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I really, really like this game and the story. I do worry about whether it'll ever reach 30 days (or longer if that's the dev's plan), but I sincerely hope so. The story is very good, and the renders as well. There's a lot of spelling and grammar, but not so much that it's impossible to bear. My main fear is handling escalating complexity when the dev is not a coder/there is no coder on the team and the game seems very ambitious for this which is a huge red flag for getting abandoned at some point.
But I really hope I'm wrong and sometimes games buck the trend. For the record I would not mind helping with some proofreading if it would help. It's probably all RL leaves me time for ATM though.
But I really hope I'm wrong and sometimes games buck the trend. For the record I would not mind helping with some proofreading if it would help. It's probably all RL leaves me time for ATM though.
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Thank you for this, I will look into the variable definitions as a lot of what you pointed out does help and does make sense.
But when it comes to the 6 different scripts...
If you look in the code originally it was 1 script to handle all routes, all that still exists to keep saves from breaking because the diverged script was created day 4.
doing it that way started to become an issue for me because I would end up with stacks like
if friend, if male, if corruption, if this, if that. etc.
and people who have been playing since the beginning will remember, I missed things.
Female mc turning into male and growing a penis, lol, things like that.
Not saying this way is full proof, or the best way. But other then a miss spelled label, missing the 'music/' part of the music tags.. ffs. and a few him's in female route. this update was smoother then previous updates when it comes to cross sex glitches.
That was the main reason.
And you did point out, its mostly the same.. well yeah. for now.. but It won't be, and that's another reason I separated the scripts.
The female route is taking on a different path entirely in day 5, and the relations will start to pick up more and more differences as well.
so yes, atm, a lot of redundant text,
but removing sex and relation out of the if stacks. has made it easier to work back down the stacks to change things because either way, as this story progress each day would eventually have to start with a stack of ifs to separate out sex and relationship anyways. now I only have to worry about your previous choices and current route with the characters.
so yes, as day 4 may not need 40,000 lines of code, but as the story progress, day 8 for example would need it regardless.
if you have any other thoughts on how to handle what is to become 6 different stories (Same story, Different paths to end), let me know.
and I know some people may wonder, If 6 different stories is the goal, why not start off that way.
well when I started, I was rendering on 4 GTX cards (980, 1070 , 1070 ti, 1080 ti) so it took awhile to render. Now I am on RTX 4090, 2 RTX 3070's and a 3060. so rendering much faster now, so its easier for me to render these differences.
I stated before that my goals for this game were beyond what I could do at the time I started this game, when I started, wasn't sure if their was interest, and thanks to the interest it has received, I am able to upgrade so I can do these things, and will continue to upgrade, and add the things I want for this.
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Forest for the trees type of thing tbh. In the end it doesn't matter if it's one path or a hundred, using the method I described for same-label minor tweaks, separate labels for larger tweaks, and organize those within a logical script stack naming convention solves all (100%) of redundancy. I wouldn't steer you wrong. I mod some of the most complex, multi-route VN's on the planet so I see many different authoring methods. Some are crude, some are pro, most are average as they are still learning from their VN starts but they all realize quickly that duplicating well over half the dialogues is such a waste of your time and efforts. I'm not saying don't do you... you should always do you... just know that there a much better methods to do what it appears you are trying to achieve. As stated before - let the coding language and the CPU do the heavy work.
If you end up with any spare time I could name several VN's that might give you and idea on some more efficient script writing from an authoring point of view... many come to mind but two standouts that are rather complicated behind the scenes are "Karlsson's Gambit" and "Seducing the Devil" for example. I'm not saying the subject matter will or won't be attractive to you, that's not the point at all, my point is they take very complex routing that sometimes share the exact same label with small "tweaks" or split to different labels entirely but they don't duplicate 8-12 bulk dialogues (both have many pathings that evolve around a structure day/week timeline similar to your VN). "Summer Scent" is another that has complex routings (many routes being juggled) with only 2 LIs. It might be a good reference as well.
I'll stop the wall of text, but know I'm not promoting other's work but simply offering references to analyze techniques. Food for thought. With a fine whiskey or glass of wine this evening revisit my prior post (it's only tackling the minor tweaks using the same label method, not the others mentioned in this post) and let it truly sink in. If your project all becomes overwhelming at some point I'll do my best to offer guidance as you wish. Until or if that day ever comes there's already much on your plate so I'll add no more uninvited.
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All the UI coding work is done. I'm coding the dynamic ChoiceGuide for the "Uncle" route currently (I tossed a 6-sided coin and it won). A few teasers of the guide (all results change dynamically dependent on the Player's previous choices, as always). I'm choreographing the dialog box and MiniStat as I go:
ChoiceGuide also dynamically changes to give you instructions
Current SM Options/Cheats screen population
CriticalPath Popup Screen
SanchoGallery (WIP) - Scene filters including protagonist gender
Edit: Added a few more that I had saved screenies of.
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I'll take care of your bad math in SM... as long as you've seen the "code formula" I'll auto-populate it for you. If you haven't seen the "code formula" then it won't auto-populate.
Also, you folks know I write elaborate FreeRoam guides but this particular event obviously is best without one, but while farting around I did you a solid here (you can guess what I did):
I have a problem....i answer to all question about Alexis with corruption route but i can't see the bathroom scene at the bowling.....
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The conversation about her liking you, one path in that conversation leads to romance(alex bedroom scene), the other leads to corruption.(alex bowling bathroom scene.)
here?
I answer the second one, then grab the ass and then look down. At the end of the scene i have corruption 13 with alex but i don't see the scene in bowling bathroom
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You should have "accept - Nicole" or "Accept - Confession", Confession leads down the corruption route.
in one of my round i see a question about it but now i have retry a lot of times to recollect this question but never exit again.....and i restart from beginning the game almost 6 times
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we play very differently.
When playing avns, when I come across a question that looks like it could change story/path. I make a save. every time.