To Developers of Incest Games

[Winterfire]

If you want to oversimplify the Incest definition. The fact that the characters are complete works of fiction that don't exist how is that Insect in the first place. There just CG or Animation. So why are Visa and Mastercards policy's even relevant here

You could argue that they are as much incest as porn actors that fake it.
So yeah, I agree, they are not.

 

[gamersglory]

If you want to go the safe route you can always take a card out of the Japanese H-game playbook and have the Childhood friend and family that live next door route

 

[Winterfire]

Best route: You live with the landlady and a few girls happen to live there as well, sometimes they call you "Oniichan" but you don't question it, the rent is cheap, so much so that it is free so you can get over some weirdness.

 

[slitherhence]

If you want to oversimplify the Incest definition. The fact that the characters are complete works of fiction that don't exist how is that Insect in the first place. There just CG or Animation. So why are Visa and Mastercards policy's even relevant here

It's really unbelievable that people are still necroing this thread in an attempt to derail it with more patreon/paypal/visa/mastercard bashing. Nothing any of those companies have done forces developers to use adoption/step-relations. In fact, afaik, their policies forbid that as well. And the use of adoption/step-relations pre-dates the Patreon policy change... and in fact Patreon itself... by something like 50 years. Meanwhile there are many games in active development here on this very site AND patreon that either use a patch... let you define the relationships during character creation... or use some other mechanism to make their game fit patreons rules without resorting to adopted/step-relations. No matter how many times or in how many different ways people try to make out like the use of adoption/step-relations in incest games is somehow X company's fault... it never will be. It always has been and remains a choice made by content creators... and the point of this thread is to point out that it's, almost without fail, a bad one. I simply want developers to consider more carefully before taking this... the most lazy and least satisfying of all possible options.

 

[gamersglory]

It's really unbelievable that people are still necroing this thread in an attempt to derail it with more patreon/paypal/visa/mastercard bashing. Nothing any of those companies have done forces developers to use adoption/step-relations. In fact, afaik, their policies forbid that as well. And the use of adoption/step-relations pre-dates the Patreon policy change... and in fact Patreon itself... by something like 50 years. Meanwhile there are many games in active development here on this very site AND patreon that either use a patch... let you define the relationships during character creation... or use some other mechanism to make their game fit patreons rules without resorting to adopted/step-relations. No matter how many times or in how many different ways people try to make out like the use of adoption/step-relations in incest games is somehow X company's fault... it never will be. It always has been and remains a choice made by content creators... and the point of this thread is to point out that it's, almost without fail, a bad one. I simply want developers to consider more carefully before taking this... the most lazy and least satisfying of all possible options.

Simply was stating an observation. As for the lazy part spending over 100 hours each month on updates and working a Full-time job is nowhere near lazy. Never have we stuck to the craze we do other games as well. I mean NTR and Cuckold is a Craze and choice developers make. Never got what the big deal was with them. If we were looking to make tons of money we would have done one of those open world RPG's like Milfy City. but we do story and story is are main thing all of which are not-incest and the ones that still are are older titles like IR. If you don't like it you can make your own games.

 

[megaplayboy10k]

As a practical matter, IRL of course people do grow up as adopted children, as foster children, and as children who grow up in "blended" families with step-parents and other step-relations. They even have half-siblings. Presumably some of these folks also have incest fantasies. More to the point, as noted, if there's a real familial relationship demonstrated in-game, then for all practical purposes the "incest" is "valid". One could even have bio-family, adoptive family, foster family and step-families in the same game, though that would be kinda wild. If a character's mom remarries to another woman, that character now has two moms. Etc.

 

[gamersglory]

As a practical matter, IRL of course people do grow up as adopted children, as foster children, and as children who grow up in "blended" families with step-parents and other step-relations. They even have half-siblings. Presumably some of these folks also have incest fantasies. More to the point, as noted, if there's a real familial relationship demonstrated in-game, then for all practical purposes the "incest" is "valid". One could even have bio-family, adoptive family, foster family and step-families in the same game, though that would be kinda wild. If a character's mom remarries to another woman, that character now has two moms. Etc.

This Idea Right here would make a great story dynamic It's very different from other stuff out there. An MC with two families and him trying to figure out his place and dividing time between the two. So many dynamics here. I'm not looking at this from a porn value but a great story is what I like. My aim is always great story first then the other stuff falls into place.

 

[OhWee]

Don't worry. I'll be happy to disappoint you with my lame ass scripting...

Scene: Daughter bursts into the bathroom while Dad is taking a shower...​

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Daughter: "Oh sorry Dad! Wow, I've never seen your cock before. It's so big..."​

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Dad: It's OK sweetie. Nothing to be ashamed about."​

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Daughter (enters shower) "I want you in me"​

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They fuck in the shower, and then retire to Mom and Dad's bedroom for the rest of the evening. Mom walks in on them at some point, and joins in. Son,, having removed his headphones after a long ass gaming session, wonders what all the commotion is, walks in, joins them. The younger daughter gets home from her disappointing date with her lame ass boyfriend, hears all the commotion, joins them. Daughter #3, who is Daughter #2's twin, gets home from her job at the fast food joint, hears all of the commotion, joins them.​

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Bed breaks from all the strain. Everyone falls asleep on the broken bed, entwined and naked. The fucking recommences the next morning. Everyone calls in sick, they fuck all day. ​

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And they live and fuck together happily forever after. The End!​

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[WIRProductions]

This is not a thread to post your gripes about Patreon's rules. I get that their rules suck. I fucking hate their rules too. But that is not what this thread is about. This thread is very specifically about the use of one specific contrivance as a means of establishing incest as part of a game's story as opposed to the many other options available. Patreon's rules have nothing to do with that. Any further attempt to derail this thread to bitch about Patreon's policies will be reported as off topic.

Let's get something out of the way right off the bat. I'm adopted. This is not a dig at being adopted.

That said... if the characters in your game do not share a blood relation... then it's not incest. (ok ok ok, it can be, read the edit below) I don't care what the law says. I don't care if your adopted friend thinks it would still be weird to screw his mom. It's not incest. It's two people who have known each other since one of them was a child having sex with each other... nothing more.

Real talk now: there is one and only one meaningful way in which two people who are blood related is any more taboo than any other two people having sex: alleles. Incestuous sex, over enough generations, leads to birth defects and deformity because of the alleles being paired with identical alleles over and over causing what would otherwise insignificant and unnoticeable abnormalities to become a very noticeable deformities that cripple those burdened by them for life.

Frankly, I'm not actually opposed to incest. (Oh shit!? He actually said it! Oh shit!) Sure, go ahead and freak out. Whatever. I tend to think if two people are consenting and mature enough to understand the risks... have fun. But I'll admit the taboo nature of it is hot as fuck. And that's what games like this are for... living out those taboo fantasies you can't risk in real life.

It instantly stops being hot when I read the words "my step-sis" or "my adopted mom". It just loses all that extra appeal. And then what I'm left with, often enough, is poorly drawn/terribly rendered yet short scenes between mountains of RPG-esque grinding. No thanks. I can get vanilla porn on Pornhub in HD without the extra effort, butter faces, and ridiculous blimp tits (seriously, if you can hide three monkeys and a wallaby under her boobs and her never figure out where the screeching is coming from... they're too fucking big).

So please. Please please please. Next time you get the itch, right after introducing the characters as "my mom" and "my sis" and "my brother", you get the urge to have a scene where the MC finds out he/she is adopted... don't. Just fucking don't. For the love of hotness... don't.

EDIT: I'd like to clarify that It's not really about the adoption. I did a very poor job of being clear on that above. I was fresh off being cock blocked by yet another game pulling this crap on me.

It's about games that don't establish the familial relationship well or at all before diving into the sexual, incestuous one and, at the same time, throw out the blood relationship too. You can make the relationship taboo by establishing the familial ties, the blood ties, or both. When you establish neither, the taboo part seems silly instead of erotic. And that's what I usually see when incest-focused games go the step-sibling/adoption route. The thing is, it's really freaking hard to establish that familial relationship before the incest starts unless the game has something other than incest to carry it in the mean time. Hence why I focus on the step-sibling/adoption contrivance above.

For one of my series, I've used incest more as a plot/world device rather than use it as the taboo nature. No step-stuff, all blood related, but all about the world lore being built up rather than solely the son fucking his mother. I've made sure to not post my incest stories on my Patreon because I don't want to get reported/banned. In reality, it is their rules, and until there is an HBO version of Patreon, it'll be their rules. No one freaks out about the incest in GoT simply cause HBO is independent and can do whatever they please.

While I admit adding the 'step' part to titles ruins the taboo immersion for those who seek it, it would be a fun plot twist if later in a story/porno, the steps were actually not steps after all. I remember reading a story on Reddit of something similar, where a couple decided to do a genetics test and found out they were actually brother/sister. I forget why they did the test, but whether true or not, was an interesting read into coping with real, accidental incest.

 

[gamersglory]

For one of my series, I've used incest more as a plot/world device rather than use it as the taboo nature. No step-stuff, all blood related, but all about the world lore being built up rather than solely the son fucking his mother. I've made sure to not post my incest stories on my Patreon because I don't want to get reported/banned. In reality, it is their rules, and until there is an HBO version of Patreon, it'll be their rules. No one freaks out about the incest in GoT simply cause HBO is independent and can do whatever they please.

While I admit adding the 'step' part to titles ruins the taboo immersion for those who seek it, it would be a fun plot twist if later in a story/porno, the steps were actually not steps after all. I remember reading a story on Reddit of something similar, where a couple decided to do a genetics test and found out they were actually brother/sister. I forget why they did the test, but whether true or not, was an interesting read into coping with real, accidental incest.

We use it mainly as a Plot device as well. I will admit incest fuckfest games are way overused and by that, I mean very thin to no story just click through porn. The purpose of a game is to tell a story. The plot and story should always be first.