Trends in 18+ games that are turn offs: a discussion

pasunna

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The main target audience for most adult games, including those with a female protagonist, is a cis-straight man. This is simply a fact that will probably never change. I suppose even a woman may like some adult games where the main target audience is a man, but games where the main target audience is a woman will always be quite rare.
In fact, it's not that rare
there are massive of yaoi games(boy love aka gay)
and their sale are very high too
mostly the customer is woman not gay
they just like to see only handsome guy fuck each other
like we only just like to see hot girl
so...it's just that we...men never want to look there...
 

GracelessLamb

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I'm pretty basic, when it comes to erotic... And when I explore the section, alot of stuff is some scat, furry, trap, enormous boobs and butts, NTR, mutilation... And I stand here, watching that whole stuff like...

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I get that people have their fetishes, but man... There is no good "regular" material anymore.
That is a mood. One I have had quite a bit when looking for porn. Like I get people have their kinks and fetishes but what about us vanilla folks? We need to get off too.


The main target audience for most adult games, including those with a female protagonist, is a cis-straight man. This is simply a fact that will probably never change. I suppose even a woman may like some adult games where the main target audience is a man, but games where the main target audience is a woman will always be quite rare.
Most female oriented erotica is literature based. We basically write our own porn lol.
In fact, it's not that rare
there are massive of yaoi games(boy love aka gay)
and their sale are very high too
mostly the customer is woman not gay
they just like to see only handsome guy fuck each other
like we only just like to see hot girl
so...it's just that we...men never want to look there...
Damn fujoshis. I never understood the Yaoi thing tbh.

I like hot girls too but I also like hot boys with hot girls as opposed to generic girl with hot boy or generic boy with hot girl.
 
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lawfullame

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have you ever read/watched/played an adult video/game/comic that you found super hot only for it to be ruined by some sort of niche fetish and then your arousal just tanks?
I usually avoid content that I don't like when I see the tags and read the description. So the disappointment is not so big.
Usually, it's like, "The pictures look good. Ah, another incest story. I'll pass."

I mainly avoid gay, futa, trans and incest content. But there is also a lot of other tags that I'm not looking for.
 

Sphere42

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Focusing on games rather than porn in general:

Fighting the PC/avatar: "Game Over rape" games are the poster child. The game's narrative and gameplay are perfectly consistent but they directly oppose the actual goals of the player at least as far as porn is concerned. Virgin runs without a gallery unlock count too. Also any time an option is presented but the PC outright refuses to follow through, with the exception of "corruption" games where it becomes available later and the refusal acts as a hint.

Ludonarrative dissonance (or "inconsistencies between story and gameplay" for normies): A staple of non-pornographic games as well but still applies to sex scenes. If a character loses their virginity early through an optional encounter they can not do so again later in the main story. If the previous scenes allowed a character take an arm to the elbow they should not worry a realistically sized dick might be "too big" for them. If I'm a lvl99 Succubus Archmage I should be able to do something against that noname scripted mugger other than stand still and squeal.

Narrative/gameplay-internal inconsistency: similar to the previous one only sometimes they screw it up even without the second component. Not planning for someone to grind to max level and beat the optional superboss before completing even half of the main plot is understandable, but if a character (usually female...) is introduced as a badass warrior fighting off multiple opponents without the player's input they DEFINITELY shouldn't be freezing and stammering when confronted with a drunk doofus or alley rapist. On the gameplay side most might be due to poor QC but all too often one scene will let you cum unlimited times while another ends after the first orgasm.

Grind: sucks the fun and immersion right out of whatever content you are forced to repeat, even worse if it involves the sex scenes. Add RNG in here too because as far as I'm concerned it's exactly the same only with the extra step of repeatedly reloading a previous save thrown in. Unskippable repeats probably also fit for being meaningless padding although those are a bit of a grey area when it comes to broadcasting mechanics (using OP's example: a "kyaa! *water pour* *water pour*" image popup or short animation would be fine by me but if she stammers about the embarrassment for 30s while rubbing her crotch every single time that would be too much in my opinion)

Faking gameplay: I guess many walking simulators fit here, but I don't just mean being grindy and boring. Basically some "games" would be fine and in many cases even more enjoyable if they had no real gameplay or interactive elements at all yet shoehorn them in. For visual novels this would be illogical trial-and-error choices leading to immediate Game Overs, with RPGM they like to throw in cookie-cutter battles and maps which do not add or even hinder their worldbuilding, old flash games like to stall you on a pixel hunt segment which you beat by holding down Tab.

As far as actual porn content goes it's really subjective and since I don't like most forms of rape/coercion/blackmail, humiliation and general "being shitty" (verbal abuse, cheating, harassment/groping, sleazebags) I'm definitely biased here but in most examples of those I've seen (again keep in mind I don't play high-quality NTR games because I don't like the content) they tend to fall under my previous points as well: rape victims don't even try to fight back even against a scrawny kid that's a head shorter than them, blackmailers don't get punched in the face, some people develop Tourette's the moment they become aroused and their partners don't seem to care or notice, the more raunchy sandbox-y games sometimes let you freeroam with your fling or even have sex right in front of your SO without being "found out" (because it's limited to a scripted scene or an RNG trigger...) and groping usually takes the form of a "point grind" where you suffer no negative consequences and doing it enough actually makes the target like you.
 

GracelessLamb

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Happens all the time. Mostly it looks like this: "Woah! Damn, this is hot as fuck! Let's see the tags! Wait a moment... Traps..? AH COME! ON!"
Traps are just really pretty boys that look like girls right? That sounds like the opposite of a problem to me. But you definitely put my thought process into words.


I usually avoid content that I don't like when I see the tags and read the description. So the disappointment is not so big.
Usually, it's like, "The pictures look good. Ah, another incest story. I'll pass."

I mainly avoid gay, futa, trans and incest content. But there is also a lot of other tags that I'm not looking for.
My dumb ass tends to test it out anyway coz when it comes to h games a lot of it is avoidable if you just don’t lose the battles.


Focusing on games rather than porn in general:

Fighting the PC/avatar: "Game Over rape" games are the poster child. The game's narrative and gameplay are perfectly consistent but they directly oppose the actual goals of the player at least as far as porn is concerned. Virgin runs without a gallery unlock count too. Also any time an option is presented but the PC outright refuses to follow through, with the exception of "corruption" games where it becomes available later and the refusal acts as a hint.

Ludonarrative dissonance (or "inconsistencies between story and gameplay" for normies): A staple of non-pornographic games as well but still applies to sex scenes. If a character loses their virginity early through an optional encounter they can not do so again later in the main story. If the previous scenes allowed a character take an arm to the elbow they should not worry a realistically sized dick might be "too big" for them. If I'm a lvl99 Succubus Archmage I should be able to do something against that noname scripted mugger other than stand still and squeal.

Narrative/gameplay-internal inconsistency: similar to the previous one only sometimes they screw it up even without the second component. Not planning for someone to grind to max level and beat the optional superboss before completing even half of the main plot is understandable, but if a character (usually female...) is introduced as a badass warrior fighting off multiple opponents without the player's input they DEFINITELY shouldn't be freezing and stammering when confronted with a drunk doofus or alley rapist. On the gameplay side most might be due to poor QC but all too often one scene will let you cum unlimited times while another ends after the first orgasm.

Grind: sucks the fun and immersion right out of whatever content you are forced to repeat, even worse if it involves the sex scenes. Add RNG in here too because as far as I'm concerned it's exactly the same only with the extra step of repeatedly reloading a previous save thrown in. Unskippable repeats probably also fit for being meaningless padding although those are a bit of a grey area when it comes to broadcasting mechanics (using OP's example: a "kyaa! *water pour* *water pour*" image popup or short animation would be fine by me but if she stammers about the embarrassment for 30s while rubbing her crotch every single time that would be too much in my opinion)

Faking gameplay: I guess many walking simulators fit here, but I don't just mean being grindy and boring. Basically some "games" would be fine and in many cases even more enjoyable if they had no real gameplay or interactive elements at all yet shoehorn them in. For visual novels this would be illogical trial-and-error choices leading to immediate Game Overs, with RPGM they like to throw in cookie-cutter battles and maps which do not add or even hinder their worldbuilding, old flash games like to stall you on a pixel hunt segment which you beat by holding down Tab.

As far as actual porn content goes it's really subjective and since I don't like most forms of rape/coercion/blackmail, humiliation and general "being shitty" (verbal abuse, cheating, harassment/groping, sleazebags) I'm definitely biased here but in most examples of those I've seen (again keep in mind I don't play high-quality NTR games because I don't like the content) they tend to fall under my previous points as well: rape victims don't even try to fight back even against a scrawny kid that's a head shorter than them, blackmailers don't get punched in the face, some people develop Tourette's the moment they become aroused and their partners don't seem to care or notice, the more raunchy sandbox-y games sometimes let you freeroam with your fling or even have sex right in front of your SO without being "found out" (because it's limited to a scripted scene or an RNG trigger...) and groping usually takes the form of a "point grind" where you suffer no negative consequences and doing it enough actually makes the target like you.
All of this, except I do play some NTR games because the art/concept was too interesting to pass up. NTR does nothing for me except question the sanity of everyone involved.

Oh, and impregnation does nothing for me for obvious reasons. In fact I actively try and avoid it if it’s a “feature”. Sadly only a couple games with this feature had a contraceptive item that the mc could buy to avoid that shit.
 

khumak

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My most common one is cartoonishly out of proportion body types. Characters with tits the size of basketballs and guys with horse dicks the size of baseball bats just don't do it for me.

Proportions don't have to be just the right size for me to be into it but if it's outside the realm of plausibility I find it a turnoff. If it's a comic book type art style I find that I can overlook it but if the art style is trying to achieve more of a photorealism look then I'm not interested. A LOT of the most popular games on this site get a pass from me for that reason or there's maybe 1 or 2 characters in there with more reasonable physiques and I just skip past every scene that doesn't involve those characters.

Yes to supermodels/bodybuilders/insert other body type that actually exists in the real world. No to freaks of nature for me.
 

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Oh, and impregnation does nothing for me for obvious reasons. In fact I actively try and avoid it if it’s a “feature”. Sadly only a couple games with this feature had a contraceptive item that the mc could buy to avoid that shit.
And when a game does have impregnation, it's always going to be heavily fetishized.
 

Fliptoynk

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Well... We can't stop the devs to include awkward fetishes cuz they need as many playerbase as possible though I wish whatever those tags that turn others off, make them avoidable. And I wish there's an option that could adjust the boob size cus some vns (like J hentais) really took it to extreme I lost my interest in them... but that's just me.
 

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Anything like bestiality, aliens fucking humans, etc. Anal is even so so for me, depends on the scene and how it's done. ATM is a definite way to get me to close the game.
 

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Female domination, sisification, gore, urination, legal slavery*, etc.

I am very much into male domination and anything that makes a man submissive is a big no.
Sisificationm, gore and urination is just disguesting(no offenses to those like like that kind of stuff).


*I dislike legal slavery because it remove the feeling of victory if i can just legaly buy slave's.
Enslaving woman is fun when it is illigal because of the risk of getting caught, the thrill of the hunt and the breaking of there will.
Making them mine is very fun.
By making slavery legal they just remove the fun of conquest for me.
 
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Rudzi

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Fellow Perverts of f95zone.

A turn-off is simply a kink that you did not get into yet.
Just be patient.
 
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HarveyD

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Most people are just pointing out the fetishes that turn them off, that doesn't mean they're trends. And 90% of the time there will be a tag so you can avoid it anyway.

Actual trends, that actually turn me off?

Retard male MCs and characters doing things that no sane person would do, even if it's to advance the porn game logic plot.

Stick whatever weird fetish in there you want (that's probably why I'm playing your game anyway) but at least make characters that act like human beings. (Yes there are games where they aren't human. You know what I meant!)
 

Sphere42

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at least make characters that act like human beings
That's a bit too strict, I doubt RL humans would ever live as milk cows and most are repulsed by the idea of sleeping with their mother or sister even if she were to initiate. But the world should be internally consistent and actually follow through with whatever deviations from reality are necessary to make the premise work.
 

SpikeZg

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I hate incest games, hate them so fucking much...
MCs who look like ducks
MCs that have thin rocket dicks

That's it :)
 

esxay

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I think my ban list it's petite/small breasts main characters, last Clymenia and Acerola games are not totally turning on
male protagonists (especially with futa/femdom content) (big discussion needed for that: because i like Space Paws/Sarada training/Injustice unlimited, even respect for male characters but most of them i dont even check, because it's better to control female) and also college boys who supposed to fuck every milf (Dreams of Desire, ICSTOR)
monster girls (for reverse rape/femdom (and who damnly fap on these lizards?)
Ryona(hitting females)/Guro (but all of ankoku marimokan is still ok and very respected for strong bdsm/anal)
and Yaoi/Gay , of course.
 
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