The Questionable Forum Rules And Deleting Comments

[HUNUTAN]

The essences of what is happening is you chose to take matters into your own hands instead of following the rules.



How you behave is directly tied into your objections with the consequences you are unhappy with.



Escalating the accusation while detaching yourself and your role from your own story only leads to it being less believable.



There is only your word that there was even a problem, you've tried justifying your breaking the rules, which you admit to.
So far your point is loosing credibility as it just looks like a mod doing their job and you are unhappy with it.

Also I think it only fair to mention that in some of these cases, a mod sometimes appears and posts what is being discussed, so far it has NEVER turned out well for the person complaining as it shows they were in the wrong the whole time... just saying...



No idea what you mean by "non-working complaints"



I'm not sure if this is a translation issue but that sentence makes no sense at all. Could you clarify?

All you do is reproach me and slander me, tell me how to behave. Don't you think you should think about your own behavior? Is this normal behavior for you? What goal do you pursue by covering for and protecting people who create conflicts and cover them up? Maybe you feel a similarity in character with them? What rules do you think I broke?) Maybe these are some of "your" rules that I didn't know about? If you draw conclusions, at least base them on something other than your imagination. However, I see that you want to create a conflict, but look uninvolved. Stop considering other people stupider than you and stop this circus already.

 

[HUNUTAN]

Please, do not confuse "being over the age of majority" and "being adult".
Responding to attacks, especially in a media as virtual and irrelevant than internet, is a childish behavior, period.




And it's where adults differ from children; they aren't this easily offended.

Why should it matter what a perfect stranger, who know fucking nothing about you, can say on internet? They can intent to offend you, but it doesn't mean that you've to be offended. You can just take it as it is, the expression of their own frustration, and not care a single second about what they said.




Could it be because there's in fact nothing offending in what they said, and it's just you who overreact?




Be rational for two seconds. If you've nothing to discuss with him in private, why the fucking fuck do you feel that you've something to discuss with him in public? Because you felt it, else there would be no post to delete...
And don't answer "because he offended me", because it's a pure "you problem". Control yourself, understand that there's things that don't matters. Among them, come, in top position, everything a stranger can say on internet. There's 75% chance that he don't live in your country, and around 50% chance that he don't even live in the same continent than you, why should his opinion matters?
I'll even goes further, if you find him offending, why the fuck do you agree to give him so much power over you? Why the fucking fuck are you giving him the pleasure of seeing that he hurt you?

Um... Why are you writing this to me? If you read the comments, you should have realized that conflicts between users are not my topic and I am not interested in discussing them. I simply responded to another user's unfounded statements with these words. Why are you again raising the topic of conflicts and how to behave during them? Have I ever asked something like this? Understand the topic first. And since you want to answer my question, answer the main one: why do moderators delete comments based on their personal preferences and not on the site's rules or at least banal fairness? And why does this happen at all?

 

[moskyx]

Um... Why are you writing this to me? If you read the comments, you should have realized that conflicts between users are not my topic and I am not interested in discussing them. I simply responded to another user's unfounded statements with these words. Why are you again raising the topic of conflicts and how to behave during them? Have I ever asked something like this? Understand the topic first. And since you want to answer my question, answer the main one: why do moderators delete comments based on their personal preferences and not on the site's rules or at least banal fairness? And why does this happen at all?

As they are trying to tell you for a little while now, that's not what usually happens in this forum. This doesn't mean it never happens, but our experience vastly differs from yours. So, according to our own experience in this forum, either by being involved in some discussions that got deleted or as simply bystanders, mods do delete comments based on the site's rules and not on their personal preferences. So we can fairly assume some (or all) of the following happened:

• a) your replies to someone else's comment were indeed breaking a site's rule (note that a personal discussion can be considered off-topic as soon as you diverge from the game theme, which happens quite easily), someone reported those messages and mods did their job as expected;
• b) you never reported the original comment you were replying to, so mods only got your post reported and proceeded to delete it without taking a further look at the whole conversation;
• c) you indeed tried to report the original comment but that comment didn't break any rule on itself so it shouldn't be deleted and your report was rejected;
• d) in the less-than-slightly likely case that your report was totally on point and some mod did a poor moderating job, you never tried to open a ticket, which is the proper way to tackle moderating issues.

Now, you can keep going in circles believing mods are going all out for you and defending the real culprits (and, as morphnet pointed out earlier, it usually happens that whenever someone claims on a thread that mods are being unfair to him, some mod shows up with proofs that don't make the complainer look any good), or you can reflect on your actions and learn how you should deal with discussions (and its consequences) in this forum.

 

[anne O'nymous]

Why are you again raising the topic of conflicts and how to behave during them?

Because it's the main topic of this thread...
Would you have behaved like an adult is actually expected to behave, there would have been no reason to delete your post.

Have I ever asked something like this?

You opened a thread on a public forum, and in it made ridiculous claim regarding how you think that adults are supposed to behave. Suffer that some adults among the public correct your totally unfounded statements.

And since you want to answer my question, answer the main one: why do moderators delete comments based on their personal preferences and not on the site's rules or at least banal fairness?

Answering your question is easy: They don't, period.

 

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• Zuhl
  
• Heute um 13:48

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• Sam
  
• Heute um 14:02

Don't create multiple tickets for the same issue, especially in unrelated categories.

Your post was removed because it was offtopic, this is defined in our rules. If you want to talk about other games then PM that person and have a private conversation.






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• Zuhl
  
• Heute um 15:49

the removed comment is on topic. if this post is not relevant to the topic then you have to delete 90 percent of the posts. as I said the reason is questionable. because an exact reason is missing. furthermore there were no tickets with the same reason this is about the cleanup and this is about everything plus my comments as well as the other comments from others






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• Sam
  
• Heute um 17:17

You created two tickets, first this one: https://f95zone.to/tickets/sorry-your-comment-was-removed-as-part-of-our-comment-cleanup.18922/
And now this one, in the 'staff applications' category: https://f95zone.to/tickets/posts-were-deleted-reasoning-questionable.18930/

Rule 2.1 says:

Your post was against our rules. It was off topic. It led to a multiple page derailment. I cannot put it any more simply than this.

You're welcome to disagree with our decision or the rules, but that's just the way it is.






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• Zuhl
  
• Heute um 18:17

Point one, it wasn't derailing, it was over because there was nothing more to say. There was no reason to delete my and other people's posts
and read what it refers to as I said, one is about cleaning the other about deleting a lot about the questionable reason for the deletion I only copied the conversation so that you know

now you say it's about it getting out of hand. before because I mentioned another game. the rules on the subject are flexible, the admin should be flexible too, like the one or the other in F-95 rules, again, in other words the principle of discussion. and there will always be comparisons with other games and references to them. which is why I say that you had to delete 90% of the posts with your reasons. also in the area where you deleted mine and other people's posts. because the recent comments were also about another game, they were not deleted. it would be nice if you could restore them, if that doesn't work, at least one in the future, we'll pay more attention to it, in relation to white jokes that correspond, first of all because. change your post to correspond if you agree. or we... you have to remove it. In retrospect, I don't agree with your reasoning. and partly your rules are flexible. as you said yourself, it was getting out of hand, so it was OK, but I thought it was too much. that's not right. so I'm making a place here where people can talk about the game or not. and your rules don't prohibit it to a certain extent either. it's allowed, your rules apply to more areas, so sometimes some rules don't make sense. it's normal to compare other games and that they come to the same language. banning that in a set of rules is honestly pointless. you should rework the set of rules. and remember that exchanging information about a game automatically leads to a different game.






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• Vor 51 Minuten

You're welcome to disagree with our decision or the rules, but that's just the way it is.






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It used to be worse, it was common practice to nuke an entire thread if one user broke the rules.

 

[morphnet]

All you do is reproach me and slander me, tell me how to behave.

Trying to shift focus from the topic to me is not going to work, doing so only further weakens your position showing that because you have no answer for the valid points made, you are now trying to get out of it by calling into question the replying member.

Don't you think you should think about your own behavior?

I do, constantly but I take it in this context you are referring to my behavior in our exchange. There has been nothing wrong with my behavior during our exchange, I have been civil, I've answered honestly, given you opportunities to explain / expand on areas I have admitted I don't understand, given you chances to elaborate and few though they may be given you the benefit of the doubt where possible.

What goal do you pursue by covering for and protecting people who create conflicts and cover them up?

Firstly, I don't need to cover for anyone. You made your role in this issue clear and you WERE in the wrong.
Secondly, The mods don't need protecting, as I pointed out before, you admit to breaking the rules so the mod was doing their job. Also I think you meant defending not protecting.

Maybe you feel a similarity in character with them? What rules do you think I broke?

Read what YOU wrote yourself

Someone provokes me into a conflict or insults me, but it is my responses to them that are deleted

Here you admit you brought conflict into a thread. You admit you responded instead of reporting or taking it to PM.

Don't make me laugh, responding to other people's attacks is completely adult behavior.

Here again you admit, try to justify and reason your actions while admitting you respond. (which is against the rules)

Maybe these are some of "your" rules that I didn't know about?

https://f95zone.to/threads/general-rules-updated-2025-01-29.5589/

2. On-Topic Threads
1. All discussions in these threads should be kept on-topic and be about the game/content/creator/etc

• Please move any disruptive/prolonged arguments to PM

Responding to what YOU perceive of conflict, responding to what YOU perceive as an attack is against the rules.
I have even posted this in a reply to you before.....

If you draw conclusions, at least base them on something other than your imagination.

Please refer to the above add quotes of yours where you admit to breaking the rules and the link of the rules themselves.

However, I see that you want to create a conflict, but look uninvolved.

Once again, trying to shift focus from the topic to me only weakens your position. You also seem to misinterpret many things said to you and seem to be under the impression that anyone who does not agree with / support you is trying to create conflict. Both of these require you to do some self reflection.

Stop considering other people stupider than you and stop this circus already.

Now you are making assumptions, I have been civil throughout our exchange, you are the one bringing hostility into it.
Your replies give a good indication of what your replies looked like in other threads, if this is the case and this is the attitude you have brought to other discussions then it is no wonder that they were the ones deleted.

Also, while you were shifting focus from the topic to me you failed to answer ANY of my questions from my last post.

No idea what you mean by "non-working complaints"

I'm not sure if this is a translation issue but that sentence makes no sense at all. Could you clarify?

 

[morphnet]

It used to be worse, it was common practice to nuke an entire thread if one user broke the rules.

That is not true at all and a complete exaggeration, it is also missing context and information.

Threads were never nuked because one user broke the rules, they were nuked after other users continued to engage and disrupt the thread after numerous warnings. It was also NOT common.

 

[tanstaafl]

It used to be worse, it was common practice to nuke an entire thread if one user broke the rules.

Are you thinking about when threads are moved to off-topic? Because other than that it seems you're just talking out of your ass.

 

[HUNUTAN]

Because it's the main topic of this thread...
Would you have behaved like an adult is actually expected to behave, there would have been no reason to delete your post.




You opened a thread on a public forum, and in it made ridiculous claim regarding how you think that adults are supposed to behave. Suffer that some adults among the public correct your totally unfounded statements.




Answering your question is easy: They don't, period.

Hmm... I don't even have anything to say to a person who is incapable of reading a couple of the top comments and who claims that he is absolutely right and knows your thoughts better than you... Sorry, but I have no desire to talk to a clearly inadequate person and even more so to listen to his words, so if you have even a drop of consciousness left, then don't write to me anymore.

 

[HUNUTAN]

As they are trying to tell you for a little while now, that's not what usually happens in this forum. This doesn't mean it never happens, but our experience vastly differs from yours. So, according to our own experience in this forum, either by being involved in some discussions that got deleted or as simply bystanders, mods do delete comments based on the site's rules and not on their personal preferences. So we can fairly assume some (or all) of the following happened:

• a) your replies to someone else's comment were indeed breaking a site's rule (note that a personal discussion can be considered off-topic as soon as you diverge from the game theme, which happens quite easily), someone reported those messages and mods did their job as expected;
• b) you never reported the original comment you were replying to, so mods only got your post reported and proceeded to delete it without taking a further look at the whole conversation;
• c) you indeed tried to report the original comment but that comment didn't break any rule on itself so it shouldn't be deleted and your report was rejected;
• d) in the less-than-slightly likely case that your report was totally on point and some mod did a poor moderating job, you never tried to open a ticket, which is the proper way to tackle moderating issues.

Now, you can keep going in circles believing mods are going all out for you and defending the real culprits (and, as morphnet pointed out earlier, it usually happens that whenever someone claims on a thread that mods are being unfair to him, some mod shows up with proofs that don't make the complainer look any good), or you can reflect on your actions and learn how you should deal with discussions (and its consequences) in this forum.

If option "D" where and what should I have pressed? I'm just not aware of this function and how it works.

 

[Count Morado]

If option "D" where and what should I have pressed? I'm just not aware of this function and how it works.

Look at the main menu at the top of the page if you're on a computer screen and if your are on mobile device you should click on the hamburger in the upper left of your screen at the header, scroll down the main menu: either should show - TICKETS

Or, with you having used the site for periods of time over 5 years - you should have read the general rules of the site and saw near the bottom is:

8. Reporting people

1. Everyone has the option to report users and should do so if they feel it's necessary. Make sure to write a clear and detailed report about the situation, giving quotes and/or links of the threads in question (even if they have since been deleted), and include screenshots if appropriate
2. Pick an appropriate category when submitting a Report
3. If you have a problem with a Moderator, contact a Staff Member or open a Support Ticket
4. If you have a problem with a Staff Member, contact F95 and Sam via Support Ticket
5. Do not abuse the Report or Ticket systems

Side note, not only do not abuse the systems... But also do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.

 

[Lerd0]

Are you thinking about when threads are moved to off-topic? Because other than that it seems you're just talking out of your ass.

..nah he kinda right...kinda...plenty of threads get yeeted.....at least 1 everyday....
....most are complete shit tho......or the op asks to get thread deleted.....

 

[HUNUTAN]

..nah he kinda right...kinda...plenty of threads get yeeted.....at least 1 everyday....
....most are complete shit tho......or the op asks to get thread deleted.....

Well, regarding large-scale deletions, I witnessed one situation, although it was a long time ago. There was a dispute about NTR in the thread, and then the moderator deleted half the comments in the thread under the game. Well, everything would be fine, but the comments were deleted randomly and most of them had nothing to do with the topic of the disputes and did not violate any rules. It's just one of the cases that I personally witnessed, as an example of what happens.

 

[anne O'nymous]

[...] and who claims that he is absolutely right and knows your thoughts better than you...

I just stated some obvious facts.

Moderators do not act based on their personal belief, there's no conspiracy against you, and if a post is deleted, it's never because of what another member did, but because of the way his author behaved.
Therefore, all complaint about moderators deleting a post |b]always|/b] resolve around their author behavior.

Sorry, but I have no desire to talk to a clearly inadequate person and even more so to listen to his words, [...]

Yet you did both...

 

[tanstaafl]

..nah he kinda right...kinda...plenty of threads get yeeted.....at least 1 everyday....
....most are complete shit tho......or the op asks to get thread deleted.....

It is much more common practice to just delete two people's comments from threads, not the whole post. I know it happens, but the number of threads that disappear is less than the threads where my personal posts and someone very annoyed with me have their comments removed from the post...just as an example of course.

On top of that, from what I've seen, if a thread goes on long enough to get fully derailed it's just moved to off-topic.

 

[Dryme]

Moderators

Damn, the site would be great if you were a moderator

 

[Icarus Media]

Damn, the site would be great if you were a moderator

No it fuckin wouldn't!

 

[tanstaafl]

No it fuckin wouldn't!

It would be much more amusing...admit it.

 

[Icarus Media]

It would be much more amusing...admit it.

The last time a French person got power they ended up exiled to an island, let's not make the F95 equivalent please...

 

[tanstaafl]

The last time a French person got power they ended up exiled to an island, let's not make the F95 equivalent please...

It was a really nice island though...