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RPGM WIP [Translation request] 終末のオルターエゴイズム, Shuumatsu no Alter Egoism, Alter Egoism of the Apocalypse [RJ01485652][ONEONE1]

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GorillaMond said:
Hopefully it isn't. They probably work with DLsite to keep AI tagged out. I'm not against AI-generated works, but I just want the developer to be honest

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That image looks pretty AI-like to me. I wonder if they throw the drawings they make through AI for extra polish or final touch ups clearly here it fucked up?

Hands are a pretty clear indicator of AI if not emphasized.

Or maybe they trained their own language model based on their many works and drawings to draw for them now?

*shrugs
 
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The_Thiccness said:
That image looks pretty AI-like to me. I wonder if they throw the drawings they make through AI for extra polish or final touch ups clearly here it fucked up?

Hands are a pretty clear indicator of AI if not emphasized.

Or maybe they trained their own language model based on their many works and drawings to draw for them now?

*shrugs
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Hands are not a good indicator of Ai.
It's been common knowledge among most artists that hands are often the most difficult body part to draw. Usually when drawing body parts you need to empasize certain bones and forms to make the drawing seem realistic, and hands are the most difficult given the finer details and multiple joints structure.

Then Ai came along, and the machine struggled with it too, and badly, and since then it has become a misconception that bad hands - Ai.
It's simply not true.

If you want a good indicator, check the shading, ususally Ai either uses too dull colours, or too shiny.
 
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Picked Up.
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Just to make sure, if we download the game from your upcoming post later on, do we need to download the patch everytime?

While there were others said no need, there were some, including myself don't want to have the same incident as on what happened to your translation on Dragon Blood, in which we need to download the patch due to an oversight made.
 
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Jonathan Y said:
Hands are not a good indicator of Ai.
It's been common knowledge among most artists that hands are often the most difficult body part to draw. Usually when drawing body parts you need to empasize certain bones and forms to make the drawing seem realistic, and hands are the most difficult given the finer details and multiple joints structure.

Then Ai came along, and the machine struggled with it too, and badly, and since then it has become a misconception that bad hands - Ai.
It's simply not true.

If you want a good indicator, check the shading, ususally Ai either uses too dull colours, or too shiny.
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You contradicted yourself there a bit. It's not an indicator of AI then saying AI struggles with hands.

For AI Art its an indicator as we both mentioned.

I never said it was the ONLY indicator but an indicator none the less.

Based on this picture the second hand LOOKS incomplete or AI. Doesn't mean the artist is using AI. Most of my comment was stated as questions. If there was a lot more samples of flaws then there would be more reason to believe it's AI but based on the art in the screenshots other than the one posted in the comments seems pretty legit to me.
 
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Jim2tolive said:
Just to make sure, if we download the game from your upcoming post later on, do we need to download the patch everytime?

While there were others said no need, there were some, including myself don't want to have the same incident as on what happened to your translation on Dragon Blood, in which we need to download the patch due to an oversight made.
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People will be testing before release but I will inevitably make a mistake somewhere. If you want to be on the most updated version you will need to either patch manually or run the GameUpdate.bat. So yes.
 
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The_Thiccness said:
You contradicted yourself there a bit. It's not an indicator of AI then saying AI struggles with hands.

For AI Art its an indicator as we both mentioned.

I never said it was the ONLY indicator but an indicator none the less.

Based on this picture the second hand LOOKS incomplete or AI. Doesn't mean the artist is using AI. Most of my comment was stated as questions. If there was a lot more samples of flaws then there would be more reason to believe it's AI but based on the art in the screenshots other than the one posted in the comments seems pretty legit to me.
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My words : ''it's not a good indicator''. The adjective ''good'' is key, so I implied it isn't good, but still a indicator nonetheless. I did not say it wasn't a indicator.
 
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The_Thiccness said:
You contradicted yourself there a bit. It's not an indicator of AI then saying AI struggles with hands.

For AI Art its an indicator as we both mentioned.

I never said it was the ONLY indicator but an indicator none the less.

Based on this picture the second hand LOOKS incomplete or AI. Doesn't mean the artist is using AI. Most of my comment was stated as questions. If there was a lot more samples of flaws then there would be more reason to believe it's AI but based on the art in the screenshots other than the one posted in the comments seems pretty legit to me.
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It STRUGGLED for a while. Recently it started missing less with hands. So, lately, it isn't a GOOD indicator anymore.
 
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dazedanon said:
People will be testing before release but I will inevitably make a mistake somewhere. If you want to be on the most updated version you will need to either patch manually or run the GameUpdate.bat. So yes.
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Out of curiosity, but if I try to use your tool on 1 game or another, I assume I need a machine with good specs, specially if the game is big, or since it's mostly processing text, not at all?

Also, I assume you also need at least a minor knowledge to avoid miss translations (like names and such), but that would even be cool for me to train my japanese, since I'm currently learning it.

Finally, thanks for the effort in making and providing your tool to everyone, besides translating the games yourself to the community.
 
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