Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.7b] [Ron Chon]

[SeveralGeese]

I'm a bit confused. Had the relationship upgrade with Rogue to Girlfriend.

Told her we'd be Poly. She was cool with it. Even specifically mentioned X-23 because of the event where we sent her to ask Rogue about relationships.

I just went on a date with X-23 and the next morning Rogue is all upset with me for "not telling her". WTF did I miss here?

There cant be any ambiguity, you gotta specifically tell her "hey I want to date laura/jean, are you cool with that?"
It becomes an option after you get her to agree to a poly relationship (on the condition that you tell her who beforehand, and she's on friendly terms with them)

I have also made this mistake a couple times.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

Will Rogue be more assertive if I discourage her submission?

Yes.

Will new quirks replace whichever ones I discourage?

It's more of an on or off switch in most cases.

Without spoilers, Dazzler's is probably the most complex as depending on which era of Dazzler is your favorite will determine what is "normal" for the character.

We used to get complaints about "less content" but then a dozen or so people came in and said something like "Their quirk ain't my kink." and "I don't notice less interactions just different ones."

As others have said we want the "normal" experience to be an option as to my knowledge we're the only X-Men, and likely Marvel, game that has the option of actually interacting with characters similar to the source material and not porn parody logic.

Though we did switch things up a bit in that the Sexual Revolution of the 60s/70s never ended.

While you got prudes and conservatives still existing on Earth-69, most people are likely to talk more about sex and non-monogynous relationships.

As our head writer had to come out and defend the last time I mentioned this. This doesn't mean the girls are gonna act slutty for no reason. They're just more open minded.

You're gonna encounter girls who are staunchly against open or poly relationships in future chapters but you'll be able to have a conversation with them about it and change their viewpoint in a realistic manner.

You have your cake and eat it too, it's just less porn parody logic.

Shouldn't we be allowed to have sex in the character's bathrooms? They're not public areas, right?

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On the to do list. One of the things on my wishlist for the budget is individualized bathrooms for the girls.

I imagine Rogue has a waterproof radio and maybe a poster.

Jean's would be filled with a dozen bottles of skincare routines.

Laura's would have claw marks all over since a shower is a quiet moment to get aggression out.

From my experiences, Rogue is a real big fan of her bottom getting attention.

Then again, from my experiences Jean gets bored of you playing with her boobs real fast, so I'm curious about Shinyboots' claim.

Laura loves getting her nipples pinched.

Working as intended.

 

[TheCrimsonRevenger]

Also, I noticed in the bathroom mirror I can change all my cosmetics except skin color. Is there a way to change that too?

I was aiming for kind of a "Middling Tan/Ambiguously Brown" during character creation and apparently ended up with Demonic Red.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

I'm a bit confused. Had the relationship upgrade with Rogue to Girlfriend.

Told her we'd be Poly. She was cool with it. Even specifically mentioned X-23 because of the event where we sent her to ask Rogue about relationships.

I just went on a date with X-23 and the next morning Rogue is all upset with me for "not telling her". WTF did I miss here?

There cant be any ambiguity, you gotta specifically tell her "hey I want to date laura/jean, are you cool with that?"
It becomes an option after you get her to agree to a poly relationship (on the condition that you tell her who beforehand, and she's on friendly terms with them)

I have also made this mistake a couple times.

People frequently seem to get hyper and assume that they've just been given a hallpass.

That might be something that may be an option in the future but if you read what the girls say, which half of the "bugs" in the game are just people not actually listening to the girls or Kurt, you'll be able to see what's actually expected from you.

 

[FacelessVixen]

Okay, real answer - it's most likely the allocation of assets. There's only a couple of artists working on the game and the set up for shower sex assets are probably low on the list compared to new characters, locations and so on.

I'm not one of the devs, so I don't have any sort of say in this, but if there is going to be some bathroom sex assets, it's going to be either when they get a lot more money to bring in more artists or added in one of the later chapters when the greater priority items have been done.

If the team wants to go the extra mile, sure. But I think that most people would settle for taking the backgrounds for the locker room and the dorm showers, gaussian blurring them to the same percentage as the bedrooms, and letting our brains/imaginations fill in the blanks.

I'm a bit confused. Had the relationship upgrade with Rogue to Girlfriend.

Told her we'd be Poly. She was cool with it. Even specifically mentioned X-23 because of the event where we sent her to ask Rogue about relationships.

I just went on a date with X-23 and the next morning Rogue is all upset with me for "not telling her". WTF did I miss here?

The real Consent Simulator™ still lives!

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

Also, I noticed in the bathroom mirror I can change all my cosmetics except skin color. Is there a way to change that too?

I was aiming for kind of a "Middling Tan/Ambiguously Brown" during character creation and apparently ended up with Demonic Red.

I thought skin color was changeable in the mirror...

Middling Tan will be added later when we get back to upgrading character customization. We're putting it off until we start working on CGs that show Null more prominently, such as date sex.

Which is also the reason why girls go to dates with specific outfits. Budgetary limitations.

 

[SeveralGeese]

I thought skin color was changeable in the mirror...

you need to unlock the Minor Shapeshifting mutant power in order to do that.

People frequently seem to get hyper and assume that they've just been given a hallpass.

I think the only tricky area for me is the Laura/Rogue area; since Rogue is so involved with helping laura to unpack her feelings about you, among other things, and gives you some of the play by play. So it can be slightly confusing when Rogue goes "Hey, so I think Laura seriously likes you." then goes "Okay, I'm on board with you dating other people." but still hasn't made the connection between the two thoughts. Not necessarily the game's fault entirely, but certainly an area of potential miscommunication.

Personally, I'd really like if it were possible for Rogue to pitch the idea of you dating Laura to you, if the right kind of conditions are met. Well, I'd like that for everyone, but those two especially.

 

[TheCrimsonRevenger]

I thought skin color was changeable in the mirror...

i'll double check skin cusotmization again. Maybe i glossed over it.

People frequently seem to get hyper and assume that they've just been given a hallpass.

I mean, we quite literally discussed X-23 by name. I dunno how much clearer it could have been. I would have understood that reaction for Jean. But I DID find the option to more explicitly ask

 

[Chrisdarock19]

are you part of the development team?
if so, you should get a developer badge

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[shadowtempered]

Dude if you consider what's in our game "grinding" after the several stat squashes, earnable stat gain bonuses, events that GIFT you progress... then I don't know what to tell you my man.

I'm assuming we're not expected to have all talents/perks finished by the end of the first year, but do the devs have a general number in mind to what they expect players to have? Sitting around classrooms for days on end to get exp to unlock talents may not be crazy grinding, but it's still grinding. If it's expected to only have 3-4, then I guess it makes more sense.

 

[SeveralGeese]

I'm assuming we're not expected to have all talents/perks finished by the end of the first year, but do the devs have a general number in mind to what they expect players to have? Sitting around classrooms for days on end to get exp to unlock talents may not be crazy grinding, but it's still grinding. If it's expected to only have 3-4, then I guess it makes more sense.

I believe there used to be a level cap of 5, based on the Q and A on their discord, though that's not the case anymore.
I'm at level 8 personally, but that's mostly because I was cramming hard in order to beat Jean in the intellectual leaderboards (there's no scene of her reacting to it or anything, which makes me sad)

I think you're only expected to get one level of the mutant stamina (so 2 actions per time unit), though I totally recommend either getting another one or at least a couple of the ap boosting default perks; early bird and night owl, or w/e.

 

[Disambiguation]

Notably as a rule women with smaller chests tend to be more sensitive in that area.

Show me a peer-reviewed study on that

 

[Evil13]

Show me a peer-reviewed study on that

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Normal cutaneous sensibility of the breast

 

[SeveralGeese]

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Normal cutaneous sensibility of the breast

Makes sense to me. If we assume all breasts have roughly the same number of nerve endings, then bigger ones would have to have fewer nerve endings per square inch of boobage, since there's so much more space to cover.
Huh, by that logic, skinnier people must have more sensitive skin than people with more bodyfat?

To test this, I will need some brave volunteers to see if Jean is ticklish, and some very stupid volunteers to see if Laura is.

 

[DarkLurker12]

Still keeping Jean firmly in the friendzone. Like girl, I understand a friendship. I got yer back in a fight and will help with things time to time. But I'm not propping up your self confidence by dating you. I cannot relate to being so successful that you have to be taught how to have a hobby.

LMAO!!!

No idea how long I've been waiting for this take.

The community we've grown is heavily populated by yandere lovers lol

Honestly Jean is always the one who's quircks I don't trigger and the one I had dated the least in my playtroughts for this exact reason. It's not mentally healthy at this early in her character development. But it's my love of exploring the psyche of these character's that draws me to the yandere playthrough.

I think the only tricky area for me is the Laura/Rogue area; since Rogue is so involved with helping laura to unpack her feelings about you, among other things, and gives you some of the play by play. So it can be slightly confusing when Rogue goes "Hey, so I think Laura seriously likes you." then goes "Okay, I'm on board with you dating other people." but still hasn't made the connection between the two thoughts. Not necessarily the game's fault entirely, but certainly an area of potential miscommunication.

Personally, I'd really like if it were possible for Rogue to pitch the idea of you dating Laura to you, if the right kind of conditions are met. Well, I'd like that for everyone, but those two especially.

Could also use an option to have the new girl you're agreeing to date run it past your current girl(s) for aproval. Might cost you some points, but atleast you don't get her (too) mad at you for cheating or cost the girls (too much of) their freindship.

 

[salscou]

and some very stupid volunteers to see if Laura is.

In the comics Angel discovered that she likes headpats.

 

[Mtgwo]

Once chapter 1 is done we will move on to other girls or we will keep getting content for these 3? Do you guys have a plan on when to finish the content for the first trio? This question is probably made a lot, but i dont usually check the thread that often, sorry lol

 

[SeveralGeese]

Once chapter 1 is done we will move on to other girls or we will keep getting content for these 3? Do you guys have a plan on when to finish the content for the first trio? This question is probably made a lot, but i dont usually check the thread that often, sorry lol

I think it's safe to assume they'll have more seasonal scenes. All of them have a lot more character development to go through, both old canon and new writing. Like, Rogue hasn't even fully opened up to Null yet about her past, even with maximum trust and love. Their roads aint over c:

 

[Buttholder]

Once chapter 1 is done we will move on to other girls or we will keep getting content for these 3? Do you guys have a plan on when to finish the content for the first trio? This question is probably made a lot, but i dont usually check the thread that often, sorry lol

The goal is to keep producing new stuff for older characters - scenes, outfits, dialogue, etc. Not to throw any shade on other games, but there's a tendency with games like this to lavish new characters with all the love and attention, while the older characters get forgotten and ignored, and when another new character appears, the cycle repeats itself again and again. The first few updates in every chapter will more than likely be for the new characters, establishing them, adding things for them, etc. but after that, we'll start integrating the older characters with them, then add new scenes for everyone and so on.

As I've said in the past, we've gotten to this point and, if you've been paying attention, there's a lot of plot threads that we've only just started laying down, and if you're familiar with the comics, you know things are about to get pretty damn Dark, pretty damn quick. We're not about to ditch everyone's favourites just because the new hotness is in town.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

Personally, I'd really like if it were possible for Rogue to pitch the idea of you dating Laura to you, if the right kind of conditions are met. Well, I'd like that for everyone, but those two especially.

This has been discussed. Can't confirm if it's going to be for these two specifically but can confirm we already have designs for girls asking Null to welcome another girl into the poly.

Considering how linked the two are I can see it getting in the game but again, this isn't confirmation.

I mean, we quite literally discussed X-23 by name. I dunno how much clearer it could have been. I would have understood that reaction for Jean. But I DID find the option to more explicitly ask

Maybe that extra step is what is throwing people for a loop.

I'm assuming we're not expected to have all talents/perks finished by the end of the first year, but do the devs have a general number in mind to what they expect players to have? Sitting around classrooms for days on end to get exp to unlock talents may not be crazy grinding, but it's still grinding. If it's expected to only have 3-4, then I guess it makes more sense.

There will be more events that give XP and reminder that this is only 1 chapter out of 6. We just released version 0.7. Plenty of time until 1.0

(there's no scene of her reacting to it or anything, which makes me sad)

There will be.

Show me a peer-reviewed study on that

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Normal cutaneous sensibility of the breast

I just graduated for clinical psychology. I know not to talk out my ass if I'm making a statistical claim.

It's not mentally healthy at this early in her character development.

Congratulations, your long term thinking skills surpass the majority of players lol.

Quirks aren't meant to be the healthiest outlet by design. The journey to mental wellness will be different depending on whether a quirk is activated or not.

Once chapter 1 is done we will move on to other girls or we will keep getting content for these 3? Do you guys have a plan on when to finish the content for the first trio? This question is probably made a lot, but i dont usually check the thread that often, sorry lol

Chapter 1 girls will continue to get content until the end of the game.

As well all future girls.

There will be 3 girls per chapter. Once we finish chapter 5, we'll go back and inject a selection of girls into relevant chapters. Perhaps earlier but this 3 girl per chapter rule is so that we can have an easier workload and thus faster updates for you guys.