Let's say I want to get a job in the field of X. How do I go about doing that? A university education would show my employer that I have the relevant expertise, but according to you, uni is bullshit. Okay, so no university, so how do I go about doing it? How do I prove to my potential employer that I have the skills they're looking for? Again, according to you, by telling them that I'm self-taught, and hoping they'll hire me on a conditional basis and give me a mock assignment.
And how do I get them to do that? For all they know, they're wasting their time on somebody who's trying to get a job for which they're not qualified, and they no doubt have multiple applicants anyway. What do you think is more likely; That they'll waste their time on a person who is likely either a liar or conceited, or filter out the applicants who don't have any proof of their supposed skills?
This is not an actual question. You're not going to give any answer that actually relates to how the job market works 99.9% of the time, and I certainly don't expect an honest answer from somebody so weasily as to not even admit to schadenfreude. This is just me venting because arrogant people saying blatantly stupid things frustrates me.
Don't get me wrong there are things university is the right answer for doctors.
Those who plan a career in research and not practical application depending on the field college can be a good answer.
Law because of the rules and laws in most states or countries makes that the primary or sole means of getting into it.
That said I know for a fact they had a off books bar test done a while back with people who studied on their own time and its percentage of people who pasted exceeds a certain California university. Kind of makes me think maybe we could find better lawyers if those rules were amended to just require passing the bar exam.
There are a number of ways you can build skills with out university.
Military, Trade schools, Adult education systems, OJT, intern...
A hell of a lot of companies like to promote from with in and have relaxed requirements for those working there.
A good number of other companies have on their job announcements things like work replacements for education or ability to demonstrate skills...
That brings us to another option for learning do it yourself. Most college professors aren't going to spend a lot of one on one time with you. So how are you learning. Well they give you books hold a few lectures and give you a number of assignments to figure out on your own in most cases. Then there are the labs.
If you really think you need that degree at the end of it apply for a life's work through Edison university in the field you want.
It will cost you a few thousand dollars but it is fully credited. They aren't a paper mill either.
You must be registered to see the links
That's a hell of a lot cheaper than paying the full curriculum.
You aren't going to get away with a half ass level of knowledge they fully expect you to prove you have the knowledge document the work you done in it.
Colleges don't teach you the skills you need. That's a misconception. If they did we employers wouldn't have to spend 9 to 15 months on average training you college graduates. Yea, seriously I wish what you said was the case. But it is total bull.
Do yourself a favor and research how many college graduates actually work in their field.
How many actually manage to succeed after college.
I'll hire someone out of the US Naval Nuclear power program before a college degree even without them having any training in the field. The reason is simple they will learn. They will do the job the way they are told and right and can make sound decisions when left on their own.
There are people who went the garage way who are more successful than most college graduates. They chose to learn. They had more time and money to dedicate to learning because while they held a job they were wasting it paying absorbent fees to a university. For the money you pay a college you can build an awesome as hell lab at home.
If you want to get into electrical start of working for an electric company. Get decent pay learn on the job and study at home NFPA doesn't take much to learn.
Comp Science. Buy a cheap computer learn to program. used pc $35 will get you in the door. I put together a full stack when I started out for a few hundred. Now there is an HP reliant server sitting 4feet from me on my office floor not in use even. I have a dozen smaller servers set around my house. You can rent rack space in a data center for a rack for about 450 a month if shop around. Learn front end and back end. Seriously, nothing like showing up at the door of a company showing you have a working demo of that nature to prove you can do the work.
Chemistry again home lab. Get a job working for someone like TI or an oil company on the ground floor it will pay for you to learn. They will most likely send you to internal classes and offer then to pay for college if that is what you want. You'll learn faster at home. You want to make sure to pay attention to the safety portion of chemistry like your life depends on it. It really does.
A lot of entry level jobs you can get with certificates in various things. A lot of community colleges allow you to get credit by exam. Use that to get in and learn on the job.
Most the time it comes down to proving to the employer you actually have an aptitude for the work and that you are trainable.
I once new a guy who took a test for Texas Instruments equipment engineering over 10 times before they ever promoted him into it.
You must be registered to see the links
Honestly, you have a better chance of being successful opening your own business than trying college
if you use your head.
Most small business fail because of stupidity. Trying to expand to fast and take on to much debt and other similar issues.
Like trying to rent a building on the very first day of business when you have no customers. Never having tested the market ability of their product or service. 2 in 3 business fail do to
You must be registered to see the links
Owe another good thing about building and buying and repairing lab equipment for yourself. You can actually find a job doing that also. Your work at home will usually get you in the door.
Want to work with robotics. Learn industrial controls. PLCs programmable logic controllers. They are used a lot when it comes to industrial automation. Add to that the electrical and servo systems. It doesn't hurt to also learn pneumatic and hydraulic systems and controls.
In general when I used to go to job interviews I had a portfolio of my work I could show the employer. I also researched the employer and what the actual job entailed. Thus I could show in what ways my work was relevant to the job I was interested.
