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Verisimilinude

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I've given this a lot of thought and I think the real culprit here is length. I can't tell you where the sweet spot is, I'm still trying to figure that out with my own writing, but TA has too many chapters for what was promised in chapter 1: a wife experiencing forbidden sex, getting pregnant and then having to choose between her husband and her lover. It was meant to be a slow burn story so you need a longer runway, but if the series had ended at ch 30 and delivered on the promise in chapter 1, then I think it would have been fine. The added chapters have led to reader fatigue with no real end in sight.
 

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The story degraded with other men fucking Sarah. Every chapter of her fucking other guys is bad. Compare and contrast between one of the best chapters (16) where she pretended to be Lester's gf in front of the nerds and these recent ones. Would anyone be shocked if 16 chapters later, she was getting gangbanged by those nerds?

She's fucked half a dozen guys now (literally: Lester, Jesse, Byron, Vernon, Otis, Black pervert in porn theatre) but we still haven't seen public intimacy between Sarah and Lester. What began as an erotic examination of a couple being corrupted has turned into generic slut/loser cuck slop
 

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I don't see the story failing at all. Sure, it's longer than the Bible, but if this is a failed story, let me fail. People support it on Patreon, and a zealous fan base eagerly awaits each new chapter every month, even if they claim to hate it. If no chapter is released, they demand one. So, yeah, let me fail like that.
 

Verisimilinude

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The story degraded with other men fucking Sarah. Every chapter of her fucking other guys is bad. Compare and contrast between one of the best chapters (16) where she pretended to be Lester's gf in front of the nerds and these recent ones. Would anyone be shocked if 16 chapters later, she was getting gangbanged by those nerds?

She's fucked half a dozen guys now (literally: Lester, Jesse, Byron, Vernon, Otis, Black pervert in porn theatre) but we still haven't seen public intimacy between Sarah and Lester. What began as an erotic examination of a couple being corrupted has turned into generic slut/loser cuck slop
Adam, can you honestly say you would prefer 15+ chapters of just Sarah and Lester having sex? At some point there's only so many ways you can describe things, so many new locations to have sex. You have to have some variety or you get bored as a reader. I understand you don't care for it, but the other men are narrative tools to show Lester's control over Sarah, they are also lessons for Sarah to understand the rules that Lester will allow her to play within---unlike Dan. Even Vernon/Otis were narrative tools to show that Lester isn't infallible in his schemes.

The one anomaly that I will agree with you on is the theatre scene. It should have been just Lester and Sarah having sex and all the men watching and getting off to her behavior. This would have fed Sarah's exhibition thrill without making her into a bimbo cock-hound. One thing to consider is we have no idea what the drug that Lester gave her does. Was it meant to just knock her out so he could clone her phone or was it an aphrodisiac that ramped up her libido?

Edit: I will agree the story hasn't delivered what we as readers were promised. And that too much emphasis has been placed on side plots that should have been short one or two page adventures. It was suppose to be about the 3 MC's and how they are dealt with their own desires and the consequences of said desires. With the ultimate betrayal of Dan by Sarah letting Lester breed her.
 
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In my opinion, the story is going in the right direction, that DS promised to take Sarah to Lester in Chicago. Because being at home will be impossible because in the eyes of society she is a complete whore who preferred a man lower in social status. If it were the director of the hospital or a doctor, everyone would turn a blind eye to this.
Again, Lester will act as her savior who will also be released from the hospital in solidarity and take her with him from shame.
Ideally, she would be removed from raising children with supervised visitation, I think Lester can arrange it.
I hope this will destroy her morally and completely give her under Lester's control. Sarah is already a whore with no possibility of returning to a normal life, she doesn't understand this yet, and the next road is pregnancy from Lester, then the street, drugs, dens, this is what happens in real life. She already don’t cares about children, and Dan is an empty place for her, which she constantly makes clear in the last chapters. But this is only a novel and DS can twist this into fiction, which has already happened more than once, that is, return her pregnant to Dan and fuck everything in a row for the rest of her life.
As the practice of real life shows, a whore of Sarah's level in principle cannot have feelings such as love, affection, respect for the feelings of a partner. Such a person is like an alcoholic who cannot love anyone except alcohol. All words are always a lie no matter what she says, Lester understood this and will now only use her as a street whore and this is the only correct solution for the truthfulness of this story. Everything else is fiction.
English not my native’s language than sorry. All questions to goggle translate :)
 

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Adam, can you honestly say you would prefer 15+ chapters of just Sarah and Lester having sex? At some point there's only so many ways you can describe things, so many new locations to have sex. You have to have some variety or you get bored as a reader. I understand you don't care for it, but the other men are narrative tools to show Lester's control over Sarah, they are also lessons for Sarah to understand the rules that Lester will allow her to play within---unlike Dan. Even Vernon/Otis were narrative tools to show that Lester isn't infallible in his schemes.

The one anomaly that I will agree with you on is the theatre scene. It should have been just Lester and Sarah having sex and all the men watching and getting off to her behavior. This would have fed Sarah's exhibition thrill without making her into a bimbo cock-hound. One thing to consider is we have no idea what the drug that Lester gave her does. Was it meant to just knock her out so he could clone her phone or was it an aphrodisiac that ramped up her libido?

Edit: I will agree the story hasn't delivered what we as readers were promised. And that too much emphasis has been placed on side plots that should have been short one or two page adventures. It was suppose to be about the 3 MC's and how they are dealt with their own desires and the consequences of said desires. With the ultimate betrayal of Dan by Sarah letting Lester breed her.
You can have 1 other guy. Or bring Lizzie back. I just hate the transformation from married women to slut who fucks anything and everything. There's nothing special about the sex if she's fucking every guy in the story.
 

swewx

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You can have 1 other guy. Or bring Lizzie back. I just hate the transformation from married women to slut who fucks anything and everything. There's nothing special about the sex if she's fucking every guy in the story.
That's not what DS cheerleaders say about it on his free channels.
Everytime a newcomer says something remotelly different from their common opinion, someone quickly puts him/her on his/her "place".
If you're not paying, you have no saying.
If you're paying, why are you complainning?
lol
 

swewx

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Adam, can you honestly say you would prefer 15+ chapters of just Sarah and Lester having sex? At some point there's only so many ways you can describe things, so many new locations to have sex. You have to have some variety or you get bored as a reader. I understand you don't care for it, but the other men are narrative tools to show Lester's control over Sarah, they are also lessons for Sarah to understand the rules that Lester will allow her to play within---unlike Dan. Even Vernon/Otis were narrative tools to show that Lester isn't infallible in his schemes.

The one anomaly that I will agree with you on is the theatre scene. It should have been just Lester and Sarah having sex and all the men watching and getting off to her behavior. This would have fed Sarah's exhibition thrill without making her into a bimbo cock-hound. One thing to consider is we have no idea what the drug that Lester gave her does. Was it meant to just knock her out so he could clone her phone or was it an aphrodisiac that ramped up her libido?

Edit: I will agree the story hasn't delivered what we as readers were promised. And that too much emphasis has been placed on side plots that should have been short one or two page adventures. It was suppose to be about the 3 MC's and how they are dealt with their own desires and the consequences of said desires. With the ultimate betrayal of Dan by Sarah letting Lester breed her.
I agree and disagree with you.

You see things that I don't see in this story.

Probably because I had an expectation for a certain type of story that is not easy to find.

DS has its audience and that's fine.

But there is a problem in paying for something you can't control, because it's not a commissioned work. That way, you are forced to share the creator with others who don't necessarily have the same tastes.

One thing I don't understand is people's aversion to including children in the story (I don't like it either), but not to fully involve themselves in a non-consensual/planned pregnancy with its obvious outcome: end of marriage, divorce, a father not committed to the child...

And, yes. I would prefer 15 chapters with less bullshit. But that is my taste. As I said I cannot control what other people want and I can live with that.
 
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Verisimilinude

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I agree and disagree with you.

You see things that I don't see in this story.

Probably because I had an expectation for a certain type of story that is not easy to find.

DS has its audience and that's fine.

But there is a problem in paying for something you can't control, because it's not a commissioned work. That way, you are forced to share the creator with others who don't necessarily have the same tastes.

One thing I don't understand is people's aversion to including children in the story (I don't like it either), but not to fully involve themselves in a non-consensual/planned pregnancy with its obvious outcome: end of marriage, divorce, a father not committed to the child...

And, yes. I would prefer 15 chapters with less bullshit. But that is my taste. As I said I cannot control what other people want and I can live with that.
You've piqued my curiosity, what things do I see that you don't? No judgement, I found your statement interesting. I, like most I would assume, stumbled upon TA as erotica. However having discussions on this forum and also developing a desire to write, I now find myself looking at TA from an author's point of view and less as entertainment, if you will.

It's a fine edged blade isn't it; as a writer DS should write the story that he wants to tell. As a consumer the reader should read what they want to consume. Patreon and serialization of narrative fiction changed the dynamic. As you say: You can't please everyone, all of the time.
 

Verisimilinude

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You can have 1 other guy. Or bring Lizzie back. I just hate the transformation from married women to slut who fucks anything and everything. There's nothing special about the sex if she's fucking every guy in the story.
I agree with you in principle as a reader that Sarah's corruption no longer feels unique or special (as you put it). The story starts off as a couple doing something kinky and then the Sarah starts enjoying it more on her own and Lester, being the opportunist and schemer, uses that to his advantage to corrupt her. The problem from an entertainment standpoint is that the series should have concluded shortly after chapter 14, with some editing for it to have paid off for the reader's time and effort.

My comment's about the other men are how I view the story as a writer. I may not always like DS choices as a writer, but I understand, or think I do, why he's placed them in the story and their narrative purpose.

Depending on what you like, I'd suggest this story. I think it fits the model you are looking for in TA. It has other participants but I think it's done in a plausible way (I say plausible bc the premise is a bit out there). The writer, imo, does a good job of developing the character's motivations and the writing is good (though later in the series, the overuse of adjectives and adverbs could have been reined in for my taste).

 

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Cumbunny ch 8 and The Bet ch 11 are on RabbleLaid's patreon channel.
These two stories are far better than what Toxic Attraction has become.
Cumbunny 8:
The Bet 11:
The Bet 12:
 

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The only way DS can save TA is he coming now and saying he was kidnapped and held h0stage in a cave in the last months, and anything released since ch.16 was by his arch enemy who wanted to destroy his work. So, the last 15 chapters doesnt exist and we will continue to ch.17.
 

swewx

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The only way DS can save TA is he coming now and saying he was kidnapped and held h0stage in a cave in the last months, and anything released since ch.16 was by his arch enemy who wanted to destroy his work. So, the last 15 chapters doesnt exist and we will continue to ch.17.
you're funny!
 

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I know this is mainly a TA forum but I read THE BET from rabblelaid and it was going pretty well until he started writing the husband to be a wimp...OMG why do they always have to write the MC as a pussy most of the time...I'm really hoping that's not the case with NEWLYWEDS...
 

Verisimilinude

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I know this is mainly a TA forum but I read THE BET from rabblelaid and it was going pretty well until he started writing the husband to be a wimp...OMG why do they always have to write the MC as a pussy most of the time...I'm really hoping that's not the case with NEWLYWEDS...
I don't follow...Clair is the MC in The Bet, her husband is at best a side character. Even she treats him as a submissive pet, before Zane ever entered the picture.
 
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TA can be great again if the author wants it to be .

Cut to the chase by making Dan and Sarah have a huge no holds barred fight . Sarah is holding herself for far too long .

We are 31 chapters deep and their fight is long time coming

This fight and the resulting silence between them will lead to true fall of Sarah
 

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I don't follow...Clair is the MC in The Bet, her husband is at best a side character. Even she treats him as a submissive pet, before Zane ever entered the picture.
Agree with you. Even then, it is better than TA at this point. At least there is an anticipation and expectation unlike TA at this point of time. Speaks volumes about how far derailed TA has become.
 

Verisimilinude

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Understood....what I should have said was why do writers always write the husband's weak..
It's a great question. One I struggle with as a writer, but I'll give you my perspective.

I think a majority of it boils down to plot, premise and plausibility. If the marriage is perfect and the husband has no flaws then why is she stepping out, she really wouldn't have a reason or desire to. Let's say the above is true and that the woman just likes having sex with other men. If the husband is unaware, there's no drama, no conflict. If he is aware and isn't submissive or weak than he's going to put a stop to it and/or leave her. Again no drama, no tension and a very short story. If he's aware and is okay with it, it's swinging or sharing (imo), not cuckolding. The one example where it was done brilliantly was Avid and the Neighborhood Chronicles, many have tried but none have been able to capture the magic that Avid had with that series. Ant77's My Neighbor is a distant second, but a good attempt at Avid's magic.