble.

 

[Lexfoxy]

just wondering is there a way for girls to keep cloths, like stocking, on during hookups?

 

[Bentsay]

Really wish you could adjust the text and transition speed tbh.

 

[MaxRichard]

It's not hard/complex and it's exactly how it's coded. For example, Rogue.friendship on my game looks like this:
{'Laura': 118, 'Charles': 0, 'Kurt': 0, 'Jean': 92}

And Laura's look like this:
{'Rogue': 68, 'Charles': 0, 'Kurt': 0, 'Jean': 86}

Notice how Laura's relationship score with Rogue is lower than Rogue's relationship with Laura. (68 vs 118).

Rival is just when that number is below zero (for the time being and for Jean and/or Rogue. That may change as new characters are introduced). So basically, just keep working on that relationship until it goes into the positive (or cheat).

But then relevant branch will need to check each relationship both ways, which tends to result in inconsistencies unless you actively code against it. I'm not saying it necessarily creates inconsistencies here as I haven't played through every single scene, but it does make it more complex than just modeling each relationship instead of each character

 

[sleepingkirby]

But then relevant branch will need to check each relationship both ways, which tends to result in inconsistencies unless you actively code against it. I'm not saying it necessarily creates inconsistencies here as I haven't played through every single scene, but it does make it more complex than just modeling each relationship instead of each character

What? What are you talking about? I'm saying that for this post, he just has to keep fostering friendship between the 2 characters. Because anything below 0 is marked as "rival". Whether that number is -1 or -999 so it might take a while. There's no inconsistency check both ways or duplicate/redundant values or anything that's causing the rival status.

Like here's the code (version 0.53b):
./scripts/interface/Player_menu.rpy:1919

        viewport id "relationships_friendship_viewport" anchor (0.0, 0.5) pos (0.515, 0.595) xysize (0.385, int(195*game_resolution)):
           <snip viewport properties>
            hbox:
                spacing 20

                for C in eval(f"{current_relationships_Entry.tag}_friendship_thresholds.keys()"):
                    if C != current_relationships_Entry.tag and eval(C) in active_Companions:
                        $ friendship = eval(f"current_relationships_Entry.get_friendship({C})")

                        fixed xysize (int(135*game_resolution), int(195*game_resolution)):
                            add f"images/interface/photos/{C}.webp" align (0.5, 0.5) zoom 0.13
                            add f"images/interface/Player_menu/relationships_{friendship}.webp" align (0.5, 0.5) zoom interface_adjustment

Where current_relationships_Entry is set to a single character via a button here:
./scripts/interface/Player_menu.rpy:1758

                button xysize (int(911*game_resolution), int(191*game_resolution)):
                   <snip button properties>
                    action SetVariable("current_relationships_Entry", C)

As you can see, it's a simple for-loop that iterates through the keys of a single character's friendship object. There's no reverse checks for friendship counts in the rival calculation. In fact, the rival status isn't even a straight evaluation, but rather a threshold check to return a string that just gets concatenated into what color it shows on the game's GUI.

Or, to put it simply:
current_relationships_Entry ==> current character whose info is being viewed
friendship ==> variable to hold string of a number, ranging from -2 to 3 (depending on characters and thresholds)

which means that this line:
add f"images/interface/Player_menu/relationships_{friendship}.webp"

Will display one of the following images:
images/interface/Player_menu/relationships_3.webp
images/interface/Player_menu/relationships_2.webp
images/interface/Player_menu/relationships_1.webp
images/interface/Player_menu/relationships_0.webp
images/interface/Player_menu/relationships_-1.webp
images/interface/Player_menu/relationships_-2.webp

Which you will find are borders with colors that correspond to a characters relationship status/threshold to another character. A. Single. Linear. Evaluation. No inconsistencies, no duplicate states. Just a single instance for one character and how they feel about another.


That's part of what makes this code so much better to mod/maintain. The evaluations are straightforward and simple. As Jamie Hynemann of Mythbusters said:
"Whenever you run into an overly complicated design, that's a sign of an inferior engineer. Simpler is always better."


Like, I had to understand this code to know how to inject my cheats and my cheat allows you to turn off rival status. I know how it works.

 

[cannavaro99]

how far away is laura full deepthroat animation? really want to see her go down all the way :=)