RPGM The Stereotype That Only Girls Play Healers Isn’t True at All!!! [v2.4] [Headpat]

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GamingSavant

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At a certain point, one has to stand up and play around this sort of situation. Which is why I have written a few snippets on my archive thread in Questionable Questing where MC actually has a backbone and Luna gets 'corrected'.

Just as easily she can folds to dudes trying to get their way with her, she is keen to fold as a cuckquean with strong enough women craving her boyfriend's stability, money, and dick.
If his previous game is anything to go by, nothing's gonna progress in terms of the MC's character, he'll just get more pathetic while Luna becomes worse. The thing with "My Girlfriend Changed to the Dancer Class" was that Sana actually had charm in a "ditzy slut" type of way, and despite being a massive slut, she still loved her boyfriend. Luna says she loves her boyfriend but then treats him like actual shit and is immediately in the "I want some other dude's babies" train.
 

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If his previous game is anything to go by, nothing's gonna progress in terms of the MC's character, he'll just get more pathetic while Luna becomes worse. The thing with "My Girlfriend Changed to the Dancer Class" was that Sana actually had charm in a "ditzy slut" type of way, and despite being a massive slut, she still loved her boyfriend. Luna says she loves her boyfriend but then treats him like actual shit and is immediately in the "I want some other dude's babies" train.
It's their formula and Headpat is of the kind of 'don't shake the boat when it somewhat work' when... there was an interest to actually shake the boat with this story when there were early attempts to give the MC a chance to fight it off. The previous game allowed the MC to actually do something. Not much, but it was still something that could have led to him being the father of Sana's kid. In this game? Beyond an early prompt involving Raze which so happens to 'always fail', you can't avoid it. Same for the Spider Boss. You are meant to fail it since, for some odd reasons, you can't still level up.

Early on in the thread I called this a mix of Sana and their first game, and that was something of a disservice. Because this game is the worst aspects of both. I am not even mad if it had been presented as a NTR-only game, but they have made it clear early on this game would have offered two paths to follow, and yet they backtracked the moment their backers got fussy they didn't get their ideal NTR-only game.

If only some creators could be a bit more honest rather than throw half of their initial fanbase under the bus.
 

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It's their formula and Headpat is of the kind of 'don't shake the boat when it somewhat work' when... there was an interest to actually shake the boat with this story when there were early attempts to give the MC a chance to fight it off. The previous game allowed the MC to actually do something. Not much, but it was still something that could have led to him being the father of Sana's kid. In this game? Beyond an early prompt involving Raze which so happens to 'always fail', you can't avoid it. Same for the Spider Boss. You are meant to fail it since, for some odd reasons, you can't still level up.

Early on in the thread I called this a mix of Sana and their first game, and that was something of a disservice. Because this game is the worst aspects of both. I am not even mad if it had been presented as a NTR-only game, but they have made it clear early on this game would have offered two paths to follow, and yet they backtracked the moment their backers got fussy they didn't get their ideal NTR-only game.

If only some creators could be a bit more honest rather than throw half of their initial fanbase under the bus.
As I understand it, Headpat still plans to add a non-NTR route, but is focusing on the NTR content for now, the same as they did with Sana, no? If I remember correctly, the non-NTR route didn't have an ending (or even any sex content) for the vast majority of that game's development. If I had to guess, dev is probably locking off the non-NTR route until there's actually something there, as opposed to releasing a couple dozen builds that just have nothing on the non-NTR route.

Luna's just a pretty standard tsundere, it just so happens that when you mix a tsundere character with an NTR plot, the mixed signals from the tsundere architype just get even more mixed and it can get confusing and contradictory fast, especially when the tsundere character is also biologically primed to get stupid horny stupid easy. That's just one of the risks that comes with anything where you're writing characters, not everyone is going to like them, and even fewer will like the specific mix of characters and situations.

And *of course* the game is going to be rough and unfinished feeling, potentially even "the worst aspects of both (Sana and their first game)", the game is still very much a work in progress. Dev hasn't even finished the first town or really started on the second, and people are out here reviewing it like it's a finished product. People were pissed about progress on Sana too, and now I see a lot of people saying it's his best game, and some even calling it one of the best NTR games out there.


Long tl;dr, give it time. Game is still *very much* a work in progress, and the dev has been adamant that as development continues, many of the complaints people have will be addressed, particularly with regards to pacing and the later addition of a non-NTR route. If you don't like the game in it's current state, try giving it a solid few updates before coming back. If you don't like the mix of tsundere + NTR, then I really don't know what to tell you, that's just a preference thing. For an early active development game, it seems just fine to me.


Short tl;dr, the game is still very early in development. Give it more time, come back once things are more finalized and polished, and you may have some of your opinions changed. Or don't, I'm not your boss.
 

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Fair enough, I could have sworn I've seen Headpat ask people not to post patreon images before, but I very much could be wrong. There's a lot of threads here with relatively active devs with patreon-only updates, I could easily be mixing devs up here. If so, that's entirely my bad.
Hi! That wasn't me. I don't think I can do anything about pirates. If people want to support us they will and that's all I can ask for.

If only some creators could be a bit more honest rather than throw half of their initial fanbase under the bus.
The game is at 1 act out of 4 and the story regarding Luna's corruption is all over the place because I develop the game in the following way: When it comes to the story I do my own thing, when it comes to the H scenes I try to first deliver what I feel like has the biggest demand at the moment.
The Raze IRL scenes are already in because everyone really wanted to see IRL events.
I keep reading comments where people treat it as some final release of a story that disappoints everyone when Anon & Luna aren't even able to leave their apartment and go into the city yet.
Naturally, because our games are about NTR we've always had a lot of detractors. I don't think the comments harping on about how bad and rushed the story is will stop any time soon.
 

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The game is at 1 act out of 4 and the story regarding Luna's corruption is all over the place because I develop the game in the following way: When it comes to the story I do my own thing, when it comes to the H scenes I try to first deliver what I feel like has the biggest demand at the moment.
The Raze IRL scenes are already in because everyone really wanted to see IRL events.
I keep reading comments where people treat it as some final release of a story that disappoints everyone when Anon & Luna aren't even able to leave their apartment and go into the city yet.
Naturally, because our games are about NTR we've always had a lot of detractors. I don't think the comments harping on about how bad and rushed the story is will stop any time soon.
Hello, and if this is the case then I am sure and hope this game will properly mature, but I do have to mention that this is the first concrete time that it is brought up how the NTR Path is being developed first. It was intended, at least unwittingly mentioned through the early releases, that both paths were meant to be fleshed out at the same time. Something which was given legitimacy with the first encounter with Raze.

Still, I will not press too much on the NTR-only misunderstanding since it is clear now that both paths will be fleshed out in due time, first NTR and then the non-NTR.

One last thing I wish to ask, and this is out of legitimate curiosity which I know is shared by a few players of this game, is there a reason why Luna is so intensely influenced by sexual harassment through Gao Quest? I mean, is there some form of curse, or magic, or divine involvement that makes her feel it through the game despite it being the sort of game that uses a controller?

If it is spoiler, I will be just fine with 'there is a reason and it will be revealed later', but I think it's fair to have something of a vague confirmation to explain how that is messing with Luna's mind so much.
 

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If it is spoiler, I will be just fine with 'there is a reason and it will be revealed later', but I think it's fair to have something of a vague confirmation to explain how that is messing with Luna's mind so much.
It is indeed a spoiler! Probably half the thread is dedicated to this topic and I had to really control myself to not say anything, especially when people got negative about it. I would have really prefered to keep people completely in the dark about it until the "oh..." moment happens but I will acknowledge it now in the hope that some of the negativity goes away. It will make sense eventually but that's all I say for now!
 

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Hi! That wasn't me. I don't think I can do anything about pirates. If people want to support us they will and that's all I can ask for.


The game is at 1 act out of 4 and the story regarding Luna's corruption is all over the place because I develop the game in the following way: When it comes to the story I do my own thing, when it comes to the H scenes I try to first deliver what I feel like has the biggest demand at the moment.
The Raze IRL scenes are already in because everyone really wanted to see IRL events.
I keep reading comments where people treat it as some final release of a story that disappoints everyone when Anon & Luna aren't even able to leave their apartment and go into the city yet.
Naturally, because our games are about NTR we've always had a lot of detractors. I don't think the comments harping on about how bad and rushed the story is will stop any time soon.
I know that reading so much criticism can get to you so I want to get out of my lurker mode to just say for a moment that I quite like the story and progression so far - and don't really mind the things people complain about.

I simply usually enjoy quietly but just wanted to mention that now
 
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At a certain point, one has to stand up and play around this sort of situation. Which is why I have written a few snippets on my archive thread in Questionable Questing where MC actually has a backbone and Luna gets 'corrected'.

Just as easily she can folds to dudes trying to get their way with her, she is keen to fold as a cuckquean with strong enough women craving her boyfriend's stability, money, and dick.
Link?
 
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Ok but showing early a scene that's supposed to happen later, weirdly without context, of course would ruin the experience for a lot of people, i don't think the majority would like spoilers, usually people leave the best part for last. It was totally a bad decision(in my opinion)
It really was a bad decision. I think it caused more harm than it satisfied people's thirst.
 

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It really was a bad decision. I think it caused more harm than it satisfied people's thirst.
On the one hand, I agree that releasing the IRL stuff early did more harm than good overall.

On the other hand, if Headpat didn't, the thread would instead be filled with people complaining (possibly the same people complaining now) that there isn't any IRL stuff happening and would be calling for more IRL stuff to occur.

A literal 'Damned if you do, Damned if you don't' situation. I honestly don't think there is anything Headpat could do that would satisfy these people, judging by some of the comments that I've read.
 

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I think there were other ways to get Irl scenes. That Raze has fucked Luna in the Irl before the game is too much. There were ways to wear it softer and then obtain total corruption.
In addition, the fact that the creator follows user complaints is a double -edged sword, I do not want it to end like all those who leave their games or end up completing their game mediocreously.
(Using translator)
 

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EDIT: I noticed it may be against the rules to post a link to QQ since it requires account to access to NSFW. Just get an account there, look at my name and my Snippet Archive. The name of the snippet series is: My Wolf GF sucks at MMO (Literally).

It was a lose-lose situation. Headpat could've made the irl scenes be more teasing, like maybe catching Luna masturbating or smth, but atp people were also complaining about the lack of actual sex scenes.
I bet that would have happened, but the whiners would have been drowned by folks that get the point that RL should be more meaningful. From what I get, the in-game stuff was meant to mellow Luna, for her to just *fingersnap* get horny so fast may be a bit too much. Just pace it slower, people that plays this sort of game do want to have a degree of locial plausibility to play with. if there isn't any, then the starting point becomes moot.
 

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I'm not complaining about the game or NTR in general, but although I know it lacks more content, the only thing that confused me was that unlike Sana, Luna doesn't have a goddess that nerfs the MC, so I feel like there's an unfilled plot hole because she hasn't tried to quell her jealousy with literally a man by her side and realize that he either doesn't have the stamina, size, or technique to please her and that's why she looks for Race since from what we know even Sana had more intimacy in one way or another than Luna since she's still ashamed to kiss and then we jump to her bringing Race home and hitting the MC for not taking him out XD.

Well the joke is that the jump was too big for us to adapt to the NTR scenes since those jumps only work with Vanilla.
 

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honestly, well that's normal considering that the real story so far kind of ends after the first time Luna is molested but I still think there should be a netorase subroute because it seems like something that fits perfectly into their stories and yes, there is a lack of more development phases so that the corruption is more gradual now it gives a feeling that many scenes are missing in the middle
 

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If his previous game is anything to go by, nothing's gonna progress in terms of the MC's character, he'll just get more pathetic while Luna becomes worse. The thing with "My Girlfriend Changed to the Dancer Class" was that Sana actually had charm in a "ditzy slut" type of way, and despite being a massive slut, she still loved her boyfriend. Luna says she loves her boyfriend but then treats him like actual shit and is immediately in the "I want some other dude's babies" train.

You're partially right, but tbh you're probably forgetting just how much drama was in this game too, think its the worst aspect of it tbh, cuz yeah, while you can discard a lot of it to her being a ditzy slut and comedic relief plus standard anime tropes, but some stuff she did to mc, not to mention other characters was absolutely nasty. Still a good game cuz i'm good at ignoring shit like that, just wish it gets more content and finally releases so i can buy it with a good conscious.

This game meanwhile... Idk, yeah, i guess overall its still way too early to tell, honestly i'm liking the story and dynamic between the characters here way more so far, there isn't as much drama or blatant abuse either like in Sana too, plus there's the video game layer to it so the 'pushing mc off the bridge' stuff is actually easy to see as fully comedic... The only problems so far are that there's just way too little content, and also the town design and event placement which pisses me off unbelievably, would be immensely better if he added a couple shortcuts in tree lines and fences and moved event interaction points a bit so you don't need to walk around them for five times longer than you should. But then the time to clear would drop from 1.5~ hours to 0.5 hours lol... Which takes me back to the lack of content and that it'd probably take 3 years minimum to have as much as Sana
 
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