HTML The Zeta Sector [v1.6.2] [Primal356]

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Troqu

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Ok it's been a while since I had a chance to sit down with this game, but today I had some time since I was asked to sit in on a late meeting and didn't want to get into anything too strenuous.
First there's either a bug or a typo in the changelog. No choices you make affect what path you go down. Elena sells you regardless even if you cooperate immediately.
I guess I don't really care that her character has devolved into a mustache twirling light novel villain instead of a person now, seeing as how we don't even get to know her before she betrays us. I'll play from now on pretending not to know what she was like before.

The Strelok story is a fine but I think you should flesh it out some more to make it a bit more consistent. For example, give some backstory why he was willing to accept the deal in the first place, give a reason for the buyout price is so low (you can buy yourself free in 5 days easily, gameplay wise DO NOT increase the buyout price, the zeta sector has a lot of cool areas that have been in various builds, and restricting players to some tiny portion of it for hours while they work to buy their freedom is not it my friend), and either explain why she's so cordial with her slavers or make her words towards them more hostile as that's her only real method of resisting at this time.

Now for the unpleasant part. The main reasons I stopped following the thread were two fold, but related:
1. Your constant requests for feedback, though admirable in your desire to please your audience, were frustrating because often the answer was "exactly what I said last time" or because of point 2, too numerous to count. It lead to a fatigue when deciding to respond and eventually I unwatched the thread for my own sanity.
2. You very often seemed to implement extreme amounts of changes based on the feedback of a small number of people. Unfortunately this has left you constantly reworking the opening of the game to please whoever commented last. Now the latest build is marked as a reboot on the first post, so I don't know if this is still happening, but since Daz3d models shouldn't really require a new story, I'm betting this is still happening.

Again as stated above it is good you want to respect your audience, but I think you need to sit down and decide some broad strokes for the game/story that just won't change. Ask for feedback on that if you must before you lock it in, but once you do don't let comments sway you from it. I suggest you include the following:
1. MCs backstory
2. Major character backstory and motivations. (Choose an Elena and stick to her)
3. Number of planets in the sector that will be available
4. If those planets are going to be free roam or will you restrict the players to being in one planet at a time, no going back.

I know its comforting to be able to change things as you want, but if you have this stuff down in writing somewhere I think your project will be much more stable.
 
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Primal356

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Ok it's been a while since I had a chance to sit down with this game, but today I had some time since I was asked to sit in on a late meeting and didn't want to get into anything too strenuous.
First there's either a bug or a typo in the changelog. No choices you make affect what path you go down. Elena sells you regardless even if you cooperate immediately.
I guess I don't really care that her character has devolved into a mustache twirling light novel villain instead of a person now, seeing as how we don't even get to know her before she betrays us. I'll play from now on pretending not to know what she was like before.

The Strelok story is a fine but I think you should flesh it out some more to make it a bit more consistent. For example, give some backstory why he was willing to accept the deal in the first place, give a reason for the buyout price is so low (you can buy yourself free in 5 days easily, gameplay wise DO NOT increase the buyout price, the zeta sector has a lot of cool areas that have been in various builds, and restricting players to some tiny portion of it for hours while they work to buy their freedom is not it my friend), and either explain why she's so cordial with her slavers or make her words towards them more hostile as that's her only real method of resisting at this time.

Now for the unpleasant part. The main reasons I stopped following the thread were two fold, but related:
1. Your constant requests for feedback, though admirable in your desire to please your audience, were frustrating because often the answer was "exactly what I said last time" or because of point 2, too numerous to count. It lead to a fatigue when deciding to respond and eventually I unwatched the thread for my own sanity.
2. You very often seemed to implement extreme amounts of changes based on the feedback of a small number of people. Unfortunately this has left you constantly reworking the opening of the game to please whoever commented last. Now the latest build is marked as a reboot on the first post, so I don't know if this is still happening, but since Daz3d models shouldn't really require a new story, I'm betting this is still happening.

Again as stated above it is good you want to respect your audience, but I think you need to sit down and decide some broad strokes for the game/story that just won't change. Ask for feedback on that if you must before you lock it in, but once you do don't let comments sway you from it. I suggest you include the following:
1. MCs backstory
2. Major character backstory and motivations. (Choose an Elena and stick to her)
3. Number of planets in the sector that will be available
4. If those planets are going to be free roam or will you restrict the players to being in one planet at a time, no going back.

I know its comforting to be able to change things as you want, but if you have this stuff down in writing somewhere I think your project will be much more stable.
If you exhaust the 1. and 2. speech options with Elena and you climb down the cargo hold you can climb inside the cage willingly. If you do that Elena will keep the mc. I thought I'd share because there is a lot of content with her in 1.6.2. Including Helcion IV that you can access via dream sequence if you reach 10 corruption.
 
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Sorry for the little rant but I wanted to point it out. Even if you have devs with 3-4 subscribers there are people who let the dev know they like their work on f95zone. In here it's just people telling me how garbage it is. So I don't know what is actually to be preserved here. 1.2.51 is literally the shittest thing that was ever uploaded on the site.
Eh, rant away. FWIW, I hadn't commented because I didn't really get what I was commenting on. It felt like some promethean act 1 that could be anything and its exact opposite by the next version. I'm probably going to stop watching because I don't really care for the new Elena. Because her being a cookie cutter villain that turns into a loving mistress if you crawl into the cage yourself? Ugh. Worst iteration of the ever-malleable act 1 yet, by far.
 
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Eh, rant away. FWIW, I hadn't commented because I didn't really get what I was commenting on. It felt like some promethean act 1 that could be anything and its exact opposite by the next version. I'm probably going to stop watching because I don't really care for the new Elena. Because her being a cookie cutter villain that turns into a loving mistress if you crawl into the cage yourself? Ugh. Worst iteration of the ever-malleable act 1 yet, by far.
I'm just so glad that people like you couldn't write a single comment before. But oh the dev suddenly does something that you don't like and here you are. If you don't follow then you don't follow. If I don't make this change I would have never heard about your presence anyhow.
 

Primal356

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Again as stated above it is good you want to respect your audience, but I think you need to sit down and decide some broad strokes for the game/story that just won't change. Ask for feedback on that if you must before you lock it in, but once you do don't let comments sway you from it.
The way it's planned: You arrive to the station either via Travis or Elena. You realize there is a coolant leak so you buy a spacesuit and get to action. As you get to action you realize that there is no leak but there is a gang that is trying to take control of the station. Once you deal with their goons you get a surprise visit by the Supervisor (previoulsy the Caregiver). He says that there is a crime lord who wants to take control of the station and it was his men you fought. He gives you missions that by completing you increase your fame and you can get the crimelord's attention and take him down. But of course you can become his sex slave... I mean you can kill him and become The Pirate Queen. And of course you would also kill the Supervisor and take control of the station.

The slavery part will be more sandbox like. You can buy yourself out of slavery and this way you can get an owner of your choosing. But later on there will be dom content as well. I'm sorry about Elena becoming a mustache villain but I can't center the story around her the way I did before. Still she, Elizabeth and Neil will have a lot of slavery stuff and an extensive slave cycle. Right now I want to have the other planets but you can only access them after you got through some content. The completion time will be around 2027 now that I want to have the other planets. There are 2 other games The Adamant an The Tale of the Princess Who Never Was that will be in Ren'Py and I want to work on them later on. Right now they are at the planning stage, but the smaller games will be done by the end of 2026 and this way they can get some steam.

Sorry about all these changes but when I launched the game on f95zone I was like John Snow and I didn't know anything. I also had this concept that a game should never end and would just be extended forever, which is nice because it sort of ensures that everything you do initially will end up in the garbage can. Sadly all these changes also mean that not every promise can get fully delivered. But the game is certainly on track and it will certainly get completed.
 
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It's good that you have a solid foundation now then. I will look forward to some future builds when I have the time to try it. Keep at it friend.
 
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Just a heads up. I decided to post my fourth game on f95zone: https://f95zone.to/threads/desert-nightmare-alescia-v0-5-primal356.258888/

I had a big dilemma about when to post it. Originally I wanted to do it when it's completed. But I have to finish Nel's Misfortune first, which pushes the completion date to 2026. There is also a problem that it is no longer accessible via The Zeta Sector since the VR glass is no longer there. So I decided to just post it and be done with it.
 
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