VN Ren'Py the question is why ? as in why are they so damn useless?

[javikaston]

is it just me or is every boyfriend in games like the office, anna. Angelicas_Temptation

the boyfriend is a useless and worthless piece of shit? why is that?

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

I don't know if it's every game, but it's definitely a common trope. I can only speak for myself, but as a woman it feels like there is a great deal of frustration directed at the boyfriends. The creators of these games seem to be playing into this. I don't want to call it a "fetish" because it almost seems like the boyfriends are resented. And that makes some sense because the boyfriends are often perceived to be holding their girlfriend/wife/significant other back from further sexual encounters. But I'm sure some players are simply just resentful. So the boyfriends are written to be bastards or jerks so that it's easier to justify cheating on them. I would like to see more games with likable boyfriends because I think it would be interesting to see players be challenged (if even just slightly) for choosing to cheat on a good boyfriend.

 

[Adabelitoo]

I don't have any problem with the boyfriend as a player, in fact I wish I could find more games with likable boyfriends or male side-characters in general, but as a dev I can't tell you that it's better if the boyfriend is useless/stupid instead of smart/likeable.

Why you ask? Because a good amount of people will blame you, the dev, for "blocking them" with a nice guy. A while ago I did a thread with a completely different question and topic so I won't even link it here, but the thing in common was that in my thread there was one nice guy "blocking" the player from two girls and an usual answer was something like "if you make me choose between respecting the guy and let him have those girls or get rid of him and get those girls, I'll hate you for forcing me to get rid of the good guy".

The average player wants as many pussies as possible. If the boyfriend is a jerk then it's easy to take the girl away from him, but if the boyfriend is nice and likeable then it becomes a decision to make, but people still want the pussies so the nice guy will lose, but since it was their choice they may feel bad or uncomfortable about what they did, and then they will blame the dev for "forcing" them to take a decision that made them uncomfortable.

 

[javikaston]

I don't know if it's every game, but it's definitely a common trope. I can only speak for myself, but as a woman it feels like there is a great deal of frustration directed at the boyfriends. The creators of these games seem to be playing into this. I don't want to call it a "fetish" because it almost seems like the boyfriends are resented. And that makes some sense because the boyfriends are often perceived to be holding their girlfriend/wife/significant other back from further sexual encounters. But I'm sure some players are simply just resentful. So the boyfriends are written to be bastards or jerks so that it's easier to justify cheating on them. I would like to see more games with likable boyfriends because I think it would be interesting to see players be challenged (if even just slightly) for choosing to cheat on a good boyfriend.

I'm working on side project where the friend of a girl hes known for a while basically beats the fuck out of the boyfriend for being a useless douche. I can't stand these types of useless dudes.

 

[javikaston]

I don't have any problem with the boyfriend as a player, in fact I wish I could find more games with likable boyfriends or male side-characters in general, but as a dev I can't tell you that it's better if the boyfriend is useless/stupid instead of smart/likeable.

Why you ask? Because a good amount of people will blame you, the dev, for "blocking them" with a nice guy. A while ago I did a thread with a completely different question and topic so I won't even link it here, but the thing in common was that in my thread there was one nice guy "blocking" the player from two girls and an usual answer was something like "if you make me choose between respecting the guy and let him have those girls or get rid of him and get those girls, I'll hate you for forcing me to get rid of the good guy".

The average player wants as many pussies as possible. If the boyfriend is a jerk then it's easy to take the girl away from him, but if the boyfriend is nice and likeable then it becomes a decision to make, but people still want the pussies so the nice guy will lose, but since it was their choice they may feel bad or uncomfortable about what they did, and then they will blame the dev for "forcing" them to take a decision that made them uncomfortable.

i feel if they are going to make the boyfriend a useless fuck. why bother having the worthless douche in there to begin with ya now?

 

[Adabelitoo]

i feel if they are going to make the boyfriend a useless fuck. why bother having the worthless douche in there to begin with ya now?

Because taking the girl away from another man is a fetish on itself.

Showing that you're better/smarter/stronger than the other guy to the point when you can not only take his girl away from him but also deprive him from watching that girl again is a demostration of power. A lot of people, especially those who insert themselves as the MC, like that shit. They like to feel that they are better than others, it makes them feel good, and if they feel good they'll enjoy your game more and watch it with better eyes.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

i feel if they are going to make the boyfriend a useless fuck. why bother having the worthless douche in there to begin with ya now?

A worthless boyfriend is a convenient plot device. That doesn't make it a bad plot device, but it's definitely overused in the games I play. The stories in porn games are almost always paper thin, and even in the best stories there's not a lot of time for character development. So giving a girl a worthless boyfriend who she is devoted to may not make any sense, but it checks off a lot of fetishes.

 

[desmosome]

They are fodder for NTR, whether it be netorare or netori.

 

[anne O'nymous]

[...] but as a dev I can't tell you that it's better if the boyfriend is useless/stupid instead of smart/likeable.

Why you ask? [...]

I would add that it also make the premise more believable. All the game he named are female corruption games, in such games, the MC have to be in a situation where she have more to loose by refusing the corruption, that by accepting it.

If the boyfriend was smart, nice and lovable, the MC would prefer to loose the job/home/whatever ; "whatever happen next, we will deal with it like the strong couple we are". But with an useless boyfriend, she can only count on herself ; "I can't afford to loose this job/home/whatever, this whatever the price I'll have to pay for this".

 

[Jaike]

is it just me or is every boyfriend in games like the office, anna. Angelicas_Temptation

the boyfriend is a useless and worthless piece of shit? why is that?

These are crappy to boggo cheating games. Maybe you should try Jessica O'Neil's Hard News, the boyfriend in that game while he has skeletons in his closet is actually interesting and likeable, and the game has cheating options nevertheless.