RPGM Tower of Trample [v1.18.0.4 + Standalone SC3] [Bo Wei/Koda]

[WT10873]

Good delegation + adding another cook is quite difficult, actually, and the amount of scale I add is often more of the time sink than a particular code hurdle. (Adding sfx/etc. to a scene doesn't take too long, but if I add 10 scenes...)

Some things do take a long time or require me to practically speedrun a coding or design course, such as playable Crow, Theresa's various UI elements, Lily/Swan/Jessica's transition to mostly-code, etc. but that type of stuff can't be delegated as I'm essentially making tools for myself (so they have to fit my exact tastes). On the upside, it increases my overall knowledge and the tools themselves can be reused.

That said, small-scale stuff like our helpful sprite artist, our VO's caster/handler(?) or Sylphs bugfixes/widgets have been efficient delegations, so I do try to take advantage of those opportunities as I can.



Maybe it will relax you to learn that your Machiavellian imagination of us is... inaccurate. We just like making femdom milfs and our Patrons support us to do that. There's no one to play and nothing to milk or string along because we'll get support for 7F, Level: 0, 8F, Lily Island, World of Trample, or whatever else we end up working on as long as the quality is there (frankly, even if it isn't, have you SEEN some Patreons?).

As for finishing 10F by now, we kinda did if you render everything into ToT:
7F - Swan
8F - WG
9F - Tiffany
10F - Theresa
11F - Crow
12F - Jessica

So it's totally fine to be frustrated with my constant flubbed predictions, our development pace or focus or style or anything else. But I think you're giving yourself unnecessary stress with the conspiracy theories on top. We're just bozos, sorry!

"We're just bozos, sorry!" LOLOLOL That's a classic "sorry not sorry" response.
See, you're too smart to be bozos. Your response doesn't relax me at all. Did you read what you just wrote to me?
"There's no one to play and nothing to milk or string along because we'll get support for 7F, Level: 0, 8F, Lily Island, World of Trample, or whatever else we end up working on as long as the quality is there (frankly, even if it isn't, have you SEEN some Patreons?)."

We'll get the support...even if the quality isn't there. Basically, "we do WTF we want" is how I take that. And, truly, that's your right. You have the leverage. I'm not going anywhere. That's what I meant about being played.
You said the 7th floor would be out back in February of 2019. And it's still not out. And I personally don't "render everything into ToT." I don't count the mini-games. I'm not looking for any "technically we're on the 12th floor" explanation. You said February of 2019 and it didn't come out. I feel like you didn't honor a commitment. It sucks, sure...but there's nothing I can do about it. But that's what I mean about being played. It's been 17 months. You basically said, "hey we're going a different direction" AFTER you promised the 7th floor. That's what I mean...

But in fairness, maybe you never saw it as a business promise or business commitment, and if you didn't, that explains my confusion. You called it, "my constant flubbed predictions". I saw it as going back on your word. But that's probably where we see things differently and I respect that.


And it's nothing Machiavellian and no conspiracy theory, it's money. You diverted from the actual 7th floor because...you wanted to and financially you could.

"We just like making femdom milfs and our Patrons support us to do that."

If Apple promised a new iPhone in February but then said, "well we decided we're gonna do something else instead", I trust you can understand that customers would be upset. But, if someone paid them 200 billion dollars to work on another project first, I don't think it's good business ethics but I understand. And yes, I know you're not Apple. I hope you can allow for the inexact comparison.

I wish that instead of Swan, WG, Tiffany, Theresa, Crow and Jessica, you would have made the actual 7th-12th floor so the storyline could actually continue upward and not the side stories/mini games. And my theory on why you didn't was actually just proven through your response. You did WTF you wanted to do and/or what people paid you to do. And I get it. It's business.

And I don't believe your recent work has been as quality and thorough as Karen's room and everything before Her. Notice how I capitalize Her pronoun? I'm a definite femdom submissive LOL.

Listen, I don't appreciate the way you do business, but wtf can I do about it? LOL Not a damn thing.

But I, and anyone else, can kick and scream for the actual 7th floor, but I completely understand this is your show.

The good news is, you made a damn fetish video game where the first parts and middle parts of it were so good that I'm passionate enough about it to write a complaint. That's awesome! LOLOLOLOLOLOL. (This lively discussion has helped distract me from everything going on in the world for a second.) But bottom line, whatever you put out next, like I said earlier, I'm gonna play it, even if it's not as good as it was in the beginning.

And trust, I'm not mad at you and I don't think you're a super villain. I just think you lack business ethics, in my opinion. You're a business man. And I don't like your business practices, that's all. I have no issues with you as a person.

My feelings and opinions I wrote about in my first post today have not changed after your response, but I thank you for taking the time to give a response. And please, let's not do any more back and forth on this issue. There's no need. I promise I'll sit here and eat whatever TF you feed me from here on. There's nothing else I can do.

Take care.

 

[Assblasta9k]

"We're just bozos, sorry!" LOLOLOL That's a classic "sorry not sorry" response.
See, you're too smart to be bozos. Your response doesn't relax me at all. Did you read what you just wrote to me?
"There's no one to play and nothing to milk or string along because we'll get support for 7F, Level: 0, 8F, Lily Island, World of Trample, or whatever else we end up working on as long as the quality is there (frankly, even if it isn't, have you SEEN some Patreons?)."

We'll get the support...even if the quality isn't there. Basically, "we do WTF we want" is how I take that. And, truly, that's your right. You have the leverage. I'm not going anywhere. That's what I meant about being played.
You said the 7th floor would be out back in February of 2019. And it's still not out. And I personally don't "render everything into ToT." I don't count the mini-games. I'm not looking for any "technically we're on the 12th floor" explanation. You said February of 2019 and it didn't come out. I feel like you didn't honor a commitment. It sucks, sure...but there's nothing I can do about it. But that's what I mean about being played. It's been 17 months. You basically said, "hey we're going a different direction" AFTER you promised the 7th floor. That's what I mean...

But in fairness, maybe you never saw it as a business promise or business commitment, and if you didn't, that explains my confusion. You called it, "my constant flubbed predictions". I saw it as going back on your word. But that's probably where we see things differently and I respect that.


And it's nothing Machiavellian and no conspiracy theory, it's money. You diverted from the actual 7th floor because...you wanted to and financially you could.

"We just like making femdom milfs and our Patrons support us to do that."

If Apple promised a new iPhone in February but then said, "well we decided we're gonna do something else instead", I trust you can understand that customers would be upset. But, if someone paid them 200 billion dollars to work on another project first, I don't think it's good business ethics but I understand. And yes, I know you're not Apple. I hope you can allow for the inexact comparison.

I wish that instead of Swan, WG, Tiffany, Theresa, Crow and Jessica, you would have made the actual 7th-12th floor so the storyline could actually continue upward and not the side stories/mini games. And my theory on why you didn't was actually just proven through your response. You did WTF you wanted to do and/or what people paid you to do. And I get it. It's business.

And I don't believe your recent work has been as quality and thorough as Karen's room and everything before Her. Notice how I capitalize Her pronoun? I'm a definite femdom submissive LOL.

Listen, I don't appreciate the way you do business, but wtf can I do about it? LOL Not a damn thing.

But I, and anyone else, can kick and scream for the actual 7th floor, but I completely understand this is your show.

The good news is, you made a damn fetish video game where the first parts and middle parts of it were so good that I'm passionate enough about it to write a complaint. That's awesome! LOLOLOLOLOLOL. (This lively discussion has helped distract me from everything going on in the world for a second.) But bottom line, whatever you put out next, like I said earlier, I'm gonna play it, even if it's not as good as it was in the beginning.

And trust, I'm not mad at you and I don't think you're a super villain. I just think you lack business ethics, in my opinion. You're a business man. And I don't like your business practices, that's all. I have no issues with you as a person.

My feelings and opinions I wrote about in my first post today have not changed after your response, but I thank you for taking the time to give a response. And please, let's not do any more back and forth on this issue. There's no need. I promise I'll sit here and eat whatever TF you feed me from here on. There's nothing else I can do.

Take care.

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Know that If the dev doesn't read your story, I did man and I understand your frustration. Good to know that the community is being honest when needed!
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Does anyone know if ToT works on JoiPlay for android?
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[Amanwholive]

I have never seen a worse developer than Koda, having the same job (well not technically in a game but kinda) i can say that his attitude would not only get him immediately fired but not getting hired in any other business likely.

I truly hope that you are different in your real job man.

 

[Cynic777]

Relax guys, koda money thread is in the past. This game is basically free (because of good people) and if needed, you can always pay for 1 month, download, unsubscribe, and wait for next update. Thats not forbidden. In my opinion 2$ for every big update in their games is a nice price. Porn 15 min videos cost about 15$. But in BoWei games you get at least ~1hr good fap content. Like. Cmon. Pretty cheap price.

 

[Pipo12334]

"We're just bozos, sorry!" LOLOLOL That's a classic "sorry not sorry" response.
See, you're too smart to be bozos. Your response doesn't relax me at all. Did you read what you just wrote to me?
"There's no one to play and nothing to milk or string along because we'll get support for 7F, Level: 0, 8F, Lily Island, World of Trample, or whatever else we end up working on as long as the quality is there (frankly, even if it isn't, have you SEEN some Patreons?)."

We'll get the support...even if the quality isn't there. Basically, "we do WTF we want" is how I take that. And, truly, that's your right. You have the leverage. I'm not going anywhere. That's what I meant about being played.
You said the 7th floor would be out back in February of 2019. And it's still not out. And I personally don't "render everything into ToT." I don't count the mini-games. I'm not looking for any "technically we're on the 12th floor" explanation. You said February of 2019 and it didn't come out. I feel like you didn't honor a commitment. It sucks, sure...but there's nothing I can do about it. But that's what I mean about being played. It's been 17 months. You basically said, "hey we're going a different direction" AFTER you promised the 7th floor. That's what I mean...

But in fairness, maybe you never saw it as a business promise or business commitment, and if you didn't, that explains my confusion. You called it, "my constant flubbed predictions". I saw it as going back on your word. But that's probably where we see things differently and I respect that.


And it's nothing Machiavellian and no conspiracy theory, it's money. You diverted from the actual 7th floor because...you wanted to and financially you could.

"We just like making femdom milfs and our Patrons support us to do that."

If Apple promised a new iPhone in February but then said, "well we decided we're gonna do something else instead", I trust you can understand that customers would be upset. But, if someone paid them 200 billion dollars to work on another project first, I don't think it's good business ethics but I understand. And yes, I know you're not Apple. I hope you can allow for the inexact comparison.

I wish that instead of Swan, WG, Tiffany, Theresa, Crow and Jessica, you would have made the actual 7th-12th floor so the storyline could actually continue upward and not the side stories/mini games. And my theory on why you didn't was actually just proven through your response. You did WTF you wanted to do and/or what people paid you to do. And I get it. It's business.

And I don't believe your recent work has been as quality and thorough as Karen's room and everything before Her. Notice how I capitalize Her pronoun? I'm a definite femdom submissive LOL.

Listen, I don't appreciate the way you do business, but wtf can I do about it? LOL Not a damn thing.

But I, and anyone else, can kick and scream for the actual 7th floor, but I completely understand this is your show.

The good news is, you made a damn fetish video game where the first parts and middle parts of it were so good that I'm passionate enough about it to write a complaint. That's awesome! LOLOLOLOLOLOL. (This lively discussion has helped distract me from everything going on in the world for a second.) But bottom line, whatever you put out next, like I said earlier, I'm gonna play it, even if it's not as good as it was in the beginning.

And trust, I'm not mad at you and I don't think you're a super villain. I just think you lack business ethics, in my opinion. You're a business man. And I don't like your business practices, that's all. I have no issues with you as a person.

My feelings and opinions I wrote about in my first post today have not changed after your response, but I thank you for taking the time to give a response. And please, let's not do any more back and forth on this issue. There's no need. I promise I'll sit here and eat whatever TF you feed me from here on. There's nothing else I can do.

Take care.

wow.... good point. Koda claiming that the side games are 7f 8f 9f etc. is BS how low is he going.

 

[Sylph Phoenix]

I have never seen a worse developer than Koda, having the same job (well not technically in a game but kinda) i can say that his attitude would not only get him immediately fired but not getting hired in any other business likely.

I truly hope that you are different in your real job man.

Yeah I dunno about that, I'm a software engineer and I work with someone worse; one of my colleagues (with nearly 20 years of experience) will reliably lie about testing his code and spent 15 minutes trying to convince me that Java doesn't suffer from type erasure, only Kotlin. You won't be able to catch Koda being wrong about something that you can prove with a 4 word google search, morons get jobs in businesses too

EDIT: And businesses put up with that kind of crap because if the person is hard to replace, like if the sector is very specialized or it's a poor time for hiring, then they figure it's better than no one. Same deal here, if there was a better candidate than Koda, they'd be doing his job. But there isn't, so they aren't.

 

[Amanwholive]

Yeah I dunno about that, I'm a software engineer and I work with someone worse; one of my colleagues (with nearly 20 years of experience) will reliably lie about testing his code and spent 15 minutes trying to convince me that Java doesn't suffer from type erasure, only Kotlin. You won't be able to catch Koda being wrong about something that you can prove with a 4 word google search, morons get jobs in businesses too

EDIT: And businesses put up with that kind of crap because if the person is hard to replace, like if the sector is very specialized or it's a poor time for hiring, then they figure it's better than no one. Same deal here, if there was a better candidate than Koda, they'd be doing his job. But there isn't, so they aren't.

Are you telling me that the reason why Koda dont get fired and they dont hire someone to help is because Koda is the best candidate for this job?...

God help us all.

 

[Sylph Phoenix]

Are you telling me that the reason why Koda dont get fired and they dont hire someone to help is because Koda is the best candidate for this job?...

God help us all.

I mean feel free to offer your services to Bo

 

[Koda-]

But in fairness, maybe you never saw it as a business promise or business commitment, and if you didn't, that explains my confusion. You called it, "my constant flubbed predictions". I saw it as going back on your word. But that's probably where we see things differently and I respect that.

We definitely view lots of things differently. Patreon is not a 1:1 transaction (compared to eg. Steam). People support us to support our development generally. They can stop doing that at any time.

Folks who only care about 7F can always unsub until it releases. People who just want high-quality femdom hopefully stick around. People who like us generally but think I'm too slow are welcome to only sub on release months or whatever interval fits their tastes.

I'd encourage you to view the leeway we have (which you seem suspicious/resentful of) as a means for us to make exceptional femdom games, as that's what we use it for. As others have mentioned, we could make /more/ money with a consistent release schedule (depth/quality be damned) or "sweets" like higher tiers for HQ CGs or scene requests or something. We could probably double our income with one GTS floor.

tl;dr - if our main motivation was $$$, we'd do things differently.

wow.... good point. Koda claiming that the side games are 7f 8f 9f etc. is BS how low is he going.

I'm not claiming that, but the various "they could be on Floor X" and selective ignoring of our releases is nonsense. If folks don't like or care about our side-games, Swan/Crow, etc. that's fine, but we still made them.

 

[badwulf51]

We definitely view lots of things differently. Patreon is not a 1:1 transaction (compared to eg. Steam). People support us to support our development generally. They can stop doing that at any time.

Folks who only care about 7F can always unsub until it releases. People who just want high-quality femdom hopefully stick around. People who like us generally but think I'm too slow are welcome to only sub on release months or whatever interval fits their tastes.

I'd encourage you to view the leeway we have (which you seem suspicious/resentful of) as a means for us to make exceptional femdom games, as that's what we use it for. As others have mentioned, we could make /more/ money with a consistent release schedule (depth/quality be damned) or "sweets" like higher tiers for HQ CGs or scene requests or something. We could probably double our income with one GTS floor.

tl;dr - if our main motivation was $$$, we'd do things differently.



I'm not claiming that, but the various "they could be on Floor X" and selective ignoring of our releases is nonsense. If folks don't like or care about our side-games, Swan/Crow, etc. that's fine, but we still made them.

You're still dodging the bigger questions dude. And I ain't even talking about the fact you still haven't even mentioned that ETA you promised about 10 days ago theres so much more people have been asking for well over a year now and you just dance around it and answer other shit. It ok to admit your a bit lazy, at this point we all know it for a fact so dont be ashamed to swallow your pride and admit it

 

[Koda-]

You're still dodging the bigger questions dude. And I ain't even talking about the fact you still haven't even mentioned that ETA you promised about 10 days ago theres so much more people have been asking for well over a year now and you just dance around it and answer other shit.

If you're asking about Level: 0, I'm not giving another ETA until I'm sure it can be fulfilled, but will provide more granular progress reports in the meantime.

 

[Celice]

I dunno I personally have no issues every update is always quality and I really really enjoy the spin off games because its a new scenario. As great as ToT is the setting of the tower causes creative decisions to be limited.

WG doesnt count Koda cause its not finished smh

but for real it seams like its a vocal minority that aren't happy right now most of us just lurk and play other games while we wait

Which is probably why you get ignored all the time.

I really enjoy Koda coming in here and giving insight onwhats going on and I'd rather not see him leave because every time he posts he's instantly attacked by whens 7th floor.

Personally I'd rather have spring cleaning first

 

[Amanwholive]

I mean feel free to offer your services to Bo

Wow that cliché, if you dont like it do it yourself, so mature haha.
Im tired of this game, to the point im not enjoying playing it anymore only for the infinite delays...
Its just sad how much potential goes to waste just cause nobody in their discord can admit that things are not going well.
Time to unwatch this thread i guess.

 

[WT10873]

We definitely view lots of things differently. Patreon is not a 1:1 transaction (compared to eg. Steam). People support us to support our development generally. They can stop doing that at any time.

Folks who only care about 7F can always unsub until it releases. People who just want high-quality femdom hopefully stick around. People who like us generally but think I'm too slow are welcome to only sub on release months or whatever interval fits their tastes.

I'd encourage you to view the leeway we have (which you seem suspicious/resentful of) as a means for us to make exceptional femdom games, as that's what we use it for. As others have mentioned, we could make /more/ money with a consistent release schedule (depth/quality be damned) or "sweets" like higher tiers for HQ CGs or scene requests or something. We could probably double our income with one GTS floor.

tl;dr - if our main motivation was $$$, we'd do things differently.



I'm not claiming that, but the various "they could be on Floor X" and selective ignoring of our releases is nonsense. If folks don't like or care about our side-games, Swan/Crow, etc. that's fine, but we still made them.

Brother, if my response was too long for you to read, that once again tells me everything I need to know

We definitely view lots of things differently. Patreon is not a 1:1 transaction (compared to eg. Steam). People support us to support our development generally. They can stop doing that at any time.

Folks who only care about 7F can always unsub until it releases. People who just want high-quality femdom hopefully stick around. People who like us generally but think I'm too slow are welcome to only sub on release months or whatever interval fits their tastes.

I'd encourage you to view the leeway we have (which you seem suspicious/resentful of) as a means for us to make exceptional femdom games, as that's what we use it for. As others have mentioned, we could make /more/ money with a consistent release schedule (depth/quality be damned) or "sweets" like higher tiers for HQ CGs or scene requests or something. We could probably double our income with one GTS floor.

tl;dr - if our main motivation was $$$, we'd do things differently.





Whether you read my response or not, there will by no more back and forth for me, Brother. I stand by every word I said and I believe it sincerely. Take care.

 

[Dufoe]

I think it's in your best interest to realize that your hunger for porn can't be sated. It's a free game, a mere drop of entertainment in the ocean of joy that is your life. Yet you manage to find reasons to become frustrated and complain. I don't think the game is the problem here.

 

[WT10873]

I think it's in your best interest to realize that your hunger for porn can't be sated. It's a free game, a mere drop of entertainment in the ocean of joy that is your life. Yet you manage to find reasons to become frustrated and complain. I don't think the game is the problem here.

I said my piece, I'm done, Brother. I've been a part of the community for 2 years, I had an opinion, I shared it. It's over now for me. I do love femdom though! I admit, I'm an addict LOL

 

[robtbo]

Unpopular opinion: I think Koda needs to spend more time on the internet defending his passion about dedicating his time to developing quality femdom games.

 

[WT10873]

Unpopular opinion: I think Koda needs to spend more time on the internet defending his passion about dedicating his time to developing quality femdom games.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! I was super surprised that he responded to my post today. I did NOT see that coming at all. If I were him, I wouldn't respond.

We as fans have the right to share opinions, even if the game is free. NFL football games on Fox, CBS and NBC are free...we can still share our opinion about them; The product, the broadcast, the network. But the networks don't have to get on social media and defend themselves.

 

[Celice]

bro a porn game is not of the level of Fox or CBS they don't even technically have to respond to patreons (would be bad buisness duh)

there's like a line between very much needed criticism and being ungrateful imo

 

[Onyxzz]

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! I was super surprised that he responded to my post today. I did NOT see that coming at all. If I were him, I wouldn't respond.

We as fans have the right to share opinions, even if the game is free. NFL football games on Fox, CBS and NBC are free...we can still share our opinion about them; The product, the broadcast, the network. But the networks don't have to get on social media and defend themselves.

Take a break from the anger, did you play IQ?