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RPGM [Translation Request] The Mask of Blue and Silver/蒼銀の仮面 [Nuko Majin]

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Most developers submit development reports at least once a month, but some developers, including this one, don't even submit the bare minimum, which is problematic.

This is simply a case of wanton exploitation of sponsorship, as the infamous Mighty Nine did.
All those fags are just doomposting, seems like all of them are new to how jap devs work, nuko is perfectly in time for the average jap dev he's on his second year of development, also working with cobra in another game and as far as I know he's a solo dev
"Most" developers.
Did you even read the post that you replied to?



How many times is this conversion going to resurface in this fucking thread? In Ci-en alone there is already a lot of devs that isn't posting monthly. A lot of them NTR ones as well.
 

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"Most" developers.
Did you even read the post that you replied to?



How many times is this conversion going to resurface in this fucking thread? In Ci-en alone there is already a lot of devs that isn't posting monthly. A lot of them NTR ones as well.
I was wondering why this mostly silent thread suddenly got a bunch of new posts.

We don't care about the 'lazier' ones because they're not getting our money. Thus, none of our business. See the difference?

Most developers submit development reports at least once a month, but some developers, including this one, don't even submit the bare minimum, which is problematic.

This is simply a case of wanton exploitation of sponsorship, as the infamous Mighty Nine did.
The naysayers do have a point in that there are some devs who are active on the forums but put out nothingburger updates. Their supporters do catch on eventually but they'll have gotten a nice chunk of change before then.

However...the argument can be made that compared to the devs who don't engage with the forums and also don't update their projects regularly, they at least put in the effort to maintain the facade. On the other hand, one might say that's actively lying to their fans and are even worse than the 'radio silence' devs.

Bottom line is this: you're not obliged to give any dev your money. If things get to the point of being unacceptable to you, just close your wallet.
 
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I was wondering why this mostly silent thread suddenly got a bunch of new posts.

We don't care about the 'lazier' ones because they're not getting our money. Thus, none of our business. See the difference?
See the difference? If comparison is not on the table then why compare in the first place?
"Other devs do this and do that"
"Well, a lot of other devs actually don't do that"
"We don't care about that because we don't follow them, see the difference?"
You missed the point of the discussion and inserted an argument that points to nothing. See how the "difference" you are trying to point out means nothing to the discussion?

Also "our money" in a pirating forum. "Lazier" is also disingenuous but okay.
 

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In Ci-en alone there is already a lot of devs that isn't posting monthly. A lot of them NTR ones as well.
Was responding to this argument about how there are many other devs (a good part of whom do NTR, according to you) who don't do regular updates. These are the ones not getting our (well, not mine at least) money, and so should not factor into the discussion.

And there was a post last page about how Asian devs don't do regular posts/updates, so was addressing that as well.
 
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Was responding to this argument about how there are many other devs (a good part of whom do NTR, according to you) who don't do regular updates. These are the ones not getting our (well, not mine at least) money, and so should not factor into the discussion.

And there was a post last page about how Asian devs don't do regular posts/updates, so was addressing that as well.
So, you are replying to something that you don't understand the context to then? This was mentioned because this was said.

Most developers submit development reports at least once a month, but some developers, including this one, don't even submit the bare minimum, which is problematic.
By your logic this also should not factor into the discussion and all the "other devs do this" because "these are the ones not getting our money". This is just a flawed thing to say that doesn't add any value to the discussion.
 
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Even Clark Kent needs a day job as a journalist to cover his groceries :KEK:
I though about the crowd funding method like paypal, but the doxxing part do bit scary...
Crypto method like BTC wallet seem viable, but how many people here actually own a Bitcoin wallet?
Don't worry king, I gotchu and the homies this time jebaited.jpg jebaited2.jpg
well... shit, we didnt get anything new this month since these images were also in the img folder since 0.4 with just added background and foreground sekuhara2_00.png sekuhara2_01.png sekuhara2_02.png sekuhara2_03.png
 
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Don't worry king, I gotchu and the homies this time View attachment 5356357 View attachment 5356358
well... shit, we didnt get anything new this month since these images were also in the img folder since 0.4 with just added background and foreground View attachment 5356360 View attachment 5356361 View attachment 5356362 View attachment 5356363
I suggest to only subscribe when you see a numbered post in the supporter section, if you are after playable demos. like "0.7".

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I'm reading here, and they're criticizing the author for being lazy and not posting enough updates.
After that, Takamakuran quietly laughs at you in the corner and continues calmly making the game.
Yes, the author makes very good games, he's on his fourth game, but he rarely posts, maybe once a year. And that's okay.
 

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he never said that he will deliver a build or news every month... a lot of you here just expect that EVERYONE will do the same business model westerns devs spoonfeed you with patreon and seems that dont even know that a LOT of jp devs goes radio silent from time to time or even pull the weird bingo of stress or diseases, just let the man cook he already delivered other games
Motherfucker stop being so obstuse, you compared one of the most active devs on this site and patreon to Nuko and I wont let that fly, you can support Nuko even if he never ever posts again in their lifetime, I, DONT, GIVE, A, SHIT, i already defended that previously;

Even if it were the same exact system, (which it isnt as the guy before me mentions) the developers of Solgante have not made their source code public so Nuko would still have to develop it from scratch or try to adapt whatever library they used to his own needs, which requires time and trials.

I dont know how much programming knowledge Nuko has, to me he strikes me as an artist first and game dev last so chances are he's made such a mess that any further progress requires him to fight his past mistakes at every step. That and probs the guys is lazy af, but honestly who wouldnt be given the chance
But you tried to smear the henteria guy with a ridiculous comparison "cause he's been working on a game since 2021", people are annoyed at the lack of comunication, the game will be released whenever, people just dont want Nuko to banish and abandon the game like so many other devs have done in the past whenever there were long periods of silence.
 

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Don't worry king, I gotchu and the homies this time View attachment 5356357 View attachment 5356358
well... shit, we didnt get anything new this month since these images were also in the img folder since 0.4 with just added background and foreground View attachment 5356360 View attachment 5356361 View attachment 5356362 View attachment 5356363
Dayyum brother, thanks for the love bro (y)
Dont forget to cancel the subs as it auto deduct the balance when new month arrived...
but dont worry if miracle that nuko update again this month you still get to see it.
 

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I suggest to only subscribe when you see a numbered post in the supporter section, if you are after playable demos. like "0.7".

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The problem is the new demo took so long...as you can see, 0.6 trial is Jun update...thats why we want to see is there any new CG everytime he post.

Btw, in case anyone new here missed, i also supported both July and August (Forgot to cancel the Aug subs lol)
July
https://f95zone.to/threads/translat...and-silver-no-nuko-majin.228406/post-17668735
August
https://f95zone.to/threads/translat...and-silver-no-nuko-majin.228406/post-17906229

And unfortunately, Sept = Zero update, so sept supporter cooked :KEK:
 
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The problem is the new demo took so long...as you can see, 0.6 trial is Jun update...thats why we want to see is there any new CG everytime he post.

Btw, in case anyone new here missed, i also supported both July and August (Forgot to cancel the Aug subs lol)
July
https://f95zone.to/threads/translat...and-silver-no-nuko-majin.228406/post-17668735
August
https://f95zone.to/threads/translat...and-silver-no-nuko-majin.228406/post-17906229

And unfortunately, Sept = Zero update, so sept supporter cooked :KEK:
That's why I suggested to only support on demo releases, as I feel like that would be more worth it. Unless otherwise that user WANTS to support this dev through and through.
 

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But you tried to smear the henteria guy with a ridiculous comparison "cause he's been working on a game since 2021", people are annoyed at the lack of comunication, the game will be released whenever, people just dont want Nuko to banish and abandon the game like so many other devs have done in the past whenever there were long periods of silence.
Actually, the argument is pointless, as is the comparison, because we don't know certain things.
Let's take some examples.
1 author - Hijo -
2 author - N_tai - Henteria
3 author - Nuko
Three authors.
The first author – we can see he posts almost every week? Cool? I bet the game will be awesome?
The second author – yes, he releases content every two months, and good stuff at that.
The third one – he's lazy, ugh, so lazy, he doesn't do anything.
Is that really true? Now let's dig deeper for each.
1. Team - I don't know what the 1 author is doing, given the pace of releases. Perhaps they're not working alone, but we don't know.
The 2 author is known to be the one writing the script and making the game, but someone else is paid to create the pixel art for the sex scenes or characters. So, the first author makes the game, and someone else does the art.
The 3 author seems to be working alone, at least that's what it's like.
2. Experience is also an important factor.
The 1 author likely has a lot of experience, given how many games they've released. Perhaps they're more experienced and release faster.
The 2 author seems to know how to create a game, but they're more of a scriptwriter and don't know how to draw. And perhaps if there's a complex moment, like Nuko or others, they won't be able to handle it.
The 3 author also seems to be more skilled at drawing; his drawings are truly vibrant, but they're probably less experienced at creating games, even though they have other completed games, but again, we don't know.
3. Life - yes, authors need to live, they might have a family, how do we know?
1 author - excuse the rudeness, but as I said, we don't know. It's possible he's single, doesn't have a girlfriend, and doesn't work, hence the game's development speed, as he makes a living off of it.
2 author - the author wrote that Patreon supports him; he's essentially been working on the game his whole life, meaning he doesn't have a job. He lives off Patreon. So if everyone stops donating to him, will the game die immediately? Will Part 4 be cancelled?
We don't know about his family.
The 3 author - he's married and has a son. There are some mentions of this on Twitter, but I might be wrong. But based on his Twitter, it seems that way. Ultimately, he's most likely working, as making the game is his hobby, again judging by the post. So, he's a man with a family and a job?
And from this we can draw the following conclusion.
Author 1 writes posts every week because he has nothing but games and lives off donations, doesn't have a job, and probably doesn't even have a girlfriend.
Author 2 also writes posts every week, but then again, he doesn't work and lives off donations.
Author 3 already has a family and works, so does that mean he can't write every week?

This is all my opinion, but the fact is, we know nothing about the author, and it's silly to criticize them or blame them; everyone has their own approach and life. The main thing here is not to overexert yourself or torment yourself, otherwise they'll just abandon the game, and there are quite a few of them.
 

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Don't worry king, I gotchu and the homies this time View attachment 5356357 View attachment 5356358
well... shit, we didnt get anything new this month since these images were also in the img folder since 0.4 with just added background and foreground View attachment 5356360 View attachment 5356361 View attachment 5356362 View attachment 5356363
Gotta say, this new background contrasting so much with the current artstyle is a bit bizarre, I dont mind the AI for the HUD nor the treasures but it's starting to creep into the CGs too..
 
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