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[Verisimilinude]

I like one bully, one victim, and one betrayal. My problem with this story is that, first of all, he leaves nothing for later, no suspense or surprise or shock. Wait to expose the betrayals until the end, besides the wife's as she is the story. Having everyone in the story loving the bully and incredibly apathetic to the husband is not the best way to present a story.

Also, my issue with it is that as we go on, we discover that the husband actually has no-one. Everyone has turned on him, even the other husbands, because they, apparently love being cucks. He has no support at all and thats not betrayal, that's torture and to uncomfortable for me to read. Even one person would be someone, so that he is not the only moon circling Neptune.

Leah, would have been better portrayed, taking it that everything you are saying about her is true, with her meeting with the husband, even though he is incredibly stupid to hand anyone blackmail evidence, period. If the one meeting had been it and the betrayal had been exposed by her standing with everyone else who hates him, and said I hate you too, I've been helping to fuck you over. And it would be hard to convince me that any of them have anything less than hate and/or derision and/or contempt with regard to him. You don't do this much damage to someone with a laugh in your heart and well-meaning kindness.

Leah thinks to herself that he will either be a cuck or a divorced man by the end of the whole thing and neither thing really bothered her too much. Personally, I would love to see this ending, as I am so tired of these stories that stack up everything against the husband and he absolutely no hope at all as the rest of the world wants his failure in life:

They are all on Zack's office, the wife sucks Zack's cock in front of her husband, while telling him that he will never touch another pussy in his life because she is only fucking this guy from now on and she won't allow a divorce. Zack tells her that he will pay for a lawyer to stop the husband from leaving her as every good wife deserves to have a cuck in her life. The people in the husbands life stand around, laughing at him, telling him that Zack is so much a better man than her is. The husband reaches into his jacket pocket pulls out a pistol, sticks it in his mouth and pulls the trigger, forever warping the psyches of everyone who everyone who ever crossed him, with regards to this episode, in his life. Now they have that scene to forever have burnt into their heads.

I know that is pretty awful, I just cannot state how fervently I am against stories that just don't fuck over the husband, but do it so completely that there is no safety net for him, not even someone to cry in a beer with, they all just did six months of work with the guy with the big dick to devastatingly fuck over the world of someone who did nothing to hurt any of them.

Normally, I like these stories but there are some that push it too far and make it uncomfortable to read. Hell, I am even glad Dan in TA may have someone on DC for him, someone to support him, every person needs at least one person for that, who likes the person well enough that they would never be a part of that kind of thing.

Big picture I see your points and they are valid. I think it's one thing if the husband wants that lifestyle, but it is odd how much of trend "cucking with humiliation" has become. I makes me wonder if it's art imitating life, or more likely art imitating other art in a vicious cycle.

I was simply responding to the concept of Leah doing exactly what her character motivations called for. She was written with the pysche of someone who would treat the husband that way (she was willing to do it to her own husband so why not someone else's) and so her behavior rings true to me (mind you I'm not saying it's morally right, just feels believable). I give Rabble credit for writing the "cucking" scene in a new way (at least I've never seen it portrayed this way before), usually it's the wife who does the "cucking" so to see it happen via another woman was different.

 

[poodles]

is there a VN for Toxic Attraction by any chance?

 

[Verisimilinude]

your a writer so you know hard it maybe gets sometimes to get stuff out on time...

You are correct it's a difficult challenge to write at the pace of the reader's voracious appetite but that doesn't mean I personally would relinquish control to another person. I guess it's possible, but it's been my experience that people don't read a story due to the premise only, they read it because they like how the author writes the story. I think we can all agree that DS writes some of the best sex scenes in erotica, but I wouldn't read a story written by someone else just because DS was writing all of the sex scenes.

 

[DarkStutzel]

I like one bully, one victim, and one betrayal. My problem with this story is that, first of all, he leaves nothing for later, no suspense or surprise or shock. Wait to expose the betrayals until the end, besides the wife's as she is the story. Having everyone in the story loving the bully and incredibly apathetic to the husband is not the best way to present a story.

Also, my issue with it is that as we go on, we discover that the husband actually has no-one. Everyone has turned on him, even the other husbands, because they, apparently love being cucks. He has no support at all and thats not betrayal, that's torture and to uncomfortable for me to read. Even one person would be someone, so that he is not the only moon circling Neptune.

Leah, would have been better portrayed, taking it that everything you are saying about her is true, with her meeting with the husband, even though he is incredibly stupid to hand anyone blackmail evidence, period. If the one meeting had been it and the betrayal had been exposed by her standing with everyone else who hates him, and said I hate you too, I've been helping to fuck you over. And it would be hard to convince me that any of them have anything less than hate and/or derision and/or contempt with regard to him. You don't do this much damage to someone with a laugh in your heart and well-meaning kindness.

Leah thinks to herself that he will either be a cuck or a divorced man by the end of the whole thing and neither thing really bothered her too much. Personally, I would love to see this ending, as I am so tired of these stories that stack up everything against the husband and he absolutely no hope at all as the rest of the world wants his failure in life:

They are all on Zack's office, the wife sucks Zack's cock in front of her husband, while telling him that he will never touch another pussy in his life because she is only fucking this guy from now on and she won't allow a divorce. Zack tells her that he will pay for a lawyer to stop the husband from leaving her as every good wife deserves to have a cuck in her life. The people in the husbands life stand around, laughing at him, telling him that Zack is so much a better man than her is. The husband reaches into his jacket pocket pulls out a pistol, sticks it in his mouth and pulls the trigger, forever warping the psyches of everyone who everyone who ever crossed him, with regards to this episode, in his life. Now they have that scene to forever have burnt into their heads.

I know that is pretty awful, I just cannot state how fervently I am against stories that just don't fuck over the husband, but do it so completely that there is no safety net for him, not even someone to cry in a beer with, they all just did six months of work with the guy with the big dick to devastatingly fuck over the world of someone who did nothing to hurt any of them.

Normally, I like these stories but there are some that push it too far and make it uncomfortable to read. Hell, I am even glad Dan in TA may have someone on DC for him, someone to support him, every person needs at least one person for that, who likes the person well enough that they would never be a part of that kind of thing.

That's why I'm enjoying the story (The Black Belt Affair by Eddie Wilder). Ashley is a beautiful slut, she deceives her husband. Jacob, even though he's a nerd (he has his manly attitude), doesn't give the impression that he wants to see his wife having sex with someone else. Even more so, it's a heavy humiliation. Dan and Sarah still have children, which is something that weighs on the relationship. Now, a childless man, where the wife has no apathy, no partner, gets complicated. Vivian White is standing out for this in her story (the consequences of a cuckold), which is why the math doesn't add up, especially when the husband is completely cut off. Sex is something very intimate, and of course the couple will break up, whether the husband is cheating or the wife is cheating. This big dick thing is also easy for all the women in the stories; it doesn't bother them at all, and their uteruses don't feel hurt. It would be cool if they fucked the big guy, but deny the husband because she is sore, the cervix is uncomfortable, so cut the husband.

 

[SlyFox6333]

For me, the sex with Richard and Sarah was not complex enough. First, I like it when Sarah has sex with others and not exclusively Lester. We've now read Lester and Sarah having sex how many times??? So I was glad that Sarah decided to whore herself out to Richard, but I was hoping for more than "slam bam, thank you ma'am." After Richard got the No Tell Motel key, I would have liked seeing him texting other males to come to the room. Perhaps the CFO of the hospital (who we never read about, but just as an example). So Richard would take Sarah first, but then others would start appearing at the motel. Richard would just tell Sarah it was part of the interview process. How far would she play along? And would Lester be one of the members he texted? That would have added some interest to the plot. Another scenario would have been Richard telling Sarah to come to his house that evening and they would discuss her situation. Again, he could have invited his buddies and they could all use Sarah. I guess I am saying, I would have liked Sarah to get gang banged with her consent, but kind of tricked into doing it. It would take us back to Chapter 7 where Sarah is tricked into having sex with Lester, thinking the texts were from Dan, not Jesse. I do believe that part of the plot was one of the events that really sparked interest in this story.

 

[SlyFox6333]

One thing we learned in Chapter 33 was that Lester had not switched the birth control pills yet. I thought I missed it or that the reader was possibly expected to assume he had done it already. I understand that with delaying the switch, it at least allows Sarah to continue to have sex with others without getting pregnant; however, I think it would have been more intriguing to wonder who the father was if Lester would have switched them out earlier.

 

[john_doe6711]

You are correct it's a difficult challenge to write at the pace of the reader's voracious appetite but that doesn't mean I personally would relinquish control to another person. I guess it's possible, but it's been my experience that people don't read a story due to the premise only, they read it because they like how the author writes the story. I think we can all agree that DS writes some of the best sex scenes in erotica, but I wouldn't read a story written by someone else just because DS was writing all of the sex scenes.

Understood...but if you read the now titled undercover story(double cross)I think it's called now and read the sex scene at the club..that screams DS..then compare it to ch 33...tell me what you think..it isn't written the same in my opinion..

 

[john_doe6711]

I like one bully, one victim, and one betrayal. My problem with this story is that, first of all, he leaves nothing for later, no suspense or surprise or shock. Wait to expose the betrayals until the end, besides the wife's as she is the story. Having everyone in the story loving the bully and incredibly apathetic to the husband is not the best way to present a story.

Also, my issue with it is that as we go on, we discover that the husband actually has no-one. Everyone has turned on him, even the other husbands, because they, apparently love being cucks. He has no support at all and thats not betrayal, that's torture and to uncomfortable for me to read. Even one person would be someone, so that he is not the only moon circling Neptune.

Leah, would have been better portrayed, taking it that everything you are saying about her is true, with her meeting with the husband, even though he is incredibly stupid to hand anyone blackmail evidence, period. If the one meeting had been it and the betrayal had been exposed by her standing with everyone else who hates him, and said I hate you too, I've been helping to fuck you over. And it would be hard to convince me that any of them have anything less than hate and/or derision and/or contempt with regard to him. You don't do this much damage to someone with a laugh in your heart and well-meaning kindness.

Leah thinks to herself that he will either be a cuck or a divorced man by the end of the whole thing and neither thing really bothered her too much. Personally, I would love to see this ending, as I am so tired of these stories that stack up everything against the husband and he absolutely no hope at all as the rest of the world wants his failure in life:

They are all on Zack's office, the wife sucks Zack's cock in front of her husband, while telling him that he will never touch another pussy in his life because she is only fucking this guy from now on and she won't allow a divorce. Zack tells her that he will pay for a lawyer to stop the husband from leaving her as every good wife deserves to have a cuck in her life. The people in the husbands life stand around, laughing at him, telling him that Zack is so much a better man than her is. The husband reaches into his jacket pocket pulls out a pistol, sticks it in his mouth and pulls the trigger, forever warping the psyches of everyone who everyone who ever crossed him, with regards to this episode, in his life. Now they have that scene to forever have burnt into their heads.

I know that is pretty awful, I just cannot state how fervently I am against stories that just don't fuck over the husband, but do it so completely that there is no safety net for him, not even someone to cry in a beer with, they all just did six months of work with the guy with the big dick to devastatingly fuck over the world of someone who did nothing to hurt any of them.

Normally, I like these stories but there are some that push it too far and make it uncomfortable to read. Hell, I am even glad Dan in TA may have someone on DC for him, someone to support him, every person needs at least one person for that, who likes the person well enough that they would never be a part of that kind of thing.

Is this the bet that you're talking about...?

 

[Psiber@mauvais]

Is this the bet that you're talking about...?

yes, it just isn't my cup of tea, for these reasons. Not judging it for others, just not my cup, that's all.

 

[Verisimilinude]

Understood...but if you read the now titled undercover story(double cross)I think it's called now and read the sex scene at the club..that screams DS..then compare it to ch 33...tell me what you think..it isn't written the same in my opinion..

No disrespect to any who like it, I just couldn't get into Undercover, I bounced off it about midway thru it. But I don't need to have read it to know what or how DS writes, I've followed TA and Tainted, I know how he writes. I'm not saying anyone is wrong for suggesting that 33 feels off or that someone else wrote it. I'm simply stating I wouldn't give up control of my story like that and I find it hard to believe any other creative would either. Whether it be a painting, creating lyrics, composing music or writing...the reason we do it is we have something to say and the fun part is the writing--it's the editing that is tedious and boring (at least for me).

 

[john_doe6711]

yes, it just isn't my cup of tea, for these reasons. Not judging it for others, just not my cup, that's all.

I like the chase so far...the problem I'm having is the husband is written as a super idiot...guess that's what his fans want..

 

[Psiber@mauvais]

No disrespect to any who like it, I just couldn't get into Undercover, I bounced off it about midway thru it. But I don't need to have read it to know what or how DS writes, I've followed TA and Tainted, I know how he writes. I'm not saying anyone is wrong for suggesting that 33 feels off or that someone else wrote it. I'm simply stating I wouldn't give up control of my story like that and I find it hard to believe any other creative would either. Whether it be a painting, creating lyrics, composing music or writing...the reason we do it is we have something to say and the fun part is the writing--it's the editing that is tedious and boring (at least for me).

You're good. BTW, I wasn't trying to attack you or anything with my response on the Bet. I am more peeved at the crush, in stories, of the husband's heart/soul/psyche and how all those who ever loved him leave him lying in a gutter in his own drool and not even the Salvation Army will help him and I really thought that writer didn't write those, but hey, I never thought I would write a bully story, or a fanfic, so....

 

[Psiber@mauvais]

I like the chase so far...the problem I'm having is the husband is written as a super idiot...guess that's what his fans want..

Maybe some honest support would make him a better character. *nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

 

[Verisimilinude]

You're good. BTW, I wasn't trying to attack you or anything with my response on the Bet. I am more peeved at the crush the husband's heart/soul/psyche and leave him lying in a gutter in his own drool and not even the Salvation Army will help him kind of stories and I really thought that writer didn't write those, but hey, I never thought I would write a bully story, or a fanfic, so....

No harm, no foul. Mutual respect brother. I know that we can disagree on finer points without being disagreeable. Because it's not about ego, it's about discussion.

 

[Verisimilinude]

I am more peeved at the crush the husband's heart/soul/psyche and leave him lying in a gutter in his own drool and not even the Salvation Army will help him kind of stories

I understand your point of view. For me it's not my cup of tea, but based on comments I read on Lit-E and Patreon Feedback there are those individuals who line up to consume it. The beauty of being human: we can all have a kink that works for us.

 

[Psiber@mauvais]

I understand your point of view. For me it's not my cup of tea, but based on comments I read on Lit-E and Patreon Feedback there are those individuals who line up to consume it. The beauty of being human: we can all have a kink that works for us.

At least for now, anyway. Who knows what the future will bring us.

 

[poodles]

I imagine this has been discussed before, but who do y’all visualize as Sarah? Any model/actress in particular?

 

[Katrina666]

Melissa Benoist

 

[Verisimilinude]

Oh, I'm a firm believer this was either a foreclosure notice or a late payment notice for the house. Which allows Lester to either enter another devil's bargain with the couple or Sarah secretly. Assuming it will be the later, which would give Lester two leverage points - fear of losing the house and another blackmail/humiliation of dan opportunity for the secret.

Damn, who would have thought it'd take 8 months for this prediction to mostly come about lol. Guess instead of keeping it secret like I thought, it's out in the open and

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[Verisimilinude]

I imagine this has been discussed before, but who do y’all visualize as Sarah? Any model/actress in particular?

I'd say Kate Hudson, or maybe Elizabeth Banks.